PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[foggy1974]

The most annoying thing in all this bullshit is how one sided it's been reported in the media. They have convinced almost every football fan that we cheated for 10 years.
Cannot wait till this is over because there's going to be a hell of a lot of disappointment for these rival fans up and down the country.

Thats what happens when you smash the cosy arrangement the media had with the cartel clubs

 

[foggy1974]

Is that Luke?

 

[foggy1974]

Interesting that they stridently posit that if City are cleared (other) clubs will question the sporting integrity of the competition, rather than whether the competition’s administrative body is fit for purpose, which would surely be the correct issue to identify in those circumstances.

What the fuck have the charges got to do with sporting integrity anyway? None of the charges relate to anything that occurred on a football pitch.

And why is it always how catastrophic it will be for City if the charges are proven, but never catastrophic for the PL if they are substantively dismissed?

Its strange how it's never mentioned the sporting advantage the rags have when they are a billion in debt but can spend 200m each summer

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

The pl are fucked in this either way.

When we win they will be asked why they went all this way with a flimsy case in an attempt to destroy one of their founder members at the cost of tens of millions pounds at the behest of other clubs and will ultimately to be shown as not fit for purpose.

If in the unlikely event we lose the question must be asked that the pl accepted both ours and chelseas accounts over a number of years as factual when they were not to that end every single other club must therefore require the same level of scrutiny given to city as the pls checks werent fit for purpose and if that isnt given then its quite simply discrimination.

Either way they have completely fucked themselves in the most stupid way possible.

But unfortunately, as of yet, the people responsible for bringing the charges be it Masters or others unidentified, remain in post.

In the event of City being cleared of the charges, the very substantial costs to the member clubs should dictate that heads should roll at the PL.

Unfortunately the real problem is that US owned clubs ( who were no doubt imho, responsible for the forcing the charges against City ) hold the majority vote . They are the cancer at the heart who will continue to drive changes for their benefit before that of everybody else.

And they will wish to retain their hold on the policies adopted going forward.

 

[Cobwebcat]

The time it’s taken makes me think it isn’t a slam dunk for either side.

 

[moomba]

A rule that stops any club from matching the spending of its rivals is a bigger risk to sporting integrity and any tribunal ruling.

 

[west didsblue]

The time it’s taken makes me think it isn’t a slam dunk for either side.

That’s what they want you to think.

 

[give it to gordon]

Supporters rarely want to believe that their club has done wrong , operated outside the rules the supporters by and large dismiss the rumours as being jealousy.in our case we can’t deny it.

I doubt that there are any clubs that are squeaky clean the rules governing clubs are complicated and many.

I personally will feel a lot happier when the FA matter is resolved no matter what the sanction

You say "doubt that there are any clubs that are squeaky clean the rules governing clubs are complicated and many."

This is the point that pisses me off. Why arent ALL investigated like City ?
Rags are known to use off sea accounts, rags use the books of Red Football Ltd for the pl to avoid breaking the rules.

Why are dippers allowed to use a shirt sponsor that is guilty of money laundering ?

Why are clubs allowed to build up huge debts ?

Why were Newcastle and Leicester allowed to have the owner as the stadium sponsor ?

As for the clubs that have been docked points they need to grow a pair and question why ? Rags broke ffp in Europe yet the pl has never looked into this. Chelsea broke ffp in Europe and the pl couldn't wait to announce its investigation.

Until the clubs stand up against this bent pl and mostly American cartel, it will get worst.

Citys 'crime' to invest in the club and the City of Manchester. To make City successful and debt free. In the bent Football world, City are all that is bad in football lol.

It's ok for clubs to have had owners investment in the past; dippers, rags, Blackburn etc. The American cartel dont like to invest.

 

[chesterbells]

From this weeks Economist, just for interest:

In the otherwise sunny story of the Premier League there is one big cloud. In 2023 Manchester City, one of England’s most successful clubs, was charged with well over 100 breaches of the league’s rules. Some of City’s alleged transgressions (all resolutely denied by the club) relate to non-co-operation with league officials. Most deal with failures to accurately report the club’s accounts, thus avoiding “financial fair play” regulations that could have curtailed the spending—over £1.9bn ($2.5bn)—that took City from mediocrity to dominance. In the 14 seasons covered by the charges, Manchester City won seven Premier League titles.

To adjudicate the case the Premier League has employed an independent commission of three anonymous judges. The hearing took place behind closed doors in December 2024. A lengthy judgment is still being prepared. The long wait for a verdict has caused frustration and fuelled conspiracy theories among fans. Chief among them are unsubstantiated suggestions of diplomatic interference (Manchester City are owned by Sheikh Mansour, the vice-president and deputy prime minister of the United Arab Emirates).

In recent years Everton and Nottingham Forest have received points deductions (of six and four points respectively) for single breaches of the league’s financial rules. If City were to be found guilty, Premier League rules mean they could face a fine, a points deduction or even expulsion from the league. Given the sheer number of charges, the scale of any potential punishment would almost certainly invite an appeal and legal challenges from the club. If City are cleared, receive a light punishment or strike a favourable plea bargain, fans and clubs alike will question the sporting integrity of the competition. It is without doubt the most consequential case in English football’s 163-year history.

An initial decision, rumoured for the summer, is unlikely to put the matter to bed. Any sanctions would have to wait until after the inevitable appeal. That could easily take another year. This looks destined to stretch into extra time plus plenty of injury time.


A few points stood out to me
1) They’ve got the time period wrong.
2) They should have referenced the CAS judgement.
3) Did they not reread the 3rd paragraph, how would City being cleared lead to questions of sporting integrity!

Which journalist’s name was attached to that, or was it an unnamed “opinion piece”?

 

[Kinkybyname]

Which journalist’s name was attached to that, or was it an unnamed “opinion piece”?

• The Collective Voice: The Economist operates under a collaborative editorial tradition. Articles are written by individual correspondents but heavily edited, meaning they speak for the collective voice of the publication rather than a single writer.
• Anonymity Policy: According to the publication's official history, this practice ensures that the text focuses purely on the strength of the argument and data rather than the identity or celebrity of the individual journalist.
  
  go figure

 

[WRicko]

You say "doubt that there are any clubs that are squeaky clean the rules governing clubs are complicated and many."

This is the point that pisses me off. Why arent ALL investigated like City ?
Rags are known to use off sea accounts, rags use the books of Red Football Ltd for the pl to avoid breaking the rules.

Why are dippers allowed to use a shirt sponsor that is guilty of money laundering ?

Why are clubs allowed to build up huge debts ?

Why were Newcastle and Leicester allowed to have the owner as the stadium sponsor ?

As for the clubs that have been docked points they need to grow a pair and question why ? Rags broke ffp in Europe yet the pl has never looked into this. Chelsea broke ffp in Europe and the pl couldn't wait to announce its investigation.

Until the clubs stand up against this bent pl and mostly American cartel, it will get worst.

Citys 'crime' to invest in the club and the City of Manchester. To make City successful and debt free. In the bent Football world, City are all that is bad in football lol.

It's ok for clubs to have had owners investment in the past; dippers, rags, Blackburn etc. The American cartel dont like to invest.

Don’t forget Liverpools hack or fake stadium plans that cost 50 million or United odd Covid allowances and minor unsubstantiated losses

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

You say "doubt that there are any clubs that are squeaky clean the rules governing clubs are complicated and many."

This is the point that pisses me off. Why arent ALL investigated like City ?
Rags are known to use off sea accounts, rags use the books of Red Football Ltd for the pl to avoid breaking the rules.

Why are dippers allowed to use a shirt sponsor that is guilty of money laundering ?

Why are clubs allowed to build up huge debts ?

Why were Newcastle and Leicester allowed to have the owner as the stadium sponsor ?

As for the clubs that have been docked points they need to grow a pair and question why ? Rags broke ffp in Europe yet the pl has never looked into this. Chelsea broke ffp in Europe and the pl couldn't wait to announce its investigation.

Until the clubs stand up against this bent pl and mostly American cartel, it will get worst.

Citys 'crime' to invest in the club and the City of Manchester. To make City successful and debt free. In the bent Football world, City are all that is bad in football lol.

It's ok for clubs to have had owners investment in the past; dippers, rags, Blackburn etc. The American cartel dont like to invest.

Every single trophy (bar one) in the Ferguson era was won with zero spending controls. They broke every transfer record, built up huge debts, and invested nothing in the local community. This is the United way.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Interesting that they stridently posit that if City are cleared (other) clubs will question the sporting integrity of the competition, rather than whether the competition’s administrative body is fit for purpose, which would surely be the correct issue to identify in those circumstances.

What the fuck have the charges got to do with sporting integrity anyway? None of the charges relate to anything that occurred on a football pitch.

And why is it always how catastrophic it will be for City if the charges are proven, but never catastrophic for the PL if they are substantively dismissed?

Was just going to say something similar. If City are cleared, why wouldn't it demonstrate that a process had been properly applied, evidence rigorously examined and this witch hunt finally put to bed?

What a shocker from one of the world's most long-established & respected magazines. If they and outlets like The Times & The Guardian write this shit, then what hope do we have of a fair hearing from the less well-regarded parts of the mainstream media?

Yet again I'm guessing there will be no action from City over this.

 

[Ban-jani]

Its strange how it's never mentioned the sporting advantage the rags have when they are a billion in debt but can spend 200m each summer

The fact they broke PSR by £155 million and it was just swept under the rug and given as a waiver by the Premier League, means I couldn’t give a fuck for the rules anyway. It’s a total disgrace and bent as fuck.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Which journalist’s name was attached to that, or was it an unnamed “opinion piece”?

Just proves that you can’t trust anything written in the economist. They can’t even get the basic information right such as the date the allegations relate to.

 

[hello]

Interesting that they stridently posit that if City are cleared (other) clubs will question the sporting integrity of the competition, rather than whether the competition’s administrative body is fit for purpose, which would surely be the correct issue to identify in those circumstances.

What the fuck have the charges got to do with sporting integrity anyway? None of the charges relate to anything that occurred on a football pitch.

And why is it always how catastrophic it will be for City if the charges are proven, but never catastrophic for the PL if they are substantively dismissed?

How can sporting integrity be a thing when sustainability regulations don’t incorporate debt, paying transfer fees off book for years is just a fine and fucking Arsenal don’t concede a penalty or red card all season when even pigmol admitting they should gave received 3 of each. The sporting integrity ship has sailed already.

 

[chesterbells]

Just proves that you can’t trust anything written in the economist. They can’t even get the basic information right such as the date the allegations relate to.

For sure. That’s what I’d be interested to know who actually wrote that …

 

[chesterbells]

• The Collective Voice: The Economist operates under a collaborative editorial tradition. Articles are written by individual correspondents but heavily edited, meaning they speak for the collective voice of the publication rather than a single writer.
• Anonymity Policy: According to the publication's official history, this practice ensures that the text focuses purely on the strength of the argument and data rather than the identity or celebrity of the individual journalist.
  
  go figure

Thanks for that. Never realised this before .. but it will certainly affect how I view that publication in future!

 

[eastlandsblue]

Was just going to say something similar. If City are cleared, why wouldn't it demonstrate that a process had been properly applied, evidence rigorously examined and this witch hunt finally put to bed?

What a shocker from one of the world's most long-established & respected magazines. If they and outlets like The Times & The Guardian write this shit, then what hope do we have of a fair hearing from the less well-regarded parts of the mainstream media?

Yet again I'm guessing there will be no action from City over this.

Didn’t Khaldoon say, something on the lines of well prove our innocence and then go after those who have pursued these charges. It was clearly a smear campaign to slow our progress down

I’ll be fuming if we get the line.” It’s over and we’ll leave it at that “

 

[SilverFox2]

Their target audience isn't interested in integrity or fact.

The media are their sole source of information and provides the grounds for their hatred of City and their success.

Better to ignore their shite, safe in the knowledge that they are seriously hurting, whilst City supporters have experienced a wonderfully successful period.

Not in City's long term interests to effectively bankrupt the PL.
The media are no longer news providers they sell their opinions of news to the highest bidders.
As you say media criticism seems to motivate both players and fans so it can't be that bad.