PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

NickDarkholme said:
From this weeks Economist, just for interest:

In the otherwise sunny story of the Premier League there is one big cloud. In 2023 Manchester City, one of England’s most successful clubs, was charged with well over 100 breaches of the league’s rules. Some of City’s alleged transgressions (all resolutely denied by the club) relate to non-co-operation with league officials. Most deal with failures to accurately report the club’s accounts, thus avoiding “financial fair play” regulations that could have curtailed the spending—over £1.9bn ($2.5bn)—that took City from mediocrity to dominance. In theI 14 seasons covered by the charges, Manchester City won seven Premier League titles.

To adjudicate the case the Premier League has employed an independent commission of three anonymous judges. The hearing took place behind closed doors in December 2024. A lengthy judgment is still being prepared. The long wait for a verdict has caused frustration and fuelled conspiracy theories among fans. Chief among them are unsubstantiated suggestions of diplomatic interference (Manchester City are owned by Sheikh Mansour, the vice-president and deputy prime minister of the United Arab Emirates).

In recent years Everton and Nottingham Forest have received points deductions (of six and four points respectively) for single breaches of the league’s financial rules. If City were to be found guilty, Premier League rules mean they could face a fine, a points deduction or even expulsion from the league. Given the sheer number of charges, the scale of any potential punishment would almost certainly invite an appeal and legal challenges from the club. If City are cleared, receive a light punishment or strike a favourable plea bargain, fans and clubs alike will question the sporting integrity of the competition. It is without doubt the most consequential case in English football’s 163-year history.

An initial decision, rumoured for the summer, is unlikely to put the matter to bed. Any sanctions would have to wait until after the inevitable appeal. That could easily take another year. This looks destined to stretch into extra time plus plenty of injury time.


A few points stood out to me
1) They’ve got the time period wrong.
2) They should have referenced the CAS judgement.
3) Did they not reread the 3rd paragraph, how would City being cleared lead to questions of sporting integrity!
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I don't think I have read one single article about the 115 that doesn't use 'if'. That one word shows every article is used for clicks.
Crap media
crap journalists
and soon to be a lot of silly looking media personalities.
Believe City fans we will win this.
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city5189 said:
The most annoying thing in all this bullshit is how one sided it's been reported in the media. They have convinced almost every football fan that we cheated for 10 years.
Cannot wait till this is over because there's going to be a hell of a lot of disappointment for these rival fans up and down the country.
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Yet they will console themselves with their tribal reasoning: got off on a technicality; everyone knows they're guilty; brown envelopes; an army of lawyers; the PL couldn't afford to continue; their owner is involved in British politics...
 
city5189 said:
The most annoying thing in all this bullshit is how one sided it's been reported in the media. They have convinced almost every football fan that we cheated for 10 years.
Cannot wait till this is over because there's going to be a hell of a lot of disappointment for these rival fans up and down the country.
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Regarding the media, it’s all for clicks. This story attracts that.

Regarding rival fans. I couldn’t give a flying bollock what they think, never have. Nobody should care what they think.
 
NickDarkholme said:
In recent years Everton and Nottingham Forest have received points deductions (of six and four points respectively) for single breaches of the league’s financial rules. If City were to be found guilty, Premier League rules mean they could face a fine, a points deduction or even expulsion from the league. Given the sheer number of charges, the scale of any potential punishment would almost certainly invite an appeal and legal challenges from the club. If City are cleared, receive a light punishment or strike a favourable plea bargain, fans and clubs alike will question the sporting integrity of the competition. It is without doubt the most consequential case in English football’s 163-year history.
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Interesting that they stridently posit that if City are cleared (other) clubs will question the sporting integrity of the competition, rather than whether the competition’s administrative body is fit for purpose, which would surely be the correct issue to identify in those circumstances.

What the fuck have the charges got to do with sporting integrity anyway? None of the charges relate to anything that occurred on a football pitch.

And why is it always how catastrophic it will be for City if the charges are proven, but never catastrophic for the PL if they are substantively dismissed?
 
oldius said:
Yet they will console themselves with their tribal reasoning: got off on a technicality; everyone knows they're guilty; brown envelopes; an army of lawyers; the PL couldn't afford to continue; their owner is involved in British politics...
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The desperation in finding us guilty is both amusing and sad.
The Premier league and the media have a lot to answer for how they went about this witch-hunt,they clearly went for maximum effort to destroy this club. Cunts
 
I actually started to enjoy the constant rivals 115 stuff. Everytime Pep has come up this week its all "he's gone because of the charges coming out"... etc. I just ask the question of who is paying City's legal fees and damages 'if' we innocent? We could ask for north of 150m.. legal fees..reputation damage to brand. Damages related to sporting integrity...lost revenue streams... now I think about it. 19 teams 20m each..
 
oldius said:
Yet they will console themselves with their tribal reasoning: got off on a technicality; everyone knows they're guilty; brown envelopes; an army of lawyers; the PL couldn't afford to continue; their owner is involved in British politics...
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The only way to try and stop this kind of rhetoric is once we are found not guilty of all the charges we go after the Premier League with our own charges. Bringing the game into disrepute for one.
Then “some” of the press pack who have been filling the nations ears, or anyone who will listen with the lies & hate filled bias ..
Once that’s done, let’s with clear reasons why start banning those who have spouted said guff from our ground.
 
Lord Blue said:
Okay so you accept that you cheated. Fair enough.
Not sure that’s right re timeline because Everyman and his dog knew about the dodgy dealings even when RA was there. Chelsea fans just denied it.
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Still dodgy under the new ownership with PSR rules. The main element being “sustainability”, how can the Chav model of selling hotels, the ladies team and other one off assets possibly be sustainable?

By very definition they couldn’t meet PSR rules, they found a way to transgress the criteria and the dick heads at the Premier League accepted the process whilst failing to apply the definition of “sustainability”. Anyone at the PL involved with ratifying the Chav’s bending of the rules needs sacking for gross misconduct.

The Tarquin’s and Brighton’s soft loans also abused PSR but they were dwarfed by Abramovich’s 1.6b disguised “investment” which ran up to the day he was forced to give up ownership of the club. His involvement was obviously abusing FFP rules, our owners could easily have gone down that route but chose not to, no saddling of debt should have been applauded.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Interesting that they stridently posit that if City are cleared (other) clubs will question the sporting integrity of the competition, rather than whether the competition’s administrative body is fit for purpose, which would surely be the correct issue to identify in those circumstances.

What the fuck have the charges got to do with sporting integrity anyway? None of the charges relate to anything that occurred on a football pitch.

And why is it always how catastrophic it will be for City if the charges are proven, but never catastrophic for the PL if they are substantively dismissed?
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Their target audience isn't interested in integrity or fact.

The media are their sole source of information and provides the grounds for their hatred of City and their success.

Better to ignore their shite, safe in the knowledge that they are seriously hurting, whilst City supporters have experienced a wonderfully successful period.
 
oldius said:
Yet they will console themselves with their tribal reasoning: got off on a technicality; everyone knows they're guilty; brown envelopes; an army of lawyers; the PL couldn't afford to continue; their owner is involved in British politics...
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There is a way to stop all this and that is to stop winning.
Rejoice and celebrate twice as hard when we win, in the knowledge that it's eating them up, I love it.
 
The pl are fucked in this either way.

When we win they will be asked why they went all this way with a flimsy case in an attempt to destroy one of their founder members at the cost of tens of millions pounds at the behest of other clubs and will ultimately to be shown as not fit for purpose.

If in the unlikely event we lose the question must be asked that the pl accepted both ours and chelseas accounts over a number of years as factual when they were not to that end every single other club must therefore require the same level of scrutiny given to city as the pls checks werent fit for purpose and if that isnt given then its quite simply discrimination.

Either way they have completely fucked themselves in the most stupid way possible.
 
NickDarkholme said:
From this weeks Economist, just for interest:

In the otherwise sunny story of the Premier League there is one big cloud. In 2023 Manchester City, one of England’s most successful clubs, was charged with well over 100 breaches of the league’s rules. Some of City’s alleged transgressions (all resolutely denied by the club) relate to non-co-operation with league officials. Most deal with failures to accurately report the club’s accounts, thus avoiding “financial fair play” regulations that could have curtailed the spending—over £1.9bn ($2.5bn)—that took City from mediocrity to dominance. In the 14 seasons covered by the charges, Manchester City won seven Premier League titles.

To adjudicate the case the Premier League has employed an independent commission of three anonymous judges. The hearing took place behind closed doors in December 2024. A lengthy judgment is still being prepared. The long wait for a verdict has caused frustration and fuelled conspiracy theories among fans. Chief among them are unsubstantiated suggestions of diplomatic interference (Manchester City are owned by Sheikh Mansour, the vice-president and deputy prime minister of the United Arab Emirates).

In recent years Everton and Nottingham Forest have received points deductions (of six and four points respectively) for single breaches of the league’s financial rules. If City were to be found guilty, Premier League rules mean they could face a fine, a points deduction or even expulsion from the league. Given the sheer number of charges, the scale of any potential punishment would almost certainly invite an appeal and legal challenges from the club. If City are cleared, receive a light punishment or strike a favourable plea bargain, fans and clubs alike will question the sporting integrity of the competition. It is without doubt the most consequential case in English football’s 163-year history.

An initial decision, rumoured for the summer, is unlikely to put the matter to bed. Any sanctions would have to wait until after the inevitable appeal. That could easily take another year. This looks destined to stretch into extra time plus plenty of injury time.


A few points stood out to me
1) They’ve got the time period wrong.
2) They should have referenced the CAS judgement.
3) Did they not reread the 3rd paragraph, how would City being cleared lead to questions of sporting integrity!
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Comparing Everton & Forest to City is the equivelant of comparing a speeding final of doing 30 in a 20 zone with factual evidence to mass murder with flimsy circumstancial evidence and no bodies at best & then trying to screw us over when City say no comment to every question
 
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