Fuck knows to be honest, I just can’t think of anything else other than we’ve been found absolutely bang to rights and the Premier League want to cover it up due to ramifications. But then everything City are doing and saying screams the opposite.How would the PL possibly enforce that?
And what would the club have to gain from agreeing to that approach?
Getting?3.5 years since we were charged and also an investigation going on for 4 years before that.Total of 7.5 years without justice. Just getting shambolic at this stage.
Loosen your knickers.Apologies if this has been covered in some way before. I've always been confident of the outcome based on the more legally minded opinions on here BUT I can't believe the two parties still don't know the outcome. So I was trying to understand what could be causing the delay releasing the decision & the only scenario I could imagine would be that they are addressing the issue of damages/punishments.
If City have won, I would have thought that would be (relatively) straightforward but the more complicated (and therefore time consuming) would be if the PL have won. The timespan would mean the virtual every club could come looking for some amount of compensation from City.
Is this feasible or am I worrying unnecessarily?
Gordyola has kindly answered as I would have.Pannick posted on this thread? Probably buried deep within the barm/muffin debate as I missed it.
In terms of examples of this happening before, rewind 1 week to the Chelsea case and confirmation that the FA provided both sides with the verdict in January.
It was accepted it was genuine but I certainly didn’t accept Pannick was going to give some random internet fella anything other than what he did.Theres a poster on here who somewhile ago email Lord Pannick at his chambers and he replied, following some iterogation, including Stefan, it was widely accepted that it was genuine. They followed the reply up a couple more times, one very recently and he confirmed that they were still waiting
Also Stefan has his ear to the ground in legal circles. Not speaking for him but I get the impression that he is confident that he would hear when the verdict has been delivered
He is emailing a poster here, and he would surely just not reply rather than lie.
Amended for accuracy.Hence the quote
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One of gdm's favourites I believe.
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It was accepted it was genuine but I certainly didn’t accept Pannick was going to give some random internet fella anything other than what he did.
If that’s the case then surely, at some point, an Arsenal, Liverpool or Man U fan is going to ask “what about City?” … unless they really don’t care about us!We’re never going to hear now.
We’ve won comprehensively but they can’t release the details to the public, so it’s been buried.
That’s the only logical conclusion in my mind right now.
It really all hinges on what Pannick's use of the word "... delivered..." really means.Lawyers don't lie, they say what they want, or are allowed, to say in a way that leaves them wiggle room.
This is what Pannick said in his emails to @Paladin:
In October 2025: We don't know when the verdict will be delivered or what it will say. We are all waiting.
In November 2025: No developments. No fresh information.
In April 2026: We are still waiting. No date yet for a decision.
In July 2026: No news and now fuck off and stop bothering me on holiday (or words to that effect).
I don't want to be that guy, but for someone who makes a career out of being very precise, that doesn't say much. "Verdict" "Delivered" "Decision" "Developments" "Information".
Before our lawyers (again) accuse me of being a fool or being naive for suggesting Pannick is lying. I am not saying that. I am saying that a profession that can conclude the Brighton CEO didn't really mean "investment from Gulf states" when he explicitly used those words in an email in the APT case, could easily conclude that Pannick is saying nothing of consequence in those emails.
This isn't a dig at @Paladin, I can admire his balls (perhaps later) for emailing Pannick in the first place and I can respect Pannick for replying, even if, at the end of the day, it all means nothing.
I am just not ready to believe those emails mean literally what some people believe they mean and hang my hat on it.
Tony Soprano in the chippy.Fells like it should be a line from a film, that.
I'm picturing either Samuel L or Pacino...
To be polite?Then why bother replying at all?
3.5 years since we were charged and also an investigation going on for 4 years before that.Total of 7.5 years without justice. Just getting shambolic at this stage.
Anyone who thinks the outcome of this,which ever way it goes,will be covered up is totally deluded .Fuck knows to be honest, I just can’t think of anything else other than we’ve been found absolutely bang to rights and the Premier League want to cover it up due to ramifications. But then everything City are doing and saying screams the opposite.
The whole thing is a disgrace.
Well there’s nothing more obvious than the PL targeting City. Everything was fine with the spending, until the rags realised they’d have to spend to competeSo...
What if the judgment reflects badly on both parties? It isn't an option many have contemplated and perhaps with good reason, but what if that were the case?
Imagine a scenario where City were adjudged to have circumvented rules. Either deliberately or in good faith but still technical breaches.... BUT the PL were also found to have targeted City or not applied similar scrutiny to others...
That would be a 'can of worms' scenario where both parties might prefer to keep matters quiet for as long as possible, if not indefinitely. The repercussions being City found guilty of some of the charges but the PL then forced to apply similar scrutiny to others which would cause mayhem.
Now, before anybody latches onto the City guilt thing... it is merely an illustration of a scenario that hasn't really been discussed - both sides losing.
Grow up mate ffs.Then why bother replying at all?
Anyone who thinks the outcome of this,which ever way it goes,will be covered up is totally deluded .
Why would City allow them to cover it up, the innuendo would never stop.
If the Premier League had won,they would be singing from the rooftops.