De Bruyne?

Bewar3them00n said:
I'd put that performance more down to poor management tactics for the game, as the whole team underperformed in that game, you can't expect 1 player to drag the whole team to a win ( unless it's Tevez) remember City v Wigan in the final? ( I know most of us try not to, but...!) could've been an off day.
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DeBruyne was no way less effective than Hazard. Other way around imo.
 
Hmm - i think we should reconsider the necessity of this signing given the proposed transfer fee. A good player yes but in my opinion an alternative to Pogba is more important which require a big fee
 
Forzacitizens said:
Hmm - i think we should reconsider the necessity of this signing given the proposed transfer fee. A good player yes but in my opinion an alternative to Pogba is more important which require a big fee
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Hmmm I think I may put more faith in Txiki than you.
 
nellyonthewing said:
This Thread started 449 pages ago in Decemeber 2014 when we were lining up a £20 million move ..So what now makes him a £40 million player.?
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The press just pull numbers out of thin air and run with them -- he was never going to be a £20m player. He was Belgium's best player at the World Cup last summer and by the time that story had been posted, he already had 10 assists in the BuLi season alongside 3 goals. On top of that, he had 3 goals and 2 assists in the Europa League.

A month later, he absolutely ripped Bayern Munich to shreds and scored 2 goals and an assist. Later in the year he lead Wolfsburg to the DFB Pokal (their FA Cup) over Dortmund. Finished with 16 goals and 27 assists on the season. I'd say his baseline value is in that £40m range and then you tack on the fact that Wolfsburg are very wealthy and don't want to sell him and you get £50-60m.
 
Forzacitizens said:
Hmm - i think we should reconsider the necessity of this signing given the proposed transfer fee. A good player yes but in my opinion an alternative to Pogba is more important which require a big fee
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I'm guessing that Delph is our alternative to Pogba (even if that wasn't the Plan A). We have pace an energy up front and on the wings. Just need a lunatic in the middle to try to regain the ball.
 
pudge said:
Didn't they pay around £18m for him?
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So a player is bought for 18 mil by a club who doesn't need to sell. Said player goes on to dominate the league and lead Europe in assists. In what works does said player only appreciate, by 2 million pounds. I have seen players warm the bench for a year and then go for more (Mata).

20 was always wishful thinking. 35 was generally my thought on it. 42 seems slightly high, but we just paid 49 for Sterling who had a down season.
 
SWP's back said:
Hmmm I think I may put more faith in Txiki than you.
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That's fine - I'm not claiming to be a director of football but this is a forum you know - where you state your opinions.

I'm happy to be proved wrong but I honestly don't see any improvement in our midfield
 
Forzacitizens said:
That's fine - I'm not claiming to be a director of football but this is a forum you know - where you state your opinions.

I'm happy to be proved wrong but I honestly don't see any improvement in our midfield
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You don't see how someone who led Europe in assists improves our midfield? Following a season where our goals were down and our crossing was poor from... Our midfield?
 
Forzacitizens said:
Hmm - i think we should reconsider the necessity of this signing given the proposed transfer fee. A good player yes but in my opinion an alternative to Pogba is more important which require a big fee
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We have the money for Pogba and De Bruyne so if we miss out on Pogba there's even more for any other potential player. In terms of CM options Pogba is probably the most expensive out there.
 
I also would like to say that it is clear with our signings that we are looking to relieve the pressure of 2 very key players in Silva and Yaya. Teams used to be able to focus on Silva, now have to worry about Sterling's pace and KDB being a more diverse crosser than Navas. Delph brining his energy will mean Yaya doesn't have to do a lot of heavy running on both sides of the pitch. But KDB will be a tremendous signing playing with Sterling Silva and Kun.

And if you look at the caliber of teams inquiring about KDB: Us, Juve, Bayern, PSG, vs the teams after the players he helped make look better like Dost and Newcastle and Perisic/Inter, you can see why a lot of people rate him highly.
 
Not convinced about de Bruyne when we have Bony and Navas. Is he that much better than those two?
 
supercity88 said:
We have the money for Pogba and De Bruyne so if we miss out on Pogba there's even more for any other potential player. In terms of CM options Pogba is probably the most expensive out there.
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In fact, if we managed £30m for the Balkan pair, be it up front or in loan obligations (the precedent is Negredo, we were allowed to use the guaranteed money early), our net spend would be quite negligible.

Sales/sell-ons (Nastasic, Rekik, Boyata, Sinclair, Trippier, Hiwula): ca. £17m
Balkan pair: ca. £30m (ideally)
= £47m

Spent: £44m + £2m + £4m + £8m = £58m (Sterling and Roberts add-ons have not been triggered)
 
I created this table to have the whole picture.

1 Hart Caballero Wright
1 Zaba Sagna
1 Kompa Denay?
1 Demi Mangala
1 Kolarov Clichy
2 Fernando Dinho Delph Zucu?
1 Toure Pogba
1 Nasri De Bruyne Navas
1 Silva Sterling
1 Aguero Bony Nacho?

With these players we can play any 'telephone number' systems, 4-4-2; 4-2-2-2; 4-3-3; 4-2-3-1.
 
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