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Dribble said:
The whole defence was dog shit most of last season, so what's changed from then until now? Our change in formation, that's what. MDM apart, none of our defence covered themselves in glory, but if Otamedi is available having him here with a view to replacing MDM next season would make perfect sense.

If reports of Lopez going the other way are true, then it all starts to make sense. The only thing that's occurred to me is didn't we include the Valencia money for Negredo in the Bony deal? I know it looks like FFP is going tits up, but how would this effect things?
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Agree is raises questions on the Negredo/Bony/FFP situation but I have no idea where we stand with all that!
 
markbmcfc said:
People need to chill their beans.

He would have been discussed as a target since the end of last season and thought about over the summer. Could anyone begrudge us looking at a new top class CB and maybe moving Mangala on loan after last season?

It just seems strange now since we've played two games and looked solid, but these decisions are not made on a whim after two games.

Say it's a run of form and then Mangala is dog shit between September to November, Otamendi goes to the rags and is brilliant, and the window is shut and we can't do anything, what then? Txiki would need private security from folk on here.

City can't win on transfer sometimes.
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if we loan him out then like Savic and Nastasic he won't be coming back. He'll feel like he doesn't belong and his City career will be over. He was immense today and with more games and regular selection in a settled back four he'll prove to be a sound buy for the big fee we paid for him. Also, what does it say to Denayer ? Further down the pecking order.
 
Everyone saying about Mangala not going he ain't gonna be happy on the bench is he? Or if he goes out on loan he will still come back next season and we are in the same situation. Pointless deal we have a fine selection of centre backs as it is.
 
It would be sad to loose out on mangala for otem,yes otem is worldclass argubly , but haven't we seen time n again new players taking time to settle in PL ,and sounds perplexing to me to loan out a defender who is starting to find his feet in pl
Only winner in this deal though is Valencia ,there losing a player who wants to leave them and getting a top prospect of the future on loan as well as the money
 
stan bowles said:
if we loan him out then like Savic and Nastasic he won't be coming back. He'll feel like he doesn't belong and his City career will be over. He was immense today and with more games and regular selection in a settled back four he'll prove to be a sound buy for the big fee we paid for him. Also, what does it say to Denayer ? Further down the pecking order.
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FWIW I agree and I'm not sold on the idea by any stretch but at the same time all this vitriol on here about it being a disaster is a bit OTT.

And we all know full well if Mangala turns to shit (remember how good he was on his debut and never returned to that form), Otamendi goes elsewhere and looks brilliant, this place will be scathing of Txiki and everybody knows it.

If you have a transfer strategy over a summer I don't personally feel you should change it in the back of two games.

I hope he stays and if he does go I hope he comes back a better player, he has everything he needs to be a top player.
 
@City_Watch: City have also offered youngster Marcos Lopes (19) on loan to Valencia as part of the Otamendi deal. (via @dmestalla)
 
Maybe we've rethought this after seeing Mangalas settled and offered them Lopes on loan instead he hasn't been in either of the squads and we had 3 defenders on the bench today instead of him
 
Don't think we need him at all.

We really need a WC midfielder if we are going to get going in Europe. Yaya, Delph and Dinho is not going to cut it. I can understand the thinking after VK and Mangala were so poor last year but I'd drop it right now.
 
SWP's back said:
Nothing surprises me when some of our fans feel they can stick the boot in.

Wouldn't be at all surprised if they were Mangalas biggest detractors last season either.

Fuck em
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Who are these imaginary blues?

I was at the game, and was one of the most vocal in preferring Mangala over Benatia last year. I was always of the opinion that we should be patient with Mangala, many a Porto fan said he had to iron out a few rough edges, and that was evident least season.

And I'm being just as vocal now in saying we shouldn't ship him out when he looks to be settling.

You can't put everyone who expresses criticism in any respect into some little box to dismiss them and their opinions.
 
Blue_Rossy said:
Sorry ono, I think you're wrong on this occasion. Oti is a class defender, and will make us a lot stronger. I trust the club and pellers. They know more than we do, or we would all be prem managers.
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To be fair we have a poor record when it comes to signing centre backs recently.
 
Guillem Balague: 'Nicolas Otamendi Manchester City deal confirmed'
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By Chris O'Keefe, Reporter
Filed: Sunday, August 16, 2015 at 21:05 UK
Last Updated: Sunday, August 16, 2015 at 21:08 UK
Spanish journalist Gulliem Balague has tweeted thatManchester City have wrapped up a deal for Valenciadefender Nicolas Otamendi.

The Argentine centre-back was heavily linked with a move to city rivals Manchester United during the summer.

However, Balague claims that the Citizens have beaten the Red Devils to the signature of the 27-year-old after having a €40m (£28.4m) offer accepted by Los Che, with the transfer being officially confirmed on Monday.

It is reported that Eliaquim Mangala, who joined City from Porto last summer, will join the Spanish giants on a season-long loan as part of the deal.

Balague has also suggested that Real Madrid were willing to pay Otamendi's €50m release clause, if Sergio Ramos had left the club during the close season.



Tomorrow all confirmed: Otamendi to City for €40m and Mangala on loan. Real Madrid would have paid €50m buy out clause if Ramos had gone

— Guillem Balague (@GuillemBalague) August 16, 2015
 
SWP's back said:
This
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Haha, petty and

SWP's back said:
I didn't.
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a hippocrite then...

I don't think bringing a defender with no PL experience and letting one we're just starting to bed, is a good move. You think Otamendi is an upgrade, i'll go with a strange risk at best. Thats my opinion, which being a forum, is full of them.

Don't know why you seem to have such an issue with me saying that.
 
blueincy said:
Guillem Balague: 'Nicolas Otamendi Manchester City deal confirmed'
nicolas-otamendi.jpg

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By Chris O'Keefe, Reporter
Filed: Sunday, August 16, 2015 at 21:05 UK
Last Updated: Sunday, August 16, 2015 at 21:08 UK
Spanish journalist Gulliem Balague has tweeted thatManchester City have wrapped up a deal for Valenciadefender Nicolas Otamendi.

The Argentine centre-back was heavily linked with a move to city rivals Manchester United during the summer.

However, Balague claims that the Citizens have beaten the Red Devils to the signature of the 27-year-old after having a €40m (£28.4m) offer accepted by Los Che, with the transfer being officially confirmed on Monday.

It is reported that Eliaquim Mangala, who joined City from Porto last summer, will join the Spanish giants on a season-long loan as part of the deal.

Balague has also suggested that Real Madrid were willing to pay Otamendi's €50m release clause, if Sergio Ramos had left the club during the close season.



Tomorrow all confirmed: Otamendi to City for €40m and Mangala on loan. Real Madrid would have paid €50m buy out clause if Ramos had gone

— Guillem Balague (@GuillemBalague) August 16, 2015
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Just hope they've got the part about Mangala going the other way wrong. Otherwise it sounds a decent deal....
 
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