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jimmygrimblesboots said:
No doubt otamendi is a good defender and being argentinian i believe he will adapt easily to the premier league , and will be a great addition to the squad but this signing only proves 100% that MP will never give any of our youth players a chance. Denayer must be disillusioned , he has had a superb pre season , his agent was allegedly promised there would be no more centre back signings and yet we have a 30m experienced international centre back on the verge of signing . VK is showing signs of a return to form , Mangala is improving with every game , MDM was our best defender last year , and Denayer has shown real promise , so i think the Otamendi signing is overkill , MP and any future manager will be paid on results and the pressure to win trophies will mean our club will not develop players for our own 1st team , the likes of angelino,barker,iheancho,denayer,byrne,horsfield etc etc will probably forge decent careers similiar to Trippier and Ben Mee , so at least our academy will pay for itself in transfer fees , loans and sell-on deals.
This is more an observation than a critcism of our club , we cant have it both ways , watching some of the best players in the world week in , week out and winning trophies does not go hand in hand with youth development in the modern game , i can hark back to the White,Lake,Brightwell,Hinchcliffe,Moulden era , and the pride we had in our home grown lads , but we won nowt.
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which universe are you in now?
 
jimmygrimblesboots said:
No doubt otamendi is a good defender and being argentinian i believe he will adapt easily to the premier league , and will be a great addition to the squad but this signing only proves 100% that MP will never give any of our youth players a chance. Denayer must be disillusioned , he has had a superb pre season , his agent was allegedly promised there would be no more centre back signings and yet we have a 30m experienced international centre back on the verge of signing . VK is showing signs of a return to form , Mangala is improving with every game , MDM was our best defender last year , and Denayer has shown real promise , so i think the Otamendi signing is overkill , MP and any future manager will be paid on results and the pressure to win trophies will mean our club will not develop players for our own 1st team , the likes of angelino,barker,iheancho,denayer,byrne,horsfield etc etc will probably forge decent careers similiar to Trippier and Ben Mee , so at least our academy will pay for itself in transfer fees , loans and sell-on deals.
This is more an observation than a critcism of our club , we cant have it both ways , watching some of the best players in the world week in , week out and winning trophies does not go hand in hand with youth development in the modern game , i can hark back to the White,Lake,Brightwell,Hinchcliffe,Moulden era , and the pride we had in our home grown lads , but we won nowt.
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Not very holistic but when a player of class comes available you just have to take it
 
jimmygrimblesboots said:
No doubt otamendi is a good defender and being argentinian i believe he will adapt easily to the premier league , and will be a great addition to the squad but this signing only proves 100% that MP will never give any of our youth players a chance. Denayer must be disillusioned , he has had a superb pre season , his agent was allegedly promised there would be no more centre back signings and yet we have a 30m experienced international centre back on the verge of signing . VK is showing signs of a return to form , Mangala is improving with every game , MDM was our best defender last year , and Denayer has shown real promise , so i think the Otamendi signing is overkill , MP and any future manager will be paid on results and the pressure to win trophies will mean our club will not develop players for our own 1st team , the likes of angelino,barker,iheancho,denayer,byrne,horsfield etc etc will probably forge decent careers similiar to Trippier and Ben Mee , so at least our academy will pay for itself in transfer fees , loans and sell-on deals.
This is more an observation than a critcism of our club , we cant have it both ways , watching some of the best players in the world week in , week out and winning trophies does not go hand in hand with youth development in the modern game , i can hark back to the White,Lake,Brightwell,Hinchcliffe,Moulden era , and the pride we had in our home grown lads , but we won nowt.
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Yes White, Brightwell, Hinchcliffe, Moulden, Lomas, Foster have now become Yaya, Silva, Aguero, Kompany, Sterling and Otamendi .....I know what I would rather have
 
jimmygrimblesboots said:
No doubt otamendi is a good defender and being argentinian i believe he will adapt easily to the premier league , and will be a great addition to the squad but this signing only proves 100% that MP will never give any of our youth players a chance. Denayer must be disillusioned , he has had a superb pre season , his agent was allegedly promised there would be no more centre back signings and yet we have a 30m experienced international centre back on the verge of signing . VK is showing signs of a return to form , Mangala is improving with every game , MDM was our best defender last year , and Denayer has shown real promise , so i think the Otamendi signing is overkill , MP and any future manager will be paid on results and the pressure to win trophies will mean our club will not develop players for our own 1st team , the likes of angelino,barker,iheancho,denayer,byrne,horsfield etc etc will probably forge decent careers similiar to Trippier and Ben Mee , so at least our academy will pay for itself in transfer fees , loans and sell-on deals.
This is more an observation than a critcism of our club , we cant have it both ways , watching some of the best players in the world week in , week out and winning trophies does not go hand in hand with youth development in the modern game , i can hark back to the White,Lake,Brightwell,Hinchcliffe,Moulden era , and the pride we had in our home grown lads , but we won nowt.
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That team was relegated twice, mate
 
Andouble said:
why was he so keen to get out of Valencia this summer?
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It was cited, that he wanted to ensure the situation of his family (££ $$), and, of course, he wanted to play in bigger clubs, Chamnpions League, and more.

You have first to understand, that he was called up to play for Argentina (under Maradona as coach) with only 20 years, and was hailed as one of the best defenders in Argentina since Roberto Ayala. So.. of curse he want to play for a bigger club, and wiki something..
 
OB1 said:
Denayer's development might be best served by a loan to a Prem League team where he will play a lot and then come back and replace MDM.
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Agree - it's so obvious to me that this is the best solution for everyone. If Denayer goes on loan to another team in a proper league and performs to same level as at Celtic we bring him back. If not we sell like we did rekik or others when we don't think they'll make the grade.
 
Universidad de Chile said:
It was cited, that he wanted to ensure the situation of his family (££ $$), and, of course, he wanted to play in bigger clubs, Chamnpions League, and more.

You have first to understand, that he was called up to play for Argentina (under Maradona as coach) with only 20 years, and was hailed as one of the best defenders in Argentina since Roberto Ayala. So.. of curse he want to play for a bigger club, and wiki something..
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I think he's aware of his age. He's 27 so he knows if he wants to reach the top and win things, he has to get his big move now. In 2 years it will be too late.
 
OB1 said:
Denayer's development might be best served by a loan to a Prem League team where he will play a lot and then come back and replace MDM.
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Everton could be a decent shout if Stones goes to Chelsea. Kenwright's not one for splashing the cash, so a loan deal might suit them.
 
Ric said:
Everton could be a decent shout if Stones goes to Chelsea. Kenwright's not one for splashing the cash, so a loan deal might suit them.
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We should not loan players to replace a player that has gone to a rival in my opinion, that would be helping them with the transfer
 
GeorgeHeslop'sTackle. said:
That team was relegated twice, mate
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exactly my point , i still had belief in those players , because they were locally developed lads , and maybe the main reason why our support was superb in the 2nd and 3rd tiers , but we were a selling club , our finances were dire , thank allah/god (delete as appropiate) for Sheik Mansour , like a previous poster stated , silva,yaya,aguero or white,moulden,etc , no contest ,and i certainly dont miss the annual relegation struggle (although i was partial to the flat Greenalls beer at the back of the Kippax on a cold November evening)
 
Ric said:
Everton could be a decent shout if Stones goes to Chelsea. Kenwright's not one for splashing the cash, so a loan deal might suit them.
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Everton and any of the newly promoted sides would be good experience for him. I hope City are working on either Denayer going out on loan or MDM leaving a year early, i think having 5 CBs for the year would do more harm than good
 
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