Post Match Thread: City v Juventus

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So Juve's early season form was just to lull our "support" into thinking they were there for the taking - they are a quality team that put it together on the night.

Could it be that we end as runners up again and play Barca in the last 16?
 
Bluekiwi said:
So Juve's early season form was just to lull our "support" into thinking they were there for the taking - they are a quality team that put it together on the night.

Could it be that we end as runners up again and play Barca in the last 16?
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Runners up? Jesus, we'll be luckyu. Fancy Juve and Sevilla to get out of this group. Not us.
 
Marvin said:
It wasn't tactics that failed to finish them though was it? We had the chance but missed it. That was a theme of the night

Fair to say that it was a cagey and very competitive game and we could have gambled a bit more, but the main reason we lost that game was because Juve had one of those nights where they had about 4 or 5 attacks and scored 2 goals and City failed to take our own chances.
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I see your point but whatever had gone on before and no matter how many chances we should have scored from , we hadn't so when we did finally score we made a simple tactical mistake in not closing the game out as they would certainly have done if they had gone a goal in front.
 
Proy said:
Our general play was OK.

Just stifled by a Classic Italian team. As I alluded to before, the only thing I can pick tactically was playing Nasri on the right.

I thought Bony was particularly poor and looked a bit star struck and let the occasion get to him. Remember he has very limited CL experience.

We were otherwise sound. We do need the tide to turn a little though. I think we are unlucky on occasion in this competition and whilst you generally make your own luck, teams are ruthless when they come to the Etihad and generally take the chance/s that are created.

The fine details usually go against us, we get those breaks in the league.
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if you want to be critical of City then maybe we should look at the decision to play Aguero at Palace. That was decisive because Morata showed the value of a World Class forward tonight and the one weakness in City's game was our forward play. Bony looked off the pace - which of course he would seeing as he rarely plays. This is a bit of an issue for City. We will end up with another Jovetic and Dzeko if we don't play Bony, and then when he plays and struggle the idiots think he is rubbish
 
Marvin said:
if you want to be critical of City then maybe we should look at the decision to play Aguero at Palace. That was decisive because Morata showed the value of a World Class forward tonight and the one weakness in City's game was our forward play. Bony looked off the pace - which of course he would seeing as he rarely plays. This is a bit of an issue for City. We will end up with another Jovetic and Dzeko if we don't play Bony, and then when he plays and struggle the idiots think he is rubbish
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That's a fair argument. We have the depth to be resting Aguero in games before CL ones.

Juve rested a number of players at the weekend despite a poor start domestically.

We could learn a thing or two and start to make more use of our squad. Quite often one or two changes will not affect us against the majority of PL sides in games preceding CL ones.

A fully fit and firing Aguero and tonight's outcome might have been different.
 
Juve have always been good defensively so I wasn't surprised it was hard for us to score but still we didn't look anything like we had been in the league so far we made it easy for them
Although is sterling put away his 2 chances it's a completely different game and we probably pick up 3-4 goals all together but we didn't take our chances they took there's and now we move onto the premier league again and need to continue winning and forget about this game

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Nasri showed again why it's so hard to start him when coming off the bench he seems to always change the game and boost the team but starting he rarely shows how good he is you would think someone on the outer of the starting 11 already last year and after buying 2 more players for him to compete with given a starting chance he would put in a lot more effort but he didn't
Hopefully pelles starts KDB STERLING SILVA for the weekend and we can see out real attacking midfield in action
 
I would have had us sit tight when we scored & take the sting out of the game. Also taken Silva off for Navas & moved Nasri in behind Bony. I thought Silva was pretty much a waste of time, neither helping the midfield nor giving Bony any support. Navas would have been a good defensive move enabling us to close down quicker & hit them on the break. Then I would have swapped Nasri for DeBruyne a bit later. Taking Sterling off was stupid imo, unless he's injured.

I think we would have won comfortably if Pellegrini had taken action to tighten it up straight away. And I recon we could have scored several on the break. I thought it was poor from Pellegrini, but that still doesn't explain why our best players lose all their vision & passing ability in this competition. No inspiration or intelligence in the play.

That step over from Bony was probably the only real piece of play to reach our usual level of cleverness. It's not the same team, at all. I hope we sort it before DeBruyne & Sterling catch the Champs League mediocrity bug from the others.
 
Proy said:
That's a fair argument. We have the depth to be resting Aguero in games before CL ones.

Juve rested a number of players at the weekend despite a poor start domestically.

We could learn a thing or two and start to make more use of our squad. Quite often one or two changes will not affect us against the majority of PL sides in games preceding CL ones.

A fully fit and firing Aguero and tonight's outcome might have been different.
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Palace was much more important imo. We can wn the Prem, we won't win this.
 
For fucks sake. We were utter shite. These cunts couldn't beat Udinese, or Chievo, or Roma. Us? Piece of piss! Love to see what Vinny's got to say about that. Essentially, we are shit at this champions league bollocks. Sick to death of all these idiots asking "PL or CL?" As if we are ever going to win it! More fucking chance of the scum winning it than us.
 
Our manager is clueless at this level. He's either arrogant or stupid and I'm not sure which one it is, as he just never learns from past mistakes. The failure to register another striker in the squad looks to be a fatal move. Willy could have been left out or Nasri and the young striker included.
 
Bitterly disappointing result.

This was a Juventus team that was there for the taking, but it was the same old City when it comes to CL.
This was our chance to make a statement - and we did - but not the kind of statement we wanted to make.
The worst part of it is that after 5 seasons we are playing with the same naivety - we just don't seem to be improving at this level.

On the bright side, at least we didn't lose to PSV.
 
Mr Ed (The Stables) said:
Our manager is clueless at this level. He's either arrogant or stupid and I'm not sure which one it is, as he just never learns from past mistakes. The failure to register another striker in the squad looks to be a fatal move. Willy could have been left out or Nasri and the young striker included.
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because Aguero got injured and we only play with one striker? Hindsight is very useful.

Maybe he shouldn't have played Aguero at Palace.
Tbilisi said:
Thought the ref had a very good game
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Our goal should not have stood.
 
Mr Ed (The Stables) said:
Our manager is clueless at this level. He's either arrogant or stupid and I'm not sure which one it is, as he just never learns from past mistakes. The failure to register another striker in the squad looks to be a fatal move. Willy could have been left out or Nasri and the young striker included.
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This , I'm afraid, is the bottom line.
If the owners are serious about winning the CL , and I think they are, in fact I think it is their ultimate aim ,then decisions have to be made now about what the best course of action is to achieve that end, and there is a manager available next summer who is obviously capable of doing so.
I like Pellegrini and respect what he has achieved for our club, but at this level , football is an unforgiving mistress.
 
blueheart84 said:
Bitterly disappointing result.

This was a Juventus team that was there for the taking, but it was the same old City when it comes to CL.
This was our chance to make a statement - and we did - but not the kind of statement we wanted to make.
The worst part of it is that after 5 seasons we are playing with the same naivety - we just don't seem to be improving at this level.

On the bright side, at least we didn't lose to PSV.
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That performance was a lot better than what I've seen against Bayern and Dortmund.

A fair amount of arrogance amongst City fans. Why should we beat these teams. They are the best in Europe. They have great players too. We might be the best in the Premiership but these other leagues have teams which totally dominate their leagues
 
Marvin said:
because Aguero got injured and we only play with one striker? Hindsight is very useful.

Maybe he shouldn't have played Aguero at Palace.

Our goal should not have stood.
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Bollocks to hindsight, it was there for all to see. Many of us commented on the fact we as a club decided to with only two senior players and a kid up top. Then our manager decides to play both Bony and Aguero at Palace effectively doubling the chances of one of them getting injured.

So being Nostradamus I predict every season Kun is at our club here on in he'll miss at least 10 games through injury, as will Vinnie. Thats not hindsight thats just being switched on.

Anyway peace blue I still think we'll qualify in the end.
 
Not sure Bony offers enough for a team at our level.

DeBruyne should have started.

Nasri should be out next season.

I think its unfair to pick out Sterling - he is young, new to the team and inexperienced at this level.

As much as I hate to say it, Silva not turning up in big games is becoming a disturbing trend.

Yaya is a liability at CL level because we refuse to play 3 mids.

At CL level the game is won and lost in the midfield and we consistently get dominated by teams that stack the midfield (mainly due to the way yaya plays - see above).

Defense played well for the most part .. they only had a couple of chances but they took them
 
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