Post Match Thread: City v Juventus

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Worrying that last season's performances might be rearing their ugly head again. West Ham will be no pushover on Saturday especially with Payet pulling the strings for them. Let's take this defeat out on them City.
 
Kenny Clements Perm said:
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I thought Ya Ya played ok. I didn't think it was a bad performance; Juventus nearly won the comp last year. We could have scored 4 and both their goals were impossible to defend.

I don't think the result will harm us
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He did okay, but we need better than that to win these type of games.

I just don't believe he has the mobility to defend in these games now.

Of course Juventus are a quality team. I always thought this would be a difficult match. I also believe we are good enough to qualify, but we need to win the group or else once again we will have to face a tough game in the last 16.
 
Cheadle Blue said:
We can't miss chances like we did last night

If sterling scores that early chance it would have been a completely different game and atmosphere

Big games need big players, and ours didn't impose themselves last night, yet again in a CL game

EVERY CL game at home, we are going to face 10 men behind the ball, so we need to come up with an answer pretty quickly
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Neville Kneville said:
We scored. Luckily, but it went in.

That's the answer rght there. We could easily, & I mean EASILY, of stopped Juve from scoring. Then picked them off on the break. We took off the player most likely to.
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I mean an answer to playing against the men behind the ball, as playing backwards and sideways certainly isn't the right one, particularly when the top teams can punish us from nowhere, as they did last night

YEs we could have easily stopped them, but we didn't, and we didn't create anywhere near enough chances, as we were to negative in my opinion
 
some very good points on this thread , but it boils dwon to one thing ..........juventus took their chances and we didnt , no need for a massive inquest , on another night we take the chances and win the game , roll on saturday.
 
Man city fan 72 said:
Worrying that last season's performances might be rearing their ugly head again. West Ham will be no pushover on Saturday especially with Payet pulling the strings for them. Let's take this defeat out on them City.
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This is absolutely my worry.

If we weren't in this competition, I think we'd win the Prem by 10-20 points. But there is no telling how our psychological block playing in this, will damage our league form. Big game Saturday.
 
jimmygrimblesboots said:
some very good points on this thread , but it boils dwon to one thing ..........juventus took their chances and we didnt , no need for a massive inquest , on another night we take the chances and win the game , roll on saturday.
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We could quite easily have adjusted our team, to make sure Juve never had those chances in the first place though. Then they are the team who has to force it & when they do, we can take them apart with players like Navas or DeBruyne & turn them over quite easily, like teams in Italy have been doing.
 
BillyShears said:
Ha. I can live with that as I'd rather feel as I do this morning (largely positive about last night and our prospects in the group) than to over react in the way many people are.
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We'd all rather be upbeat after last night but unfortunately the performance prevents most of us from doing so.
 
BillyShears said:
No neither do I. Seems a bit of a stretch considering they've won 4 Serie A's on the bounce and were CL finalists last season.

We are a better side than them but they are a top side imo.
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Time will tell whether City or Juve are the better team, as it's far too soon to judge this season's teams, but there's no doubt that Juve have been better than any English side over the past 12 months.
 
Pitchell said:
Quite frankly, I don't think this is true.
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Cuadrado and Evra starting for them, who were deemed surplus to requirements by Premier League sides. They've lost Pirlo, Vidal, Tevez from last year, and they were missing Khedira and Marchisio from last night too. 5 of last nights starting 11 were over 30 so whilst experienced also past their best. For me Chelsea are certainly better than Juventus (the start of this season is just a blip). Arsenal would give them a run for their money too.
 
Cheadle Blue said:
I mean an answer to playing against the men behind the ball, as playing backwards and sideways certainly isn't the right one, particularly when the top teams can punish us from nowhere, as they did last night

YEs we could have easily stopped them, but we didn't, and we didn't create anywhere near enough chances, as we were to negative in my opinion
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The starting point really is dead simple imo. Look at the 2nd goal Juve scored. A shot. Look at our best efforts outside the chances Sterling had. Two shots from Fernandinho, one from Yaya. When Mancini tried to park the bus vs Real Madrid & had everyone back, they just kept shooting until a few went in. We were lucky it wasn't ten. How did we score v Palace ? Nasri had a shot.

Stop Silva & Nasri from fucking about, & get DeBruyne etc to shoot instead. Then they have to come out to try & stop it, then Silva can fuck about in the space when they do.
 
Pitchell said:
Time will tell whether City or Juve are the better team, as it's far too soon to judge this season's teams, but there's no doubt that Juve have been better than any English side over the past 12 months.
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I think that is true, however with players transferred and injured, the Juve side we played last night does not appear as strong on paper as the one that has dominated Italian football for four years . A decent defense and two good strikers but how good they are only time will tell.
 
Pitchell said:
Time will tell whether City or Juve are the better team, as it's far too soon to judge this season's teams, but there's no doubt that Juve have been better than any English side over the past 12 months.
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That's hard to argue against, but the truth is its a weaker Juventus that we came up against last night than the Juventus of the past 12 months.
Their start to the league tells you that whilst ours has been flawless. It's not a stretch to think there are plenty of blues who rightly thought that they were there for the taking.
The result was down to our own undoings rather than anything great from them. The two goals, whilst excellently taken were both defendable and other than that they didn't offer much. It was our inability to stretch their back four and slow, sideways passing allowing them to get plenty of men behind the ball which gave them the chance to win the game, not anything spectacular from them.
 
Pitchell said:
Time will tell whether City or Juve are the better team, as it's far too soon to judge this season's teams, but there's no doubt that Juve have been better than any English side over the past 12 months.
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I don't think Juve would have even come close to wining the Premier League. They did really well in a cup competition then, like City, were shown up to be nowhere near the quality of the winners.
 
Neville Kneville said:
I don't think Juve would have even come close to wining the Premier League. They did really well in a cup competition then, like City, were shown up to be nowhere near the quality of the winners.
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And City were miles away from Chelsea last year, who were knocked out of the CL by a 10-man PSG, who were then rolled over by Barcelona. Quite frankly, one of the downfalls of PL clubs in the CL over the past few seasons is their misplaced arrogance, thinking that just because they have spent lots of money they are automatically a better team and don't need to adapt tactically to their opponents. That's not how it works.
 
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