Attacks in Paris

[OB1]

Of course there are, but I have some knowledge of the resources we throw at this, in places like GCHQ, and they are huge, and we are very good at it, and we have been for a long time. I doubt there are many countries in the western world as good as we are, but we'll never be perfect sadly.

We must be good at it or there would have been more incidents in the UK: this country must be high on the terrorists' hit list, 2nd only to US I would think.

 

[donachie&chadvalleybigleague]

Who is being hysterical, in your opinion? This is a pretty serious incident, isn't it? Not saying it will happen here but there's only a few miles of the English Channel between the two countries. And because the twats are going after soft targets, it doesn't take that much planning. Just a few idiots and some guns, hand grenades and holy books.

It's a terrible situation Pam. Really sad and scary that it could happen here. I was commenting on some of the suggestions that have been made on here that won't do any good at all and will cost British lives as well as add to suffering elsewhere. I don't have a solution in my back pocket. That's because it's a complex problem involving ideologies. The last thing you need is impulsive action driven by fear, pain and rage. Let's just hope that in the immediate moment careful decisions are made to save as many hostages as possible.

 

[Sir peace frog]

2 suicide bombers

 

[stony]

Coincidence that Jihadi John news was released today?

Of course it ffs. Something like this takes planning.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Coincidence that Jihadi John news was released today?

Doubt it - plans for a co-ordinated attack like this aren't knocked up in an afternoon

 

[big blue balls]

People have confirmed that the gunmen are not attempting to hide their faces, they are suicide gunmen, they know they are going to kill hundreds and will not come out alive

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

I was referring to lax immigration policy, but you knew that!

Did I? What if these people were born in Paris - does that change anything? The 7/7 bombers were all English after all.

 

[Pam]

Islam doesn't have anyone who can claim to wholly represent it, but ISIS do represent the form of Islam that they wish to promote.

The fucking Taliban would bad enough, ffs.

 

[Blue Haze]

People understandably say no wonder the Palestinians have been radicalised after what the Israelis have done to them. The same applies to many of the people in Syria, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Algeria etc after what the West has done to them. Sending bombers, troops, removing their leaders and trying to impose political solutions on them that they simply don't understand or buy into. So I certainly agree with you there.

Agreed. But the Syrian people are the victims. Most of them don't want Isis. They're impoverished, killed and raped by a nihilistic cult. It would be a mistake for us to think that Syria is a hotbed of support. All Isis needs is for one man in 10 to agree with their views and they have the manpower they need.

 

[Blue warrior]

CNN: A reporter inside the hall sayings it's a blood bath in there people hiding and texting no police visible shocking this.

 

[Blumers Bloomers]

3 dead going to watch a football match.

I cannot get my head around what I'm seeing on the TV tonight

 

[cleavers]

We must be good at it or there would have been more incidents in the UK: this country must be high on the terrorists' hit list, 2nd only to US I would think.

Correct OB1, I know for sure that our intelligence services have taken on huge numbers of people in technology areas.

 

[Pam]

Nail. Head.

Very true, unfortunately. As we all know, it is Islamaphobic to complain that people are being systematically murdered in the name of Islam. How dare anyone complain.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Agreed. But the Syrian people are the victims. Most of them don't want Isis. They're impoverished, killed and raped by a nihilistic cult. It would be a mistake for us to think that Syria is a hotbed of support. All Isis needs is for one man in 10 to agree with their views and they have the manpower they need.

It's alway the innocents who are the victims unfortunately. I'm sure the majority of Israelis and Palestinians would prefer to live in peace and harmony but the nutters on both sides set the agenda.

 

[cleavers]

Of course it ffs. Something like this takes planning.

Correct stony, this has been planned for a long time, the date can tell you that, its been carefully selected I imagine.

 

[Blumers Bloomers]

CNN: A reporter inside the hall sayings it's a blood bath in there people hiding and texting no police visible shocking this.

Why is a reporter inside the hall?

 

[worsleyweb]

Did I? What if these people were born in Paris - does that change anything? The 7/7 bombers were all English after all.

I don't think now is the time to be point scoring. Let's just hope the death toll doesn't not get any worse.

 

[dronefromsector7G]

Did I? What if these people were born in Paris - does that change anything? The 7/7 bombers were all English after all.

And yet people applaud Hollande closing the borders. What fucking good will that do?

 

[Ric]

You're right but it's too late, the apologists have already had their way.

Who are the "apologists"? And how have they "had their way"?!

 

[RandomJ]

Explosions in the concert hall.