Attacks in Paris

TCIB said:
I must say i have found Cameron to be more of a financial accountant than prime minister.
He does not seem to do very much in regards to leadership. A bit like how we got rid of Nev for Churchy when we needed a strong leader.
Not saying we need a war minded pm either just noting he is much more of the Chamberlain cut of cloth.
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With you there mate - Osbourne wants to protect British business interests by beefing up GCHQ but not its people by at least arresting the deline in actual Police numbers.

Meanwhile Dave is desperate to get his war. ISIS say that they are punishing those that attack them in SYRIA. We aren't and have not suffered a terrorist atrocity - Russia and the French are bombing in Syria and they have lost one passenger aircraft and we had Paris on Friday. As it is I suspect taht we probably get some sort of successful attack here but if that comes AFTER his airstrikes can't Cameron see that he will shoulder the blame for pursuing the airstrikes??
 
bluethrunthru said:
With you there mate - Osbourne wants to protect British business interests by beefing up GCHQ but not its people by at least arresting the deline in actual Police numbers.

Meanwhile Dave is desperate to get his war. ISIS say that they are punishing those that attack them in SYRIA. We aren't and have not suffered a terrorist atrocity - Russia and the French are bombing in Syria and they have lost one passenger aircraft and we had Paris on Friday. As it is I suspect taht we probably get some sort of successful attack here but if that comes AFTER his airstrikes can't Cameron see that he will shoulder the blame for pursuing the airstrikes??
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RAF took out 30 ISIS fighters yesterday in one air strike
 
bluethrunthru said:
With you there mate - Osbourne wants to protect British business interests by beefing up GCHQ but not its people by at least arresting the deline in actual Police numbers.

Meanwhile Dave is desperate to get his war. ISIS say that they are punishing those that attack them in SYRIA. We aren't and have not suffered a terrorist atrocity - Russia and the French are bombing in Syria and they have lost one passenger aircraft and we had Paris on Friday. As it is I suspect taht we probably get some sort of successful attack here but if that comes AFTER his airstrikes can't Cameron see that he will shoulder the blame for pursuing the airstrikes??
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The only reason we haven't "suffered a terrorist atrocity" is because intelligence has thwarted it.
 
bluethrunthru said:
With you there mate - Osbourne wants to protect British business interests by beefing up GCHQ but not its people by at least arresting the deline in actual Police numbers.

Meanwhile Dave is desperate to get his war. ISIS say that they are punishing those that attack them in SYRIA. We aren't and have not suffered a terrorist atrocity - Russia and the French are bombing in Syria and they have lost one passenger aircraft and we had Paris on Friday. As it is I suspect taht we probably get some sort of successful attack here but if that comes AFTER his airstrikes can't Cameron see that he will shoulder the blame for pursuing the airstrikes??
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We have bombed them haven't we?
 
Benarbia_is_god said:
Turkey fans chanting Alahu Akbar and booing the minute silence earlier today in their friendly against Greece.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epEXLOAjals…

How divided this world is.
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Turkish fans have always been lovable rogues - ask LUFC fans.

For this alone FIFA should be looking to get them playing behind closed doors or even banned from a tournament or two - they won't of course.
 
inchy14 said:
Can one of you who don't think we've suffered due to ISIS remind me where the majority of tourists killed in Tunisia were from?

Don't attack the fuckers cos they may start here is the biggest load of bollocks I've read on here today, and that's saying something.
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I was referring to attacks on home soil.

If you read what I put rather than going off on one you will see I do anticipate an attack whether we attack them in Syria or not. The problem I have is if that happened after we began bombing in Syria that "consummate politician" Cameron will be said to have caused it by chasing the vote to OK to bomb IS in Syria - it may be militarily or strategically correct but politically it would be inept were it to happen in that chronological order.
 
bluethrunthru said:
I was referring to attacks on home soil.

If you read what I put rather than going off on one you will see I do anticipate an attack whether we attack them in Syria or not. The problem I have is if that happened after we began bombing in Syria that "consummate politician" Cameron will be said to have caused it by chasing the vote to OK to bomb IS in Syria - it may be militarily or strategically correct but politically it would be inept were it to happen in that chronological order.
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Well he can't win either way as any leader in the current situation, don't attack first and then have an attack here or attack first and then be hit later, I'd rather do it first as eventually they'll do something here, probably already tried, and I'd rather try and diminish their capabilities.

The rest of the world needs to stand united against these cunts not leave it to one or two countries to go alone.
 
bluethrunthru said:
I was referring to attacks on home soil.

If you read what I put rather than going off on one you will see I do anticipate an attack whether we attack them in Syria or not. The problem I have is if that happened after we began bombing in Syria that "consummate politician" Cameron will be said to have caused it by chasing the vote to OK to bomb IS in Syria - it may be militarily or strategically correct but politically it would be inept were it to happen in that chronological order.
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So if ISIS issued a statement saying that attacking them in Iraq would lead to reprisals, would you suggest we remove our threat there?
 
grim up north said:
Do you honestly believe that
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No - to repeat myself if you'd care to read my original post from earlier tonight before commenting I believe its inevitable there will be an attack in London. What I am saying is at the moment ISIS say they are attacking "foes" who bomb them in Syria. We haven't so haven't been attacked by that logic. If we bomb them in Syria then the attack comes Cameron will have committed a major political faux pas.
 
CityStu said:
So if ISIS issued a statement saying that attacking them in Iraq would lead to reprisals, would you suggest we remove our threat there?
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Fucks sake does nobody read anything any more????? No I don't - I think an attack is inevitable - just think Cameron is walking onto a sucker punch
 
bluethrunthru said:
No - to repeat myself if you'd care to read my original post from earlier tonight before commenting I believe its inevitable there will be an attack in London. What I am saying is at the moment ISIS say they are attacking "foes" who bomb them in Syria. We haven't so haven't been attacked by that logic. If we bomb them in Syria then the attack comes Cameron will have committed a major political faux pas.
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Was that the video of one ISIS fighter that was doing the rounds or have their commanders sat down had a chat and said the Brits are bombing us in Iraq that's ok we will leave rhem to it and let them off this time but woe betide them if they drop one on Syria
 
bluethrunthru said:
Fucks sake does nobody read anything any more????? No I don't - I think an attack is inevitable - just think Cameron is walking onto a sucker punch
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I think he's in an impossible situation and people will (or at least should) understand that. It's morally reprehensible to leave the attacks in Syria to other nations to keep our own nose clean.
 
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