Discussion: Manuel Pellegrini 2015/16

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bluethrunthru said:
yep the Bayern Fans forums are full of fans calling for Pep to be sacked tonight and for them to appoint Ancelotti as a caretaker until the end of the season - oh no wait - they have a sense of perspective
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What a fucking stupid post. The two situations couldn't be any more different. If we were pissing the league and won our CL group then yeah Pellers wouldn't be getting both barrels. However we aren't and the "attractive attacking football" he keeps going on about has all but vanished.
 
TCIB said:
I would take that OB1 regarding parking the bus, adore his attacking mentality but even the most gung ho have to wind it in sometimes.
A bit of shrewdness and we would be rocking this league most likely.

The most galling thing is nobody is better than us, we are our own worst enemy.
Arsenal are decimated with injuries and Utd have to rely on anti footy and bore the oppo into submission.
With Aguero out or not we should be doing better.

I would be interested to know if Pellegrini wanted Bony or if this was just a "gift" given to him from Txiki.
It is almost tangible as a fact that if Bony was any good other players would pass to him more and not hesitate and look for other options.
This has to be a factor in our stuttering season, a back up striker that does not strike is indeed a rather large issue.
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I admit that I expected more from Bony. We are our own worst enemy. I love that we want to play sexy football but we aren't doing it enough and therefore I want a bit of back to basics to steady the ship.
 
If our players could stay fit, then I don't mind keeping him. When we have any of the spine missing though, I don't think he makes the necessary changes to account for it, and I don't see our players staying fit.

On that, a few of them are making me think of the Sturridge at Liverpool situation where I do wonder how injured they really are, or if Prllegrini is being too cautious with not playing them...
 
bluethrunthru said:
yep the Bayern Fans forums are full of fans calling for Pep to be sacked tonight and for them to appoint Ancelotti as a caretaker until the end of the season - oh no wait - they have a sense of perspective
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Are you seriously comparing our plight to Bayern Munich's?

The fans were singing for Pellegrini to fuck off before he was even appointed, fitting.
 
bluethrunthru said:
Well said - but this is what we have become - raggish !! The general feeling is of course they would - we are City - why would they not crawl over broken glass for the chance to be treated like our bitch to be used until the end of the season and no doubt vilified on here before being cast off like an old coat as we welcome the new Messiah - I despair at how quickly success has ruined some of us.
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The majority of managers who are out of work would jump at the chance of 5 months at City. Someone like Cappello or Hiddink could easily rebuild their reputation and no doubt walk into another top job if they deliver the goods. Add to that they will be highly paid and have a chance to challenge for major honours, they would be mad to turn it down.
 
Bayerns side today looks like how we play, slow lack of directness and pace ( the Pace we do have now isn't even utilised ) no bernat, Thiago, Costa, Alabama, Costa. Front 6 of Martinez, Alonso, Vidal ,coman, muller and Lewandoski, much easier to soak up and counter against.
 
Here, really, is my problem with this man. Now you can talk about windy conditions not favouring our game, you can talk about erroneous team selection, you can say Bony this, and Fernando that.
But not once do I remember us going in in a rocky position at half time (Liverpool, Spurs, Juventus away, today), then coming out of the blocks like mad dogs in the second half and turning the game round. And that, clearly, is a màager's job to do, when he's got the balls to do it. That is one thing that he, and he alone, can do. No one else. Over and over in their dominant years, Ferguson did exactly this with United. I hated the man, that's not the question, but he showed he could do this time and again. It's all very nice to look good when things are already going your way. It's another — and the sign of the great managers — to force things to go your way. I now don't believe that Pellegrini has that x factor, that will take us to the top.
I will never, ever be in favour of sacking a manager in mid season. It smacks of desperation to me, a last throw of the dice for teams that are seriously threated with relegation. It would be a bit odd to put us in that company. But there's no denying that Pellegrini looks utterly incapable of motivating this group of players in the way I've just described. We've got ourselves backed into a corner, really. We can't really sack Pellegrini, hire anyone genuinely class, then ship them out after six months because Pep's coming in. But we're going to look pretty stupid if, come July, Pep says "No thanks"…
 
Perhaps replace Pellegrini by a passionate fan each week on match day, would certainly have more passion, aggression and desire for a City win.
 
I am a visionary. The more I think about my VK idea, the more I like it. Going to PM @Bluwhit and get him to get Spanish Dave to pass it up the ladder.

In on the ground floor baby.
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mancity1 said:
Its certainly looking like that.

We need a massive overhaul of this squad over the next two seasons.

The players we keep relying on are always suspect to injury now and have been at the club for a number of years.

They are also decreasing in number as they get older.

Many of our squad are not good enough any more to be relied upon when we are missing these players.
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Their technical deficiencies can easily be made up for by a manager that can get them to play as a team. The majority of Stoke players are garbage yet they looked a good team today.

It is ridiculous that the players we rely on are those bought by Hughes and Mancini.
 
Expectations went through the roof with our end to last season and start to this one when the reality was we were just on a good run, we aren't a great side, but the run made people think we are.

I also think the manager thinks we are and just thinks he can shove any attacking side out and get a win when in this league, especially away from home, you have to defend first, graft and work for your wins.

This manager has no grasp on that often enough.
 
CC1 said:
Why? Lets blame Brian Marwood too!! Its a bad day at the office. Squad badly stretched now. If anyone is to blame it's Vinnie for putting country before club every time. That's if we are just going to blame anyone we can think of!!!
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The +200 million could have been spent better.

He is the one who is mainly responsible for our tranfers.
 
bluethrunthru said:
My expectation is to win everything - my realisation is that isn't likely to happen. I am a grown up so understand that there are good days and there are bad days. I have been following City for long enough to know that nothing is won or lost by December ( League Cup aside ) and I understand the game enough to know you can't be knocked out of any competition before it starts - unless that forms some part of a sanction for previous rule breaking.

You completely misunderstood the tone of my post and amply demonstrate the hysterical reactions on here - we lost a game, we are not playing well, we have loads of injuries and a manager who may not be all that. However we are still in those four competitions and the season goes until may so lets see how it all pans out yeah ? I have followed the blues for over 50 years and believe me I have seen things much much worse than today - always aimed higher and always believed things would improve. I ave never run around blubbing and stamping me feat like a spoiled brat that for sure
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Winning and losing are part of the game but losing the way we have against Stoke and Liverpool have a wide reaching stench.
I don't post with hysteria, I'm still living the dream having endured the Swales/Lee era in my youth. My concerns about Pellegrini have been aired over nearly 2 seasons.

As for acting like a spoilt brat, I don't know you so can't pass comment.
 
Hiddink said that he wouldn't refuse a chance at a top club 2 weeks ago and he had no problem managing Chelsea for 6 months only .
 
bluethrunthru said:
yep the Bayern Fans forums are full of fans calling for Pep to be sacked tonight and for them to appoint Ancelotti as a caretaker until the end of the season - oh no wait - they have a sense of perspective
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Pathetic response.

Bayern are one of the strongest sides in Europe, and are rightly one of the favourites to win the CL. They're a well structured and cohesive side of top draw players. They look the part.

We're a squad of top draw players who look and play like strangers. We're a side that has just been easily outplayed by a midtable side.

We've scored less goals than Leceister, conceded more than Stoke, and conceded as many as Watford.

We can all accept the occasional anomaly of a poor result or poor performance, but we're putting them in routinely this season. We're a third of the way through the season and we've already lost 6 times.

We do not look at it, and that is cause for concern, and not at all comparable to fucking Bayern. Who have a manager who looks like he has a clue, no less.
 
bluethrunthru said:
Well said - but this is what we have become - raggish !! The general feeling is of course they would - we are City - why would they not crawl over broken glass for the chance to be treated like our bitch to be used until the end of the season and no doubt vilified on here before being cast off like an old coat as we welcome the new Messiah - I despair at how quickly success has ruined some of us.
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This post wont be favourable to some, but iMO it is spot on.
 
Should have been sacked in the summer and I'm now finished with Manuel.the amount of muscle injuries suffered in training is shocking and the squad looks devoid of confidence! Ancelotti now please asap
 
bluethrunthru said:
Well said - but this is what we have become - raggish !! The general feeling is of course they would - we are City - why would they not crawl over broken glass for the chance to be treated like our bitch to be used until the end of the season and no doubt vilified on here before being cast off like an old coat as we welcome the new Messiah - I despair at how quickly success has ruined some of us.
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It's a very fair point, I've followed City since I was 8 (1973) I'm not convinced Mr. Guardiola will come and if he does how effective he will be, BUT given the resources we currently have, we really should be in an insurmountable position in the league at least!

In my opinion we have by far the best squad - injuries or not and should'nt be fannying about looking for excuses as to where we are currently!
 
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