Jihadi John Song

Blue Haze said:
Was there this much outrage over the Wenger is a pedophile chant?

Wouldn't it be hypocritical to find that funny but this offensive? The Wenger chant is about a living person who isn't a wanted a terrorist.
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I think a few thought it funny for a while (much like this chant) then in the cold light of day, it became apparent that it's really not so funny at all. Hence nobody sings it any more (bar a handful of fans looking to provoke).

Clearly everybody's got their own set of lines they draw, and if enough deem a chant to be the wrong side of 'decent' it won't be widely adopted.
There's nothing to be done about this current chant than let it take it's natural course - where the majority (I expect) won't adopt it and it will only exist / be brought up when a minority of fans want to draw attention to themselves. Of course I could be wrong, and it takes off massively - in which case, I'll happily remain a minority and abstain!
 
cleavers said:
At home no, I think you're right, the people involved will be too spread out for it to catch, but it was catching in the away end yesterday.

I can't say I was "offended" or "embarrassed" by it, but its still a bit ill advised for a number of reasons.

1. Its not a song for Bacary Sagna, at least not one he deserves, he's been superb for us this season, and deserves a decent song.
2. As mentioned we have a number of French players who won't want to be reminded of that nights events, some of them muslim.
3. If it increases the risk of an attack on The Etihad, City, or even Manchester, by 1/2 of 1 per cent, its 1/2 of 1 per cent too much.

Interestingly we went back to the Compleat Angler after the game, where there was a brilliant atmosphere and sing song amongst the blues who were staying over, there were a couple of efforts at getting this going, and none took off, but virtually every other good song we sing/sang got an airing, including Yaya/Kolo, one Andy Morrison, even T At O got a sing.



Anyone who lets a few, singing this rubbish, ruin their "match day experience" yesterday, really needs to get a grip.

Only just got home, we've had a brilliant weekend, watched City play great football, in a crowd that was as good as I can remember in a long time (home or away), went back to a pub and continued to celebrate until that bent ref gave a penalty to the rag diver (not that that affected the day), had great meal afterwards, finished off last night in wetherspoons at about 1am.
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Was in the Compleat Angler after the match too and as you say it was a great evening, good repertoire of City songs celebrating players old and new and the team, old and new, with fans of all ages having a ball

Was on the concourse at half time, getting a beer and saw and heard this being sung.......at that point there wasn't one single person who made a comment whether it should have been sung or not.

The song - it's never going to win the Ivor Novello award, it's not "politically correct" and if it's all people have to moan about from a great day, it shows that City obviously played well.

Social media - so much to answer for.

Cleavers - I live in Norwich now, if you're coming down in March, drop us a PM and I'll buy you a beer......in the Compleat Angler after the match of course!!
 
All you Stepford wives whining about how it's a disgrace and that those who are singing it are a disgrace need to have your bumps felt.

It's a shit song in bad taste, it doesn't mock or celebrate the death of anyone bar a notorious terrorist.

There's nothing disgraceful about it. It's merely a shit song in bad taste, one that'll hopefully soon die out and be long forgotten about.

The end.
 
Gaylord du Bois said:
Team allegiances really shouldn't come into it.
Do you really think anyone ever stopped to give a thought about the families of the victims of the Manchester blitz before they piped in with the Uwe's grandad song? Did they bollocks.
You really are confusing a shite football chant from .001% of our community with a declaration of war on the sensibilities of everyone and everything blue.
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I have no idea what your on about ?
To make it simple for you ,you see nothing wrong to sing a song about a fellow blues brother and nephew stood next to you in the ground that was beheaded by jihadi john ?
Because its funny ?
Would it be OK to sing stuff about your wife/kids stood next to you if they had died ( hopefully not) in horrendous fashion ?
 
RichardDunneOwnGoal said:
All you Stepford wives whining about how it's a disgrace and that those who are singing it are a disgrace need to have your bumps felt.

It's a shit song in bad taste, it doesn't mock or celebrate the death of anyone bar a notorious terrorist.

There's nothing disgraceful about it. It's merely a shit song in bad taste, one that'll hopefully soon die out and be long forgotten about.

The end.
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Isis are real.

Everyone in the UK is a target.

Thats the real "The end"
 
Mr Ed (The Stables) said:
Isis are real.

Everyone in the UK is a target.

Thats the real "The end"
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We're a target anyway.

We're a high profile PL club owned by a Sheikh from the UAE - people IS despise as they see as not proper Muslims, being in bed with the US, and suppressing the likes of the Muslim Brotherhood.

If you think a shit song sang by a minority of piss pots at a game makes a whole lot of difference then you were clearly in the dark as to the threat posed to us anyway.

The threat is real, accept it or don't. I think it's stupid to get into a fearful panic about this song.
 
mrtwiceaseason said:
I have no idea what your on about ?
To make it simple for you ,you see nothing wrong to sing a song about a fellow blues brother and nephew stood next to you in the ground that was beheaded by jihadi john ?
Because its funny ?
Would it be OK to sing stuff about your wife/kids stood next to you if they had died ( hopefully not) in horrendous fashion ?
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Hyperbolic doesn't even begin to cover it.
 
I totally agree with the OP and all others who have condemned this idiotic 'song'. There is no place for such shit among football chants and I hope that if the wanker who started it tries to get it going in the future, someone points out the error of his or her ways.

I can't imagine Bacary would be very happy to know that such a exists , considering how he was affected by the events in Paris on that terrible night.

Just don't sing it!
 
jrb said:
Read what I wrote.

I don't have a concern. I'm just taking part in the debate. :--)

This is a free country. People can sing what they want. When they sing racist songs, etc, that break the law, the Police, Stewards, and club now get involved.

As for the club? We all know there are certain parts of the media that love to bash the club. They 'may' use this song as an excuse to have another go at the club and the fans. Both are related.Then again they may not.

I'm not going to lie. During my early years just like 1000's of City fans at MR( the old Kippax) and at the Etihad to a lesser extent, I used to sing "Who's that dieing on the runway".

I'm 48. In the 80's and 90's City fan's didn't think twice sbout singing that song. Football and the fan mindset was completely different then.
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Being roughly the same age, I'm amazed at how cowed we have become as a population. Brainwashed into feeling guilty in this instance for singing a song celebrating the death of a piece of shit from a evil organisation. It seems it we are doing their job for them.
 
The original song by the WHU fans I'm sure was sung around the country and I'm sure there were plenty of songs celebrating around the USA when bin laden was got, whether at football games or in the bars.
But this is no longer terrorism, this is a war that won't end in our lifetime. There are hundreds of Brits over there committing horrendous atrocities and thousands more in the UK who would if they could and this is typical around Europe and the world.

Sorry for posting my view, I'd rather be chatting about football.
 
VOOMER said:
Being roughly the same age, I'm amazed at how cowed we have become as a population. Brainwashed into feeling guilty in this instance for singing a song celebrating the death of a piece of shit from a evil organisation. It seems it we are doing their job for them.
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Bloody hell......you have totally missed the point....I see that you have actually not got a clue about the issue here.
 
VOOMER said:
Being roughly the same age, I'm amazed at how cowed we have become as a population. Brainwashed into feeling guilty in this instance for singing a song celebrating the death of a piece of shit from a evil organisation. It seems it we are doing their job for them.
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It's not really a celebration though is it? it's just a daft chant of stuff and nonsense that just happens to be about Jihadi John. It's not at thought someone's really sat down, and put pen to paper to offer a well considered riposte to Isis. Arguably that's why so many of us aren't enamoured with the chant - simply because it's not some heartfelt message, it's just a silly chant.

There would be a markedly different response from many fans were it a properly thought out action. Even so, it would seem that large numbers of supporters would rather just not mix football and politics at all.

I think we need to stop confusing this chant with something deep and meaningful. It's just a childish ditty that seemingly entertained a fair few fans for a short while, but in the cold light of day is a bit naff. I don't think anybody's really believed it was meant to be offensive, and probably many have taken offence too easily too, but I think most of those who did chant it would be hard pressed to justify continuing it. We've got a far better chants, and there'll be far wittier and more apt ones to come (I hope!)
 
FanchesterCity said:
it's just a daft chant of stuff and nonsense that just happens to be about Jihadi John.
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Sadly, those who created it, did so about Bacary Sagna, a City player, no one on here gives a shit about jihadi john (a media inspired name anyway, and not his).

Bacary has been great for us this season, and deserves a song, but not this one.
 
FanchesterCity said:
I think a few thought it funny for a while (much like this chant) then in the cold light of day, it became apparent that it's really not so funny at all. Hence nobody sings it any more (bar a handful of fans looking to provoke).

Clearly everybody's got their own set of lines they draw, and if enough deem a chant to be the wrong side of 'decent' it won't be widely adopted.
There's nothing to be done about this current chant than let it take it's natural course - where the majority (I expect) won't adopt it and it will only exist / be brought up when a minority of fans want to draw attention to themselves. Of course I could be wrong, and it takes off massively - in which case, I'll happily remain a minority and abstain!
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A few sang it in the ground at Norwich for a few minutes, but it didn't take. Those around me looked at each other with a 'what's that all about' expression on their faces, and that was that.

5 or 6 young lads in their 20's were belting it out outside the ground before the game, having a whale of a time, but I thought what has Sagna got to do with bombs being dropped.

I don't think it will be a classic terrace chant anytime soon. Too many people seemed uncomfortable listening to it.
 
Bilboblue said:
Are you so retarded you don't know who the song is about, seriously???
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Read the post before posting shit like that I'm very aware who the song is about are you aware you stand next to his victims family in the south stand,??
Enjoy singing it !!!!!
 
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Theres some very sheltered people around these days. Gotta be pretty sad to offended or worried by some lads singing that. As for the lad saying it might make us a target get a grip ffs.
 
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