No I get that and I know they see them on the training ground week in week out and are in a much better position to pass judgement than fans but sometimes it takes 1st team games to see their real ability. From a few games i've seen this year; Suarez has played pretty decent and thats for Villarreal who are currently 10 points clear of 5th in Spain. Only have to look at Pogba to realise the mistakes you can make not giving youth players the chance to play.
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No I get that and I know they see them on the training ground week in week out and are in a much better position to pass judgement than fans but sometimes it takes 1st team games to see their real ability. From a few games i've seen this year; Suarez has played pretty decent and thats for Villarreal who are currently 10 points clear of 5th in Spain. Only have to look at Pogba to realise the mistakes you can make not giving youth players the chance to play.
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It would be nice to think that there may be 4 or 5 playing in games like that in 2 or 3 years time?So? Denayer is an international fullback. He's played in the champions league.
And if the other two came into the squad, an away game against one of those teams isn't going to be their first game is it?
You're acting like we'd throw them into that game _now_, when actually they'd have loads of playing time for the first team at that point.
And that would be a worst case scenario anyway.
I rate Angelino very highly, believe he can be very good given the chance and the right coaching, reminds me of Alba. Think he can learn alot of Clichy as they are quite similar in alot of aspects. The way clichy intercepts the ball is something Angelino can take off him. Angelino however can attack so much better and his crossing ability is incomparable. Plus he has the pace to recover defensively as well.
I love that idea but if we had injuries you could end up with Maffeo, Denayer and Angelino all playing in a Champions League tie against Real Madrid, Barcelona or Bayern Munich away which is just too much at once. It's just about getting the balance right and allowing young players to develop, at their own pace.
A month ago everyone were saying we won't be able to cope without buying a new striker and now we currently have Kun in possibly the best form of his life and Kelechi who has out scored £32 million Benteke and £61.5 million Anthony Martial and in a 3rd of the playing time.
A month ago everyone were saying we won't be able to cope without buying a new striker and now we currently have Kun in possibly the best form of his life and Kelechi who has out scored £32 million Benteke and £61.5 million Anthony Martial and in a 3rd of the playing time.
There's a huge difference integrating one young player and four, that's all I'm saying. I'm absolutely in favour of them all being in the squad along with Garcia, Roberts and Barker and probably a few others I've failed to mention.
If they're all you've got as backup, which is what the previous poster was suggesting then 3, 4 or 5 injuries and you're suddenly relying on inexperienced kids to win potentially four competitions.
There's a huge difference integrating one young player and four, that's all I'm saying. I'm absolutely in favour of them all being in the squad along with Garcia, Roberts and Barker and probably a few others I've failed to mention.
If they're all you've got as backup, which is what the previous poster was suggesting then 3, 4 or 5 injuries and you're suddenly relying on inexperienced kids to win potentially four competitions.
I'm not entirely following you and I have no idea what previous post your relating too
That being said I refered to having 2 young homegrown understudies both of which have been part of the first team training sessions for some time know and hopefully by the end of the season will have experienced first team football and Angelino could have proved his first team credentials by then.
As for Denayer I don't consider him a youth player being promoted as he is already a fully fledged international with both league and Champions league experience so he is more like a new signing or even re signing a player.
I'm not entirely following you and I have no idea what previous post your relating too
That being said I refered to having 2 young homegrown understudies both of which have been part of the first team training sessions for some time know and hopefully by the end of the season will have experienced first team football and Angelino could have proved his first team credentials by then.
As for Denayer I don't consider him a youth player being promoted as he is already a fully fledged international with both league and Champions league experience so he is more like a new signing or even re signing a player.
If you can't be arsed reading what my post was in response too then there's no point in continuing the discussion is there.
If you can't be arsed reading what my post was in response too then there's no point in continuing the discussion is there.
The reason why I said I have know idea what previous comment was because you replied to my post!
The reason why I said I have know idea what previous comment was because you replied to my post!
To be fair I hadn't realised it was you, my bad. But surely you should know what it was in response to if you wrote the original post I was replying to, haha!! I wouldn't mind I've not even had a drink.
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I wouldn't liken him to Clichy, I'd say he's more similar to Kolarov. He's like a far more technically gifted Kolarov IMO.I rate Angelino very highly, believe he can be very good given the chance and the right coaching, reminds me of Alba. Think he can learn alot of Clichy as they are quite similar in alot of aspects. The way clichy intercepts the ball is something Angelino can take off him. Angelino however can attack so much better and his crossing ability is incomparable. Plus he has the pace to recover defensively as well.
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Ideal little run out for his first City senior game imo. I think Pellegrini got it right there just giving him a taster rather than throwing him in from the start. He got skinned within about 5 seconds but then looked comfortable & decent strength. Pity Barker wasn't on with him at the time to put him in behind when he ran forward.
Be nice to get him on the bench now, & get him on again for 20-30 mins if we find we are comfortable in a game, or alternatively bring him on as left mid in a game we are looking to close out & hit on the counter.
Be nice to get him on the bench now, & get him on again for 20-30 mins if we find we are comfortable in a game, or alternatively bring him on as left mid in a game we are looking to close out & hit on the counter.
Ideal little run out for his first City senior game imo. I think Pellegrini got it right there just giving him a taster rather than throwing him in from the start. He got skinned within about 5 seconds but then looked comfortable & decent strength. Pity Barker wasn't on with him at the time to put him in behind when he ran forward.
Be nice to get him on the bench now, & get him on again for 20-30 mins if we find we are comfortable in a game, or alternatively bring him on as left mid in a game we are looking to close out & hit on the counter.
He's been on the bench for the last few games because of Kolarov's injury, so he's there available if we're ever in a good position to bring him on.
I think the news about pep today is going to be going down rather well at the campus. Angelino, Garcia and Denayer will flourish with pep in charge
I think it may well be good for them THIS season as well.
Managers like to leave little legacies and it's quite common for managers who know they are leaving to give out a load of debuts or bring a few youth players through.
Pellegrini said he heard a month ago...since then he's given out about 4 debuts and Ineanchos game time has gone through the roof - although admittedly Bony's injury helped.
With the crazy number of games we are playing and the stretched squad, it wouldn't surprise me to see Pellers get a bit more adventurous. He knows he's leaving now anyway.
First time I've seen Angelino since before he went on loan to NYC and didn't really notice much of an improvement in him at all today. Doesn't look to have progressed. I'm not sure if that's down to the quality of the league he was playing in or whether this is the ceiling of his development but a real shame for me as our first team options at left back are weak in comparison to other positions.
Dissapointed he hasn't gone down to London tomorrow. Had an ok game today but you can see he has quality.
We have 2 fit left backs, it's pretty much he only position which we're at full strength in. Didn't think he looked particularly good at LW today.
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And we only have 1 RB who better not get tired before uCLWe have 2 fit left backs, it's pretty much he only position which we're at full strength in. Didn't think he looked particularly good at LW today.
And we only have 1 RB who better not get tired before uCL
No we have 2. Sagna is back.
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