Report that Guardiola plans to sell Silva [according to Twitter ITK]

domalino said:
He seemed back to normal on the ball - weaving in and out of players and challenges, but lacked the final ball. Don't know how much to put that down to Spurs- they do have the best defence in the league I suppose, so it's to be expected they'd struggle.
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Did you notice the ball he played for Clichy for the goal mate? That was the classic Silva pass, I'd bet he's played more of those passes that have led to goals than actual assists. I thought he played some excellent through balls in the second half, but he clearly looked a long way short of being fully fit.
 
I think Pep will make a lot less changes to the squad than most people expect (or hope). To me the most notable thing he has done at Bayern has been to teach many players to play in different positions, to the point of making the team almost immune to injuries. I think he will do the same for City, so we will find old players in new roles next season.
And as for the amount of running he will demand from his players. Well at Bayern there is room for Alonso who is even less mobile than Yaya. It is more a question about how you run than about how much I think. The players that will go will be the ones who cannot follow the elaborate tactical plan of the master. Silva is such an intelligent player that I think he will not have any problems adopting. But probably not in the position we expect.
Surely Pep will also be buying players and I fully expect Yaya to leave.
 
If I tweeted that I was "ITK" and had heard a report that Pep was going to sell Kun, David, Vincent, KDB and Hart and build a team around Bony and Mangala, how many folk would believe it?

Would it be worthy of discussion?

Of course it wouldn't.

Who bothers with this nonsense on the internet?

JJ
 
Would be gutted if Merlin was sold but gotta trust pep I guess! Merlin out Isco in I could handle thoigh
 
Pete Campbell said:
Our main weakness is at central midfield and I think Pep will make it a priority to overhaul that and no coincidence that Pogba and Busquetts have been the most linked players with us since Pep's announcement.
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Well, in fairness neither have been the most linked to us since the announcement. Pogba was linked to us more before the announcement and less after. Busquet was linked via an interview he gave. In my opinion, the interview was more of a ' I love Pep' than a 'I think I might be joining Ciry' article.

Especially in light of the fact that the tabloids purposely took his statements out of context, or better put, intentionally reported them in an incomplete manner.

Wiegl, Sane, Xhaka, Stones and Laporte would however fall in that category of being moat linked to us with specific regards to Pep.
 
FCBarca said:
Nonsense right back at ya.

One, you'll find out soon enough when Pep takes over but he does not make a habit of divulging his plans to many people nevermind broadcasting it through ITK tweetbots - never happening.

Two, nothing in what you wrote refuted what I said about Silva & Nasri.

Three, Robben was not a disciplinary problem like Nasri has been and Samir has never reached Robben's levels as a player...ever. Daft to even compare the two and I don't even like Arjen Robben.
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My friend, you will quickly learn that Sheal has a weak understanding of how arguments work, and what the limit of an argument is.

He would draw you into his own preconceived beliefs and accuse U of positions you never espoused simply because you didn't state up front that you don't subscribe to them.

Discussions with Shael can be quite frustrating. Not to mention his penchant for insulting without understanding. Overall, schooling him is always a thrill.

Oh, you can expect to be accused of being someone else. Another Shael 'go to' move.

My advice, enjoy the exchange. You are unlikely to learn anything. But the process I find is worth the effort. :)
 
Pablo1 said:
I keep hearing this about not having sentiment and other similar statements.
Keeping Silva isn't sentiment, it's keeping one of the best players in his position in Europe.
I imagine he'll very much be a part of our first 11.
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Not anymore he isn't mate.

Put it this way, if Silva was currently at another club and had been as mediocre as he has this season, would anyone on here be salivating over the thought of signing him this Summer?

He's still a good player. He'll always be a fucking legend but his best days are behind him and you cannot build an elite team around that.
 
Stoned Rose said:
Not anymore he isn't mate.

Put it this way, if Silva was currently at another club and had been as mediocre as he has this season, would anyone on here be salivating over the thought of signing him this Summer?

He's still a good player. He'll always be a fucking legend but his best days are behind him and you cannot build an elite team around that.
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He's been mediocre for three months, was exceptional for the first two and knowing what he's capable of, I'd be buzzing if we were signing somebody with his ability.
I disagree that his best days are behind him. He's 30, doesn't rely on pace and plays in a way that could see him have another 2 years at the very top if his ankle problems can be sorted.
You don't have to build an elite team around him, you do have to include him if you want your team to be elite though.
 
Dax777 said:
My friend, you will quickly learn that Sheal has a weak understanding of how arguments work, and what the limit of an argument is.

He would draw you into his own preconceived beliefs and accuse U of positions you never espoused simply because you didn't state up front that you don't subscribe to them.

Discussions with Shael can be quite frustrating. Not to mention his penchant for insulting without understanding. Overall, schooling him is always a thrill.

Oh, you can expect to be accused of being someone else. Another Shael 'go to' move.

My advice, enjoy the exchange. You are unlikely to learn anything. But the process I find is worth the effort. :)
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Cheers for the post & advice
 
Jazzman said:
I think Pep will make a lot less changes to the squad than most people expect (or hope). To me the most notable thing he has done at Bayern has been to teach many players to play in different positions, to the point of making the team almost immune to injuries. I think he will do the same for City, so we will find old players in new roles next season.
And as for the amount of running he will demand from his players. Well at Bayern there is room for Alonso who is even less mobile than Yaya. It is more a question about how you run than about how much I think. The players that will go will be the ones who cannot follow the elaborate tactical plan of the master. Silva is such an intelligent player that I think he will not have any problems adopting. But probably not in the position we expect.
Surely Pep will also be buying players and I fully expect Yaya to leave.
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I think Pep is going to divide a lot of people on here because he demands belief in his ways even if they don't appear to work. It's a bit similar to Pellegrini but Pep does have the ability to change things to win a game rather than believing something will work no matter what. Every week though I think everyone on here is going to be saying what is that team all about and it will be because Pep will decide his team on merits and how someone can play his gameplan rather than just choosing the best players every week.

You can expect players like Sergio and whatnot to have to really step up because he doesn't care how much they cost or who they are, they have to be at their best or they won't be playing. You might see players like Nacho starting games if Sergio isn't scoring and many on here won't like that. Nacho is our most in form striker at the minute yet he is still being used as an impact sub, with Aguero's current form under Pep he might find himself on the bench.

A key part of Barcelona's success was driving in a 'you work hard or go home mentality' and it forced many players out from the off. Ibrahimovic and Ronaldinho for example were great players but both of them were gone as soon as Pep realize he couldn't work with them. Yaya was a bit different, he wanted to play every game and Pep preferred Busquets which caused that friction, I don't think it's as cut and dry though that he will just be out due to the past. He might be seen differently but then I think if the right offer comes in the summer he will take it anyway.

The first thing Pep needs to do is sort our midfield and add some discipline. Both Yaya, Fernando and Fernadinho have been all over the place the last few games. We need an Alonso or a Yaya of a few years ago who just stands behind play and dictates our attacks. We don't need someone to go bombing into the box or anything like that leaving us wide open to the counter, patience is one thing that we have really missed and it is the one thing a team under Pep will have.

Every game recently has been about desperately trying to score whilst playing against 11 players behind the ball. We went 1-0 down early to Leicester and then battered them for the rest of the first half. Had we been patient and kept going whilst keeping a lid on their counters we might of had some luck. Instead we lost discipline and this got them a 2nd and 3rd through stupid goals to concede. Arsenal were the same at the weekend and went 1-0 down but on the other hand they kept it tight and kept up the pressure and they were rewarded in the end.. For us - same thing at the weekend, we managed to get it back to 1-1 but instead of at least seeing out the draw we pile forwards looking for the winner and lose the game because of discipline.... Eriksens goal summed up the season for me and why we cannot win the title under this manager.
 
Pablo1 said:
He's been mediocre for three months, was exceptional for the first two and knowing what he's capable of, I'd be buzzing if we were signing somebody with his ability.
I disagree that his best days are behind him. He's 30, doesn't rely on pace and plays in a way that could see him have another 2 years at the very top if his ankle problems can be sorted.
You don't have to build an elite team around him, you do have to include him if you want your team to be elite though.
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I actually don't think Silva has been mediocre this year, rather he hasn't been dominant. And contrary to popular opinion, the lack of dominance did not start after the layoff.

He had a 'best player in the league' type performance against West Brom, after that game he occilated BTW average and good. Then he got injured. The World class performance against WBA and a scintillating start to the season from City, blurred the 2.

Personally I'm of the opinion that City needs a new star or 2 to build there team around. And Silva can play support to those guys. Our team used to be built on Yaya, Silva and Aguero offensively. I think it's time to reorganize that 3 from next season.

I think Aguero and DeBryune will form 2 of the new 3. We need a 3rd and Silva can take up a role of supporting the new 3.

Really, the best way to view Silva would be like Iniesta at Barca. For a few years Barca offensively was built on Messi, Xavi and Iniesta. Then they evolved. Now they are built on the MSN trio. Yet Iniesta is still a starter, but not as important to the teams ability to win.

I want a similar role for Silva next season. I think Aguero and DeBryune are 2 of the 3. We need a 3rd superstar the team is built on, with Silva being the great player the team doesn't have to rely on.

Who that 3rd player is, I don't know. Isco seems a great fit. Might be Pogba. Maybe Neymar or even Dybala. But we need that youthful superstar infusion.

But that's my view. I'd be disappointed if we are still mostly dependent on Silva next season as the team's orchestrator.
 
Dax777 said:
I actually don't think Silva has been mediocre this year, rather he hasn't been dominant. And contrary to popular opinion, the lack of dominance did not start after the layoff.

He had a 'best player in the league' type performance against West Brom, after that game he occilated BTW average and good. Then he got injured. The World class performance against WBA and a scintillating start to the season from City, blurred the 2.

Personally I'm of the opinion that City needs a new star or 2 to build there team around. And Silva can play support to those guys. Our team used to be built on Yaya, Silva and Aguero offensively. I think it's time to reorganize that 3 from next season.

I think Aguero and DeBryune will form 2 of the new 3. We need a 3rd and Silva can take up a role of supporting the new 3.

Really, the best way to view Silva would be like Iniesta at Barca. For a few years Barca offensively was built on Messi, Xavi and Iniesta. Then they evolved. Now they are built on the MSN trio. Yet Iniesta is still a starter, but not as important to the teams ability to win.

I want a similar role for Silva next season. I think Aguero and DeBryune are 2 of the 3. We need a 3rd superstar the team is built on, with Silva being the great player the team doesn't have to rely on.

Who that 3rd player is, I don't know. Isco seems a great fit. Might be Pogba. Maybe Neymar or even Dybala. But we need that youthful superstar infusion.

But that's my view. I'd be disappointed if we are still mostly dependent on Silva next season as the team's orchestrator.
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You think dybala is as good as sterling? Christ.
 
Stoned Rose said:
Not anymore he isn't mate.

Put it this way, if Silva was currently at another club and had been as mediocre as he has this season, would anyone on here be salivating over the thought of signing him this Summer?

He's still a good player. He'll always be a fucking legend but his best days are behind him and you cannot build an elite team around that.
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Not sure that he is finished I reckon he could have 2 or 3 years left at the top as he has only recently turned 30. His future under Pep may well be decided by who he wants to bring in and/or bids from other clubs which are too good to turn down. I would imagine you would still get a good few bob for Silva in the market. Personally I hope he gets his ankle sorted out(a long rest missing the Euro's would be a good start) and is retained and makes a meaningful contribution to the cause over the next couple of seasons.
 
Pp
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
No, you just omitted him entirely... anyway, you applying for the Madrid post?
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No.
As to the topic at hand. The subject of my post was Silva, and the role I'd like him to have in our squad next season. Ie akin to Iniesta's at Barca. As a side note I reckoned Aguero and DeBryune will form 2 of the 3 our offense will be built on. Based loosely on their level of production the last 3 years and their age ( I.e. in their prime age 25 and 28 respectively at the beginning of next season.) Sterling was not germane to that discussion.

Could he be the 3rd? Possibly. But since I concluded I didn't know who that should be, and mused about a few names who could come in, this says nothing one way or the other about Sterling.

Is Dybala better than Sterling for City? I don't know. But I'd sure be happier to have them both here to find out.
 
From what I have gathered our new manager likes his players to work all the time.
If any player is unable or unwilling to do this then will he play them ¿ Probably not.

Secondly he seems to be able to improve some players by using them in a different position rather than accepting that say a fullback can only play that position.

He will undoubtedly improve our team but I would like to think he will recognise the quality in David and find a way to allow it be integrated into his new culture.
 
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