Report that Guardiola plans to sell Silva [according to Twitter ITK]

[Shaelumstash]

One, Pep isn't divulging his plans to anyone so there are no ITK reports to be made. Two, Silva's future at City is far safer than say Nasri who represent the polar opposites of the sort of midfielder Pep prefers

Nonesense. Fernando is the polar opposite of what Pep prefers. A player who doesn't want the ball, and who only plays square or backwards. He likes midfielders with brilliant technique who look forwards and make difficult passes look easy.

People thought Robben was finished at Bayern when Pep got there. He doesn't press enough, doesn't work hard enough. The thing is, he's a supremely gifted footballer, Pep had faith in him and helped to improve the defensive side of his game.

I expect the same thing with Nasri. He's a very gifted footballer technically, can play in a variety of positions, plays attacking minded passes and never gives the ball away. If anything, I'd say he's our MOST suitable Pep style player.

Clearly he'll have to improve his work rate and defensive discipline, but if Robben can, there's absolutely no reason why Nasri can't.

People are becoming a bit obsessed with this idea that all Pep's players have to press. People are forgetting that it's more important that Pep's players have to be supremely gifted technical footballers to be able to play for him.

You can teach a technical player to work hard, but it's much harder to teach a hard working player to be technical. I think Nasri will be an important player for us next season. In possession, he's the closest thing we'll find to an Iniesta. Out of possession, there's plenty of room for improvement, and I expect to see a lot of it under Pep!

 

[FCBarca]

Nonsense right back at ya.

One, you'll find out soon enough when Pep takes over but he does not make a habit of divulging his plans to many people nevermind broadcasting it through ITK tweetbots - never happening.

Two, nothing in what you wrote refuted what I said about Silva & Nasri.

Three, Robben was not a disciplinary problem like Nasri has been and Samir has never reached Robben's levels as a player...ever. Daft to even compare the two and I don't even like Arjen Robben.

 

[Shaelumstash]

Nonsense right back at ya.

One, you'll find out soon enough when Pep takes over but he does not make a habit of divulging his plans to many people nevermind broadcasting it through ITK tweetbots - never happening.

Two, nothing in what you wrote refuted what I said about Silva & Nasri.

Three, Robben was not a disciplinary problem like Nasri has been and Samir has never reached Robben's levels as a player...ever. Daft to even compare the two and I don't even like Arjen Robben.

Double nonesense.

You said Nasri repesents "the polar opposite of the kind of midfielder Pep prefers". That's the biggest load of bullshit I've ever heard on here.

What I think you meant was, technically Nasri repesents exactly the kind of player Pep prefers, but out of possession he has a lot of improvement to make to be a success under Pep.

Robben was not a disciplinary problem?! I'm not sure if you're joking?

 

[madden150]

Nonesense. Fernando is the polar opposite of what Pep prefers. A player who doesn't want the ball, and who only plays square or backwards. He likes midfielders with brilliant technique who look forwards and make difficult passes look easy.

People thought Robben was finished at Bayern when Pep got there. He doesn't press enough, doesn't work hard enough. The thing is, he's a supremely gifted footballer, Pep had faith in him and helped to improve the defensive side of his game.

I expect the same thing with Nasri. He's a very gifted footballer technically, can play in a variety of positions, plays attacking minded passes and never gives the ball away. If anything, I'd say he's our MOST suitable Pep style player.

Clearly he'll have to improve his work rate and defensive discipline, but if Robben can, there's absolutely no reason why Nasri can't.

People are becoming a bit obsessed with this idea that all Pep's players have to press. People are forgetting that it's more important that Pep's players have to be supremely gifted technical footballers to be able to play for him.

You can teach a technical player to work hard, but it's much harder to teach a hard working player to be technical. I think Nasri will be an important player for us next season. In possession, he's the closest thing we'll find to an Iniesta. Out of possession, there's plenty of room for improvement, and I expect to see a lot of it under Pep!

It all depends with Nasri as Pep wants players that primarily will keep the ball and he can do that. Technically Nasri is a gifted footballer yes, but his attitude and defensive work rate isn't near good enough for a Pep side. I hope Pep can improve this but if his attitude stays the same he'll be a goner!!

 

[FCBarca]

Double nonesense.

You said Nasri repesents "the polar opposite of the kind of midfielder Pep prefers". That's the biggest load of bullshit I've ever heard on here.

Still nonsense since you failed to point out how it's untrue. Does Pep like lazy midfielders? Does Pep like midfielders that chirp to the press, even through their spouse/GFs? Does Pep like poor attitudes in his midfielders that see them kicked off the team ala Deschamps? I think you might want to park your load of BS right here then

What I think you meant was, technically Nasri repesents exactly the kind of player Pep prefers, but out of possession he has a lot of improvement to make to be a success under Pep.

Robben was not a disciplinary problem?! I'm not sure if you're joking?

Takes more than technical ability to work under Pep, Fabregas says hello

Not sure if you're joking, I said wasn't a disciplinary problem like Nasri - not a diver

 

[Shaelumstash]

It all depends with Nasri as Pep wants players that primarily will keep the ball and he can do that. Technically Nasri is a gifted footballer yes, but his attitude and defensive work rate isn't near good enough for a Pep side. I hope Pep can improve this but if his attitude stays the same he'll be a goner!!

I completely agree with you mate. Technically, Nasri is taylor made for a Pep team. Without the ball, he has a huge amount of improving to do.

But as I said earlier, it was widely reported that Pep was going to get rid of Robben when he turned up at Bayern because he didn't do enough defensively, he was too selfish, not a team player.

Instead Pep worked with him, coached him on the defensive side of his game and moulded him in to a player suited to his style of play. There's no reason why the same thing can't happen with Nasri.

 

[Shaelumstash]

Still nonsense since you failed to point out how it's untrue. Does Pep like lazy midfielders? Does Pep like midfielders that chirp to the press, even through their spouse/GFs? Does Pep like poor attitudes in his midfielders that see them kicked off the team ala Deschamps? I think you might want to park your load of BS right here then




Takes more than technical ability to work under Pep, Fabregas says hello

Not sure if you're joking, I said wasn't a disciplinary problem like Nasri - not a diver

Have you changed your name from Dax to FCBarca? Previously Pell Over Pep? Serious question.

 

[FCBarca]

Have you changed your name from Dax to FCBarca? Previously Pell Over Pep? Serious question.

Always been FCBarca

 

[Heart.net]

Always been FCBarca

The same FCBarca from ragcafe?

 

[Chappie]

What a fucking racket sports journalism is. Getting paid to sit there and make stuff up. Sad cunts.

We have the same problem on this forum and our posters dont get paid for the bull they spout !!!!!

 

[Phil1]

Have you changed your name from Dax to FCBarca? Previously Pell Over Pep? Serious question.

Tbf mate he's always been FCBarca and from reading his posts on redcafe (I'm sure it's the same) he always seems fair and balanced.
As for the subject matter - Nasri has got a future if he wants it. As Tolmie alluded to, the big problem would be shifting his wage if trying to sell and unless China were interested I doubt many would take the risk with him. He's got the tools to be a success under pep, the question is has he the application.

 

[FCBarca]

The same FCBarca from ragcafe?

Lo mismo

 

[Shaelumstash]

Tbf mate he's always been FCBarca and from reading his posts on redcafe (I'm sure it's the same) he always seems fair and balanced.
As for the subject matter - Nasri has got a future if he wants it. As Tolmie alluded to, the big problem would be shifting his wage if trying to sell and unless China were interested I doubt many would take the risk with him. He's got the tools to be a success under pep, the question is has he the application.

Fair enough, just his posting style reminded me of Dax. As I and other posters have said, there is a great parallel with Robben. Many said he didn't have the team ethic, the work rate, the mentality to work under Pep. Many said he would be first out of the door. But that's the thing that separates Guardiola as a coach from anyone else for me, he improves players, he take their ability and technique and he moulds them in to a player who expresses himself with the ball, but puts a shift in for the team without it.

I see no reason why Nasri, Silva, all of our talented players wouldn't follow this guy's lead and learn and improve from him. He's the best in the business. As big as Nasri's ego is, it's not big enough to not be willing to learn and improve from Pep Guardiola.

 

[FantasyIreland]

Have you changed your name from Dax to FCBarca? Previously Pell Over Pep? Serious question.

Pell over pep is a reincarnation whose name escapes me at present.

 

[Burtonblue]

I think Peo will ask an awful lot more physically from his players compared to Pellegrini.
There will be masses of work on fitness and he will look at them to press the ball much much more than we have done under Mancini or Pelkegrini.
Those who can't hack the extra work will go.
Yaya and Kolrov are a cert. I have doubts if Nasri will survive in this environment given the likes of Silva and KDB will probably get the nod as our "luxury playmakers".

 

[Robanompivenov]

No it wasn't sarcasm, I think Silva has the intelligence and passing ability to play that role.

It was more the final line where pratically our whole midfield is due to be sold!

 

[Jonathan1979]

I think Sterling, Silva and KDB are certainties in midfield. And then it will come down to the pulling power of Pep/Man City.
There are a lot of players that may not be first choice under Pep, but who can prove to be very useful over the course of a long PL season (Delph, Fernando, Fernandinho, Nasri, who knows,..)

If the press is anything to go on (and I know it usually isn't) , I'd say a Pogba to Barça, Busquets to Man City deal may be in the making.
Like it was mentioned before somewhere in this thread, the only certainty seems Yaya leaving. China maybe?

 

[BlueS]

The only critism of Dave, over the years, has been his incapability to grow a proper beard. What's with the bum fluff Silva? #SilvaOut

 

[Big Yaya Wilko 12]

That miss at the death yesterday was painful. It seemed to sum up his form at the minute.

Seemed a bit more like his normal self though, yesterday.

Aguero, on the other hand. . .

 

[domalino]

That miss at the death yesterday was painful. It seemed to sum up his form at the minute.

Seemed a bit more like his normal self though, yesterday.

Aguero, on the other hand. . .

He seemed back to normal on the ball - weaving in and out of players and challenges, but lacked the final ball. Don't know how much to put that down to Spurs- they do have the best defence in the league I suppose, so it's to be expected they'd struggle.