Media bias for FourFourTwo

[Deleted member 58678]

Spot on.

Years ago when I was on holiday and chatted with fans of other clubs their reaction to City was generally very positive.

After we supposedly won the lottery with the move to The Etihad their reaction changed a little but was generally still good. When Thaskin took over I'd say the reaction became slightly negative.

After Sheikh Mansour took over it became very negative partly fueled by the media. No great shock about that: Chelsea suffered the same fate for a while but then became accepted by all apart from unsurprisingly Spurs fans!

The big difference between ourselves and Chelsea is that the media have increased their attacks on us the more successful we've become. Nowadays other fans are openly hostile. Most genuinely believe we get 34,000 every week and Sheikh Mansour buys the other 20,000 tickets. Read some of the posts on Villa Talk about us. Villa, the worst supported of all the big clubs FFS.

Most believe all our sponsorship deals are bogus and we outspend every other club in the world on transfer fees and wages.

If the stories are consistently negative and contain consistent lies and half truths (£49m for Sterling for example) why wouldn't they hate us?

In their shoes I probably would. It has to stop.

I've come across fans of other clubs at cup finals, on holiday, at away games who are clearly not hostile towards our money and success in any way whatsoever. I've spoken to fans of Stoke Sunderland WestHam Swansea WestBrom Chelsea QPR Norwich... who all still quite like City and they just view us as the same club but just richer. I think all this "the media brainwash the nation against us" is utter bollocks. You get the dullards who are daft enough to ring up radio stations and tweet SSN and all that who needn't be taken notice of because they're thick enough to listen to things like talkSPORT and read newspapers and take them seriously, but those who know what's-what, well, they know what's-what! and we've always had big rivals so their hostility towards us had never changed, it's just magnified now we mean something when it comes to the trophy end of the seasons.

 

[Wilf Wild 1937]

I've come across fans of other clubs at cup finals, on holiday, at away games who are clearly not hostile towards our money and success in any way whatsoever. I've spoken to fans of Stoke Sunderland WestHam Swansea WestBrom Chelsea QPR Norwich... who all still quite like City and they just view us as the same club but just richer. I think all this "the media brainwash the nation against us" is utter bollocks. You get the dullards who are daft enough to ring up radio stations and tweet SSN and all that who needn't be taken notice of because they're thick enough to listen to things like talkSPORT and read newspapers and take them seriously, but those who know what's-what, well, they know what's-what! and we've always had big rivals so their hostility towards us had never changed, it's just magnified now we mean something when it comes to the trophy end of the seasons.

Interesting distinction that you make about the dullards and those who know what's what. I tend to agree but unfortunately the dullards represent the majority of the population. Maybe not the majority of match going support but the majority of people who profess to have an interest in football.I was in Tenerife over Christmas and got chatting to a Coventry City fan who blamed us for everything that was bad about football and (ironically as it turned out) for the "fact" that only about four clubs could now ever win the PL. When I suggested that Jimmy Hill just might have had a hand in creating the modern, less competitive, game with it's obscene wages he seemed lost. Never underestimate the stupidity of the public. The Sun is the best selling daily paper!

 

[ped]

Interesting distinction that you make about the dullards and those who know what's what. I tend to agree but unfortunately the dullards represent the majority of the population. Maybe not the majority of match going support but the majority of people who profess to have an interest in football.I was in Tenerife over Christmas and got chatting to a Coventry City fan who blamed us for everything that was bad about football and (ironically as it turned out) for the "fact" that only about four clubs could now ever win the PL. When I suggested that Jimmy Hill just might have had a hand in creating the modern, less competitive, game with it's obscene wages he seemed lost. Never underestimate the stupidity of the public. The Sun is the best selling daily paper![/QUOT
i always try to tell people who spout that line that city have been good for football as we smashed a cartel,arsenal utd and liverpool,all became less powerfull when city took over,we drove a train right through the middle of them all allowing clubs like leicester and spurs a sniff,they normally dont answer back

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Interesting distinction that you make about the dullards and those who know what's what. I tend to agree but unfortunately the dullards represent the majority of the population. Maybe not the majority of match going support but the majority of people who profess to have an interest in football.I was in Tenerife over Christmas and got chatting to a Coventry City fan who blamed us for everything that was bad about football and (ironically as it turned out) for the "fact" that only about four clubs could now ever win the PL. When I suggested that Jimmy Hill just might have had a hand in creating the modern, less competitive, game with it's obscene wages he seemed lost. Never underestimate the stupidity of the public. The Sun is the best selling daily paper!

Might be the best selling but, like all papers, they are fast becoming a complete irrelevance. They are also haemorrhaging readers at an alarming rate. In 2011 they sold over 3M copies every day. This year they are selling 1.7M. Their time has been and gone and I, for one, will not lament their passing.

 

[hutton who blue]

A petrol station near me has been offering the Sun, on the weekend as well free of charge to customers.

 

[Deleted member 58678]

Interesting distinction that you make about the dullards and those who know what's what. I tend to agree but unfortunately the dullards represent the majority of the population. Maybe not the majority of match going support but the majority of people who profess to have an interest in football.I was in Tenerife over Christmas and got chatting to a Coventry City fan who blamed us for everything that was bad about football and (ironically as it turned out) for the "fact" that only about four clubs could now ever win the PL. When I suggested that Jimmy Hill just might have had a hand in creating the modern, less competitive, game with it's obscene wages he seemed lost. Never underestimate the stupidity of the public. The Sun is the best selling daily paper!

Adele, Taylor Swift and Justin Bieber had the biggest selling music albums of 2015 but I wouldn't value their fans' opinions on what good music is, because they're shite.

But out there in the sea of shit music on this planet are islands here and there where great bands reside and people with much better musical tastes live. Just pay attention to them. People who think Swift is great aren't worth taking any notice of. OR, they just need a bit of education on what good music is. They might change their minds after a chat with us, if not, stick to not taking any notice of them.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

But out there in the sea of shit music on this planet are islands here and there where great bands reside and people with much better musical tastes live.

Are you referring to One Direction?

 

[Deleted member 58678]

Are you referring to One Direction?

Indeed, haha

 

[hutton who blue]

Indeed, haha

Can't say I've heard of them, are they any good?

 

[ccr]

Can't say I've heard of them, are they any good?

Cross between Black Sabbath and The Sex Pistols but more edgy.

 

[dennishasdoneit]

Might be the best selling but, like all papers, they are fast becoming a complete irrelevance. They are also haemorrhaging readers at an alarming rate. In 2011 they sold over 3M copies every day. This year they are selling 1.7M. Their time has been and gone and I, for one, will not lament their passing.

The Sun still boss the way when it comes to online views of its daily publication i imagine,and that is where its undoubted influence amongst dullard footy fans still remains depressingly significant.

 

[VOOMER]

It the words of Aristole,"*uck em!"

 

[BlueBas]

What about the shit storm directed at City over the sacking of Mark Hughes for Mancini. I think City handled it better than United, but all they are getting is praise for bringing in Mourinho!

 

[BlueSkyBlue]

Todays BBC football page has 33 main stories - 16 of them are regarding Louis, Jose or United in some way

Jose Mourinho: Manchester United in talks with former Chelsea manager
Zlatan Ibrahimovic: Jose Mourinho could make striker first Man Utd signing
Sportsday - Mourinho latest, gossip & debate
Mourinho, Conte, Guardiola & Klopp: Which newcomer will prosper?
Louis van Gaal: Daley Blind sympathises with sacked Man Utd boss
Darrell Clarke: Leeds United approach Bristol Rovers boss
Ryan Giggs: Manchester United legend considering future at the club
Louis van Gaal sacked by Man Utd over poor style of play
Marcus Rashford: Man Utd striker has little time to make England impact
Chris Coleman: Wales manager signs two-year contract extension
Louis van Gaal sacked: Man Utd boss's funniest quotes
Rangers: Nicky Law, Nicky Clark and David Templeton leave club
Brendan Rodgers: Celtic 'not a step down' from the Premier League
Sylvain Distin: Bournemouth central defender among six departures
Euro 2016 countdown: Portugal v France ends in controversy in 2000
Ryan Giggs would benefit from leaving Manchester United - Chris Coleman
Jose Mourinho: Prospective Manchester United boss "not a progressive coach"
Manchester United: Louis van Gaal sacked as manager
Brendan Rodgers targets Celtic domestic & European success
Euro 2016 countdown: Spain's reign begins at Euro 2008
Watch the goals as Man City Women go 6 points clear
'Mourinho is damaged goods'
England 2-1 Turkey: Roy Hodgson knows defence needs work
Listen to the goals as England beat Turkey
FA Cup final highlights: Crystal Palace 1-2 Manchester United (aet)
Jose Mourinho at Manchester United: What are his top priorities at Old Trafford?
Celtic: Brendan Rodgers strikes right notes for Scottish champions
England v Turkey - How the players rated
Euro 2016: Pick your England starting XI
Euro 2016: A guide to the new laws in football
Manchester United: FA Cup win does not mask problems - Alan Shearer
Manager ins and outs - April/May 2016
Transfers - May 2016

No bias here!

(Apologies if my counting it wrong, lunch time rush)

 

[Dave S]

Todays BBC football page has 33 main stories - 16 of them are regarding Louis, Jose or United in some way

Jose Mourinho: Manchester United in talks with former Chelsea manager
Zlatan Ibrahimovic: Jose Mourinho could make striker first Man Utd signing
Sportsday - Mourinho latest, gossip & debate
Mourinho, Conte, Guardiola & Klopp: Which newcomer will prosper?
Louis van Gaal: Daley Blind sympathises with sacked Man Utd boss
Darrell Clarke: Leeds United approach Bristol Rovers boss
Ryan Giggs: Manchester United legend considering future at the club
Louis van Gaal sacked by Man Utd over poor style of play
Marcus Rashford: Man Utd striker has little time to make England impact
Chris Coleman: Wales manager signs two-year contract extension
Louis van Gaal sacked: Man Utd boss's funniest quotes
Rangers: Nicky Law, Nicky Clark and David Templeton leave club
Brendan Rodgers: Celtic 'not a step down' from the Premier League
Sylvain Distin: Bournemouth central defender among six departures
Euro 2016 countdown: Portugal v France ends in controversy in 2000
Ryan Giggs would benefit from leaving Manchester United - Chris Coleman
Jose Mourinho: Prospective Manchester United boss "not a progressive coach"
Manchester United: Louis van Gaal sacked as manager
Brendan Rodgers targets Celtic domestic & European success
Euro 2016 countdown: Spain's reign begins at Euro 2008
Watch the goals as Man City Women go 6 points clear
'Mourinho is damaged goods'
England 2-1 Turkey: Roy Hodgson knows defence needs work
Listen to the goals as England beat Turkey
FA Cup final highlights: Crystal Palace 1-2 Manchester United (aet)
Jose Mourinho at Manchester United: What are his top priorities at Old Trafford?
Celtic: Brendan Rodgers strikes right notes for Scottish champions
England v Turkey - How the players rated
Euro 2016: Pick your England starting XI
Euro 2016: A guide to the new laws in football
Manchester United: FA Cup win does not mask problems - Alan Shearer
Manager ins and outs - April/May 2016
Transfers - May 2016

No bias here!

(Apologies if my counting it wrong, lunch time rush)

The sooner the BBC are made to finance their joke of an organization by showing adverts the better. Fuck the license fee off once and for all.

 

[FanchesterCity]

I've come across fans of other clubs at cup finals, on holiday, at away games who are clearly not hostile towards our money and success in any way whatsoever. I've spoken to fans of Stoke Sunderland WestHam Swansea WestBrom Chelsea QPR Norwich... who all still quite like City and they just view us as the same club but just richer. I think all this "the media brainwash the nation against us" is utter bollocks. You get the dullards who are daft enough to ring up radio stations and tweet SSN and all that who needn't be taken notice of because they're thick enough to listen to things like talkSPORT and read newspapers and take them seriously, but those who know what's-what, well, they know what's-what! and we've always had big rivals so their hostility towards us had never changed, it's just magnified now we mean something when it comes to the trophy end of the seasons.

I dare say that a lot of fans will treat you fairly decently face to face and discuss football issues sensibly, then well adopt a different stance behind your back. The stereotypical view of City is quite predictable and there are so many fans ranting on internet that the age old 'fake sponsorship' / 'cooking the books' / 'team of mercenaries' / 'lost a lot of soul' accusations will always crop up.

It's staggering how many people buy into media propaganda - including ourselves. The pundits and commentators exacerbate the problem because they buy into things too - When they go to Anfield and need something to say, they choose the 'famous atmosphere'. When they are at City, they talk a little bit about the good work the owners are doing - but since they have no real depth of knowledge on that subject, they quickly revert to what they do best - 'some empty seats', 'should be doing better' etc. They aren't necessarily invalid comments they are making, but they've just become incredibly lazy and churn out tired old lines for the sake of it.

Only the other day during the England game, someone mentioned Navas had been keeping Sterling out of a place at City - it was simply lazy (non-existent) research which is aired on national tv. It's very pervasive.

It isn't just us suffering though - we're just one of many caught up in cyclic nature of 'build 'em up then knock 'em down' journalism - particularly prevalent in the UK.

 

[laserblue]

Only the other day during the England game, someone mentioned Navas had been keeping Sterling out of a place at City - it was simply lazy (non-existent) research which is aired on national tv. It's very pervasive.

It was the fount of all knowledge that is Glenn Hoddle.

 

[CitizenTID]

I must be fucking hearing things...

Did that rag Hayely McQueen really just say, "we'll be live to Antonio Conte's first news conference as Chelsea head coach. Assembled media... a little more than when Pep Guardiola gave his."

Is she a meth head? Is there f*ck. Our room was absolutely packed, there's empty seats in the images they were showing!

 

[blue b4 the moon]

I must be fucking hearing things...

Did that rag Hayely McQueen really just say, "we'll be live to Antonio Conte's first news conference as Chelsea head coach. Assembled media... a little more than when Pep Guardiola gave his."

Is she a meth head? Is there f*ck. Our room was absolutely packed, there's empty seats in the images they were showing!

Perhaps they're all stuffing their faces before it starts.

How does piggy look these days?

 

[bellsouth]

Interesting that BBC Sport have a piece on "Man City lose to Bayern in Guardiola's first game in charge" on the main page. I don't recall seeing the headline "Chelsea lose to Rapid Vienna in Conte's first game in charge"?