Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

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kramer said:
Doubt this could be done due to the roof design would need the ground vacating for a considerable time to remove the existing roof. Should have built a new purpose built stadium adjacent and then knocked the current one down but there would be mass hysteria. So they have to cut and make do and spend twice as much extending the current one
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Totally agree mate - the stadium really bugs me - the corners. The bowl like effect. The outside. For 200 million which is basically 4 and a bit mangalas we could be playing in something like the standard of some of those amazing ones we have just seen in France .waisted opportunity.
 
Jazzman said:
What about a roof over the roof? I think they have something like that in the San Siro.
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The roof configuration will be changed once the North Stand is complete. Look at the plans. for the completed stadium - They are different than what we have now between the south Stand and the East/Bell stands.
 
worsleyweb said:
Totally agree mate - the stadium really bugs me - the corners. The bowl like effect. The outside. For 200 million which is basically 4 and a bit mangalas we could be playing in something like the standard of some of those amazing ones we have just seen in France .waisted opportunity.
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Prefer the Etihad with its faults (not that it has many) to the playing surfaces on offer in France.
 
kramer said:
Doubt this could be done due to the roof design would need the ground vacating for a considerable time to remove the existing roof. Should have built a new purpose built stadium adjacent and then knocked the current one down but there would be mass hysteria. So they have to cut and make do and spend twice as much extending the current one
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It's hard to knock down a stadium you don't own, though. You could argue that if we told Manchester City Council that we were terminating our tenancy they would have no option but to sell up but I suspect that when you factor in things like the inevitable contract clause forcing us to pay an exorbitant amount to stop renting, the recent downturn(s) in the market, the lengthy remediation works required on other parts of the land, the loss of car parking space if we were to build one before knocking down the other etc, then your "spend twice as much" comment rapidly spirals to something like "spend 10-12 times the amount".
 
dawlish dave said:
Prefer the Etihad with its faults (not that it has many) to the playing surfaces on offer in France.
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I agree there's nothing to be ashamed about where the Etihad is concerned, I know we have money but there's no need to become snobs about it, it's not an eyesore like the old toilet, better than Liverpools will look by a mile the emirates looks a little better but they don't have anything like the Etihad campus next to it and never will. I expect they have plans to spruce the place up once the expansion work is done, I can't see them waiting 15 years to do that either as has been suggested, after the North Stand expansion why not?
 
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Falastur said:
It's hard to knock down a stadium you don't own, though. You could argue that if we told Manchester City Council that we were terminating our tenancy they would have no option but to sell up but I suspect that when you factor in things like the inevitable contract clause forcing us to pay an exorbitant amount to stop renting, the recent downturn(s) in the market, the lengthy remediation works required on other parts of the land, the loss of car parking space if we were to build one before knocking down the other etc, then your "spend twice as much" comment rapidly spirals to something like "spend 10-12 times the amount".
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Don't disagree with anything you said but I feel that none of the obstacles are too big to overcome. I love the Etihad and how it looked, think that the south stand looks all wrong, sure it will be better when the north stand is built but ultimately its all compromised. The issue is that the stadium was built at a cost and never envisaged that it would be expanded. All this talk of replacing the roof never takes into account the logistics of doing so with the design of the roof it becomes very difficult to change. What was achieved with the south stand was truly remarkable, constructing the extension whilst the stadium remained in use
 
I know there was talk of the CB stand and the east stand being done in a totally different building fabric/finish to what is seen on the north stand and i'm hoping it is something really impressive cause the north stand to me looks worse than Nike's Kit...which brings the discussion around to the east stand being done....wont it need to be done before the collar site starts?
 
So I'm one of several who has received the relocation letter. It has a lot to do with the stadium development around 126/127 from what I can gather of the letter:

  • Connected hospitality experience to the dressing room.
  • Development of media facilities in the stadium bowl and internal area
The letter said that development will begin in July 2016 and will run over the course of 13 months. I wonder how these developments will look. I was in low 127 before moving to high 126 to avoid the rain, I'm surprised hospitality is earmarked for a soaking experience unless they're thinking of extending the CB roof?
 
Could we build a new better stadium? Of course, but sometimes we forget that the Etihad is still a very good stadium and it will be great when the new North Stand is built.

I read a few comments from people who went to the Stone Roses gigs and they were saying how they bumped into some scousers who were making their first visit to the stadium and they were going on about how impressive it was.
 
ManCityX said:
Could we build a new better stadium? Of course, but sometimes we forget that the Etihad is still a very good stadium and it will be great when the new North Stand is built.

I read a few comments from people who went to the Stone Roses gigs and they were saying how they bumped into some scousers who were making their first visit to the stadium and they were going on about how impressive it was.
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It's one of the best in England, some people just like moaning for the sake of it.
 
Slightly off current topic, but just watching the athletics on the box which is coming from the Olympic stadium, West Hams new home, and can't see how this will look as a football stadium, they will put retractable seating over the running track behind each end behind the goals but fans are still going to be miles away from the pitch . Just doesn't look like a football stadium. The Etihad was built as football stadium that would be used as athletic stadium for the Commenwealth games during construction and then finished off as a football ground, think that the Olympic stadium will look like an athletics stadium that will be used for football. From what I can see from the tv even when West Ham put their football banners and dressing to the interior it still won't look like a football ground.
 
Jacko1956 said:
Slightly off current topic, but just watching the athletics on the box which is coming from the Olympic stadium, West Hams new home, and can't see how this will look as a football stadium, they will put retractable seating over the running track behind each end behind the goals but fans are still going to be miles away from the pitch . Just doesn't look like a football stadium. The Etihad was built as football stadium that would be used as athletic stadium for the Commenwealth games during construction and then finished off as a football ground, think that the Olympic stadium will look like an athletics stadium that will be used for football. From what I can see from the tv even when West Ham put their football banners and dressing to the interior it still won't look like a football ground.
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Here's how it looks with the seats pushed closer to the pitch.

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shaiomarali said:
So I'm one of several who has received the relocation letter. It has a lot to do with the stadium development around 126/127 from what I can gather of the letter:

  • Connected hospitality experience to the dressing room.
  • Development of media facilities in the stadium bowl and internal area
The letter said that development will begin in July 2016 and will run over the course of 13 months. I wonder how these developments will look. I was in low 127 before moving to high 126 to avoid the rain, I'm surprised hospitality is earmarked for a soaking experience unless they're thinking of extending the CB roof?
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It will probably be an enclosed area with glass roof and walls to keep out the riff-raff!
 
Jacko1956 said:
Slightly off current topic, but just watching the athletics on the box which is coming from the Olympic stadium, West Hams new home, and can't see how this will look as a football stadium, they will put retractable seating over the running track behind each end behind the goals but fans are still going to be miles away from the pitch . Just doesn't look like a football stadium. The Etihad was built as football stadium that would be used as athletic stadium for the Commenwealth games during construction and then finished off as a football ground, think that the Olympic stadium will look like an athletics stadium that will be used for football. From what I can see from the tv even when West Ham put their football banners and dressing to the interior it still won't look like a football ground.
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It's an ugly stadium isn't it? Football or athletics; it looks terrible. I've thought that since it was built.
 
cheddar404 said:
It's an ugly stadium isn't it? Football or athletics; it looks terrible. I've thought that since it was built.
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I'm actually watching the athletics there from what's going to be the away fans section, if you are directly behind the goal then you are a long way from the pitch. The sides are not steep, you might be surprised, I don't imagine the track will be covered.
 
nmc said:
Went to the City Store with the family today - new store is great but really noticed what a few posters have recently said - how tatty the area around the ground has become.
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City circle vandalised and a mess for one. I wrote to the club and got the bog standard reply that it'll be sorted before the start of the new season. They miss the point. It is exposed and will continue to be a target for the local scallies with their screwdrivers ...
 
Jacko1956 said:
Slightly off current topic, but just watching the athletics on the box which is coming from the Olympic stadium, West Hams new home, and can't see how this will look as a football stadium, they will put retractable seating over the running track behind each end behind the goals but fans are still going to be miles away from the pitch . Just doesn't look like a football stadium. The Etihad was built as football stadium that would be used as athletic stadium for the Commenwealth games during construction and then finished off as a football ground, think that the Olympic stadium will look like an athletics stadium that will be used for football. From what I can see from the tv even when West Ham put their football banners and dressing to the interior it still won't look like a football ground.
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My understanding is that Seb coe was heavily involved with the design of the Olympic stadium. He sanctioned it be deigned for athletics use only so that it couldn't be converted into a football stadium later down the line. Pretty scandalous really. I agree, the hammers are taking over a very very poor ground from a spectator point of view.
 
UK Athletics need to stop seeing their arse when it come to stadia. There will never be the demand for such a ground aside from once in a blue moon large events.
 
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