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deano ou812 said:
Even though it was a friendly game,other fans or neutrals who may have watched last nights game,or took in some of last seasons champions league games,may be thinking what does it matter get over it and stop being so precious over your club.well it's not that, we can take the criticism when it's justified and we aren't looking to be constantly praised or fawned over for the sake of it.But it's got to the stage where it's just criticism and snidey digs at the club most of the time now.And anyone who says it has no real effect is talking bollocks it portrays us to possible new fans across the spectrum other fans and joe public in general with the negativity and crap 24/7..the more you tell a lie the more it becomes the truth..
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That Deano is the truth,I got a slap off our Ged for ( calling an ex blue a C*** ) on the telly last night.
 
KippaxCitizen said:
I don't use social media mate, it's a race to the bottom of intelligence
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Hello soul mate.

Rolee said:
I'm not going to disagree with that but there's a huge amount of football fans that do and the evidence is clear that they're mainly sheep repeating crap they hear from pundits.
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Social media is the ovine amplifier. A reductionist sledgehammer wielded by the real media.
 
SWP's back said:
I've been chatting with Simon Green at BT Sport via email.

He's said he's more than happy to take on board feedback.

simon.green@btsport.com

He spent a long time explaining Danny's experience as a professional footballer and ex England player.

I pointed out Alan Ball won a World Cup and still didn't understand football whereas Jose can't kick a ball and does. He laughed and said he took my point on board.
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Did you mention Danny's micro-penis?
 
I hate him with a passion, any time his voice pipes up on a stream it goes to mute. Mills spent all game praising Bayern and Ancelotti, went out of his way to not talk about the actual friendly that he was commentating on as well.
 
I have just sent that Simon chap an email. Very pleasant I was but basically saying what I thought of Mrs Mills! Let see if I get any response!?
 
Mills probably in his tiny mind if he is ultra with his nauseating criticism then it will hold him in good sway with his employers, in my eyes reprobates like him turdinhand macpointy scholes and Owen are just cowards, lacking bottle to say things as they really are, the one problem I think everyone has on this great site is the long term effect of their attempted brainwashing, when we win I love looking at their lemon chewing faces it fills me with joy [emoji3]
 
The thing is with Mills and most of these ex-pros who have recently appeared on tv is they say shit and state it as fact because they are ex-footballers and the know the truth so they hardly do any research

Best example the cockwomble gave on Wednesday was that Pep inherited a Barcelona team with world class players who were playing well. Now the first part is true. Messi,Xavi, Iniesta and a couple of others but they were playing awful and had not won a trophy for 2 years and the previous season they had finished 3rd in the league and were a whopping 18 points behind Real Madrid. It was Pep who sorted them out and turned they into a world class team. But never let the facts get in the way of a good story Danny
 
kippaxwarrior said:
The thing is with Mills and most of these ex-pros who have recently appeared on tv is they say shit and state it as fact because they are ex-footballers and the know the truth so they hardly do any research

Best example the cockwomble gave on Wednesday was that Pep inherited a Barcelona team with world class players who were playing well. Now the first part is true. Messi,Xavi, Iniesta and a couple of others but they were playing awful and had not won a trophy for 2 years and the previous season they had finished 3rd in the league and were a whopping 18 points behind Real Madrid. It was Pep who sorted them out and turned them into a world class team. But never let the facts get in the way of a good story Danny
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The interesting question here I suppose is whether Mills knew this and ignored it in favour of his scripted rant, or whether he was completely ignorant of how Barca were doing pre- Pep (and why his predecessor was canned) and spouted his nonsense through nothing but ignorance.

I'm guessing the latter.
 
Chris in London said:
The interesting question here I suppose is whether Mills knew this and ignored it in favour of his scripted rant, or whether he was completely ignorant of how Barca were doing pre- Pep (and why his predecessor was canned) and spouted his nonsense through nothing but ignorance.

I'm guessing the latter.
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i suspect his pre-match research isn't that indepth, and it's balance is set by those who give him stuff to repeat.

Who'd have predicted that City's young defence might look less than superb at times against the likes of Ribery!
 
bumbleblue said:
I have just sent that Simon chap an email. Very pleasant I was but basically saying what I thought of Mrs Mills! Let see if I get any response!?
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The truth is that he was employed because he had those views about City.
It takes away the often used statement that no ex City players are pundits yet gives BT the chance to have their main subscribing base happy with his vitriol.
 
yankcitizen76 said:
Jeez. I honestly don't know how you guys live with the bias, I really don't. It would drive me up the wall.
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We've been through far worse as a fanbase. We've been given far worse shit as a fanbase. Back in the 1990s when we were everyone around the country's second favourite club and the media were always positive about us in the small snippets we ever got it was because we were shit and when we were shit United were at their peak. At the time I was a teenager at school and the shit I used to get off the Rags at school was daily, sometimes hourly. Bearing in mind back then there were homes where both parents were City fans but their kids decided to be Rags because they were winning everything. When we lost 5-0 in the derby I had the other kids in my form all waiting for me at the gates and they all piled on top of me cheering.

This was just my story. This sort of thing will have happened to many blues, young and older, all over the city at the time at school in work in be pub. Daily piss taking! Which is at worse than some media bollocks.

After a while though that starts to mean nothing. They could say the worst thing ever and it meant absolutely nothing. Back then City fans had the thickest skin of any set of fans ever. You couldn't get to us, you couldn't say anything to us that could wind us up.

The daily bollocks we get from the media here is nothing, absolutely nothing compared to the shit we got from the Rags in the 90s and if that didn't get to us then this media shit certainly doesn't! It's meaningless and has absolutely no effect on me and many other City fans. Me and my mates laugh it off, just like we used to with the Rags jibes twenty years ago. Water off a ducks back.

Unfortunately it's not true of all City fans. I don't know why. It's as if the 90s never happened to some of them. That original Agenda thread on this website was an embarrassment to our fanbase, talk about overly sensitive, Christ almighty! And I'm certain that thread fuled journos with the aim to get their articles into the thread and to do so was their big achievement of the week.

I don't know why the skin is so thin with some of our fans but it is. It never used to be like that. But many of us take no notice of the bollocks and we pay it as much attention as it deserves; none! Just like the club themselves do.
 
KippaxCitizen said:
We've been through far worse as a fanbase. We've been given far worse shit as a fanbase. Back in the 1990s when we were everyone around the country's second favourite club and the media were always positive about us in the small snippets we ever got it was because we were shit and when we were shit United were at their peak. At the time I was a teenager at school and the shit I used to get off the Rags at school was daily, sometimes hourly. Bearing in mind back then there were homes where both parents were City fans but their kids decided to be Rags because they were winning everything. When we lost 5-0 in the derby I had the other kids in my form all waiting for me at the gates and they all piled on top of me cheering.

This was just my story. This sort of thing will have happened to many blues, young and older, all over the city at the time at school in work in be pub. Daily piss taking! Which is at worse than some media bollocks.

After a while though that starts to mean nothing. They could say the worst thing ever and it meant absolutely nothing. Back then City fans had the thickest skin of any set of fans ever. You couldn't get to us, you couldn't say anything to us that could wind us up.

The daily bollocks we get from the media here is nothing, absolutely nothing compared to the shit we got from the Rags in the 90s and if that didn't get to us then this media shit certainly doesn't! It's meaningless and has absolutely no effect on me and many other City fans. Me and my mates laugh it off, just like we used to with the Rags jibes twenty years ago. Water off a ducks back.

Unfortunately it's not true of all City fans. I don't know why. It's as if the 90s never happened to some of them. That original Agenda thread on this website was an embarrassment to our fanbase, talk about overly sensitive, Christ almighty! And I'm certain that thread fuled journos with the aim to get their articles into the thread and to do so was their big achievement of the week.

I don't know why the skin is so thin with some of our fans but it is. It never used to be like that. But many of us take no notice of the bollocks and we pay it as much attention as it deserves; none! Just like the club themselves do.
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I (or my kids) went through all you say. Why they are still City fans is a miracle - others will know what I mean. Dad builds it up all the time and then we get served another disaster - they just quietly shrug. 'One day' I kept saying. And I was right!

But this is different. 20 years on there is a specific evil agenda by particularly BT and to an extent SKY. Before I believe they laughed at us if we did something crap - and boy were we crap. Scum got a lot of coverage as they were the top team and won things. But taking all that into account I think coverage was fair.

Now we are one of Europe's top teams - CL semis FFS - yet there is a constant and deliberate attack, as if - the other night is a good example - we are some semi-professional conference team who dares to play Bayern (we should be playing Mansfield etc the man said) and our manager all of a sudden, now he is here, is a failure.

I dont believe the 2 situations compare in any way. We need to campaign to change this bias.
 
KippaxCitizen said:
We've been through far worse as a fanbase. We've been given far worse shit as a fanbase. Back in the 1990s when we were everyone around the country's second favourite club and the media were always positive about us in the small snippets we ever got it was because we were shit and when we were shit United were at their peak. At the time I was a teenager at school and the shit I used to get off the Rags at school was daily, sometimes hourly. Bearing in mind back then there were homes where both parents were City fans but their kids decided to be Rags because they were winning everything. When we lost 5-0 in the derby I had the other kids in my form all waiting for me at the gates and they all piled on top of me cheering.

This was just my story. This sort of thing will have happened to many blues, young and older, all over the city at the time at school in work in be pub. Daily piss taking! Which is at worse than some media bollocks.

After a while though that starts to mean nothing. They could say the worst thing ever and it meant absolutely nothing. Back then City fans had the thickest skin of any set of fans ever. You couldn't get to us, you couldn't say anything to us that could wind us up.

The daily bollocks we get from the media here is nothing, absolutely nothing compared to the shit we got from the Rags in the 90s and if that didn't get to us then this media shit certainly doesn't! It's meaningless and has absolutely no effect on me and many other City fans. Me and my mates laugh it off, just like we used to with the Rags jibes twenty years ago. Water off a ducks back.

Unfortunately it's not true of all City fans. I don't know why. It's as if the 90s never happened to some of them. That original Agenda thread on this website was an embarrassment to our fanbase, talk about overly sensitive, Christ almighty! And I'm certain that thread fuled journos with the aim to get their articles into the thread and to do so was their big achievement of the week.

I don't know why the skin is so thin with some of our fans but it is. It never used to be like that. But many of us take no notice of the bollocks and we pay it as much attention as it deserves; none! Just like the club themselves do.
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I didn't mind so much at first. But every year has gradually eaten at my nerves. Being in America l can't compare the first hand news to anything "local." The English media so often dictates American news policy on the Premier League. ESPN, Fox Sports, NY Times (whatever) will pick up the latest "hot take" opinions and run with them.

A decade ago I didn't care. You met someone on the street here in a Man City kit.... they literally wouldn't believe you were a blue. City were considered plucky underachievers who were kind of like the New York Mets of the Premier League.

But now the continuous equivalent of CNN style sports coverage has formed this catch-all attitude about the club. "You're all a bunch of Plastics.... The Sheik is just setting up franchises! If you didn't have that money you'd be relegated by now."

It seems like there is this imaginary status quo they keep moving and we aren't a part of it. When do all the pundits draw so selectively from the present when we are such a big part of it?
 
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It is fine to be called crap when you are crap but when you are constantly being told you're crap at every opportunity nowadays is a different matter. It is purely agenda driven and to say we have thin skins and laugh st them is ridiculous. We should not up put up with this shite any more that we would put up with someone in a pub calling us cnuts. Turning the other cheek is fine in theory but its not for me and it certainly does not stop things as we see as each season passes.
 
moenchengladbach blau said:
It is fine to be called crap when you are crap but when you are constantly being told you're crap at every opportunity nowadays is a different matter. It is purely agenda driven and to say we have thin skins and laugh st them is ridiculous. We should not up put up with this shite any more that we would put up with someone in a pub calling us cnuts. Turning the other cheek is fine in theory but its not for me and it certainly does not stop things as we see as each season passes.
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KippaxCitizen said:
We've been through far worse as a fanbase. We've been given far worse shit as a fanbase. Back in the 1990s when we were everyone around the country's second favourite club and the media were always positive about us in the small snippets we ever got it was because we were shit and when we were shit United were at their peak. At the time I was a teenager at school and the shit I used to get off the Rags at school was daily, sometimes hourly. Bearing in mind back then there were homes where both parents were City fans but their kids decided to be Rags because they were winning everything. When we lost 5-0 in the derby I had the other kids in my form all waiting for me at the gates and they all piled on top of me cheering.

This was just my story. This sort of thing will have happened to many blues, young and older, all over the city at the time at school in work in be pub. Daily piss taking! Which is at worse than some media bollocks.

After a while though that starts to mean nothing. They could say the worst thing ever and it meant absolutely nothing. Back then City fans had the thickest skin of any set of fans ever. You couldn't get to us, you couldn't say anything to us that could wind us up.

The daily bollocks we get from the media here is nothing, absolutely nothing compared to the shit we got from the Rags in the 90s and if that didn't get to us then this media shit certainly doesn't! It's meaningless and has absolutely no effect on me and many other City fans. Me and my mates laugh it off, just like we used to with the Rags jibes twenty years ago. Water off a ducks back.

Unfortunately it's not true of all City fans. I don't know why. It's as if the 90s never happened to some of them. That original Agenda thread on this website was an embarrassment to our fanbase, talk about overly sensitive, Christ almighty! And I'm certain that thread fuled journos with the aim to get their articles into the thread and to do so was their big achievement of the week.

I don't know why the skin is so thin with some of our fans but it is. It never used to be like that. But many of us take no notice of the bollocks and we pay it as much attention as it deserves; none! Just like the club themselves do.
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I`ve been going since my dad first took me in 1957 and living in rag central have had to fight my corner possible as much if not more than most so dont give us this softarse bollocks.

If the media keep on telling these lies and falsehoods eventually it is believed and taken as fact.
 
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