I do agree, he does gets some stick but his profile is so high and at a blue club - this means his mistakes are polarised more so than the rest in the press.
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Joe Hart (joined Torino on season long loan - Official)
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Ah just the one final dig before you go, no problem.
But if you think you come across as somebody wanting Hart to stay then you are sadly mistaken.
Again, proving my point. You haven't read my posts then.
Again, proving my point. You haven't read my posts then.
I have read your posts and formed the opinion you don't care for Hart very much, you insinuate that he will not be able to handle the pressure of being a sweeper keeper under our new boss
If Pep wants a Sweeper. He can play Bravo for two years and replace him with Rulli. Again IF that is what he wants, selling Hart and buying Bravo is a no brainer.
Yep and Pep's keepers are required to be excellent passers.
Pep wants a sweeper (which we all can agree Joe Hart is not) then it makes sense to sign Bravo for 2 years since we have already signed our long term keeper.
Hardly coming out in support of Hart and willing him to rise up to the challenge of becoming the sweeper keeper Pep wants but then again I am too stupid to read your posts and may have just got you all wrong after all, it isn't hate filled bile like some have written in this thread I will give you that but backing Hart to succeed it is not.
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Spot on chip.Joe is a very very good keeper, don't believe all the negative shit about him, all keepers make mistakes and Neuer makes more than most but never highlighted.
Back one of our own who is one of the best in the world.
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I have read your posts and formed the opinion you don't care for Hart very much, you insinuate that he will not be able to handle the pressure of being a sweeper keeper under our new boss
Hardly coming out in support of Hart and willing him to rise up to the challenge of becoming the sweeper keeper Pep wants but then again I am too stupid to read your posts and may have just got you all wrong after all, it isn't hate filled bile like some have written in this thread I will give you that but backing Hart to succeed it is not.
The last quote you post should say "If Pep wants a Sweeper". And the second quote about passing was in reference to Bravo and not Hart.
I appreciate the fact that you recognize my posts are not hate filled bile towards Joe. Here is another quote from me:
NO. Bravo and Hart are both excellent keepers who have completely different styles of play. Depending on what system you put them in, one will be better than the other.
I love Hart but he is not a Sweeper. IF Pep wants a Sweeper IMO he is not going to find it in Hart. If he wants the best shot stopper in the world, he already has his man. I personally don't know what Pep wants. If Pep wants a World Class stopper who may become good enough with his feet to work in our system, then I think that Hart has a great chance.
Thinking through the complexities of what might happen with our Keeper situation does not make me less of a blue. It makes me curious.
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What if he wants Bony and Kolarov as regulars ?
Then there's nothing we can do about it. But if he thinks Hart isn't up to scratch then I'm pretty certain he'll have sussed out both of them.
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If the Guardian are anything to go by, City have agreed a fee for an Argentinian keeper called Rulli, at Real Sociedad (?). At £4M, he definitely won't be first choice (confirming what Guardiola has said). Don't know much about him, but he's 24, with 110 appearances or so, so on his way up. I wonder how he fits for work permits.
If the Guardian are anything to go by, City have agreed a fee for an Argentinian keeper called Rulli, at Real Sociedad (?). At £4M, he definitely won't be first choice (confirming what Guardiola has said). Don't know much about him, but he's 24, with 110 appearances or so, so on his way up. I wonder how he fits for work permits.
He's allegedly set to stay at Sociedad on loan.
MillionMilesAway
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He's allegedly set to stay at Sociedad on loan.
Ah, thanks. We'd not be able to take him without Caballero going anyway, due to homegrown limits.
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Watching the full Bayern friendly game it is fairly obvious why Joe is not cut out to be Pep's keeper. It has nothing to do with his shot stopping ability. But a lot of times when our attack doesn't work you can clearly see Pep on the sideline signaling to our players to pass it back to the keeper so the opposition would go higher then our keeper could recycle the possession and start the build up again. Whenever we have the ball Willy/Gunn was always outside of the penalty area. I'm afraid Joe is just not cut out to do this. He sort of panics everytime he receives the ball at his feet. Even in the game you can see Gunn is more comfortable on the ball than Willy and our possession looks much better.
Watching the full Bayern friendly game it is fairly obvious why Joe is not cut out to be Pep's keeper. It has nothing to do with his shot stopping ability. But a lot of times when our attack doesn't work you can clearly see Pep on the sideline signaling to our players to pass it back to the keeper so the opposition would go higher then our keeper could recycle the possession and start the build up again. Whenever we have the ball Willy/Gunn was always outside of the penalty area. I'm afraid Joe is just not cut out to do this. He sort of panics everytime he receives the ball at his feet. Even in the game you can see Gunn is more comfortable on the ball than Willy and our possession looks much better.
I don't agree. Maybe we should give Hart the chance to play in this Pep set up where the defenders are making themselves available for a pass before writing him off? Willy and Gunn hardly showed Neuer-esque ball skills they just received the ball and passed it to a defender who was in space. I'm pretty sure Hart can do the same.
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Watching the full Bayern friendly game it is fairly obvious why Joe is not cut out to be Pep's keeper. It has nothing to do with his shot stopping ability. But a lot of times when our attack doesn't work you can clearly see Pep on the sideline signaling to our players to pass it back to the keeper so the opposition would go higher then our keeper could recycle the possession and start the build up again. Whenever we have the ball Willy/Gunn was always outside of the penalty area. I'm afraid Joe is just not cut out to do this. He sort of panics everytime he receives the ball at his feet. Even in the game you can see Gunn is more comfortable on the ball than Willy and our possession looks much better.
know what you mean about coming outside the area but he wasnt playing in that game, lets see when he plays under peps rule, I am sure he will be in the team come the start of the prem, not Gunn, not Cabalero
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I don't agree. Maybe we should give Hart the chance to play in this Pep set up where the defenders are making themselves available for a pass before writing him off? Willy and Gunn hardly showed Neuer-esque ball skills they just received the ball and passed it to a defender who was in space. I'm pretty sure Hart can do the same.
That's exactly my point guys, Caballero and Gunn were both lacking as well. Joe is just not calm enough whenever he has the ball at his feet. That blunder against PSG in the CL comes to mind. I love Joe and I hope to be proven wrong. But I just can't see how a player on Joe's age can suddenly develop the knack to using his feet well.know what you mean about coming outside the area but he wasnt playing in that game, lets see when he plays under peps rule, I am sure he will be in the team come the start of the prem, not Gunn, not Cabalero
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That's exactly my point guys, Caballero and Gunn were both lacking as well. Joe is just not calm enough whenever he has the ball at his feet. That blunder against PSG in the CL comes to mind. I love Joe and I hope to be proven wrong. But I just can't see how a player on Joe's age can suddenly develop the knack to using his feet well.
He is 29! And he is able to learn, I think he is a lot better than some fans think. Most importantly he lives and breaths the club... cant buy that.
But pep isnt a wrecking ball manager who just sacks players and brings new one in, these are players with friendships and loyalties within the team, just getting rid of the mainstay of your defence is madness
That's exactly my point guys, Caballero and Gunn were both lacking as well. Joe is just not calm enough whenever he has the ball at his feet. That blunder against PSG in the CL comes to mind. I love Joe and I hope to be proven wrong. But I just can't see how a player on Joe's age can suddenly develop the knack to using his feet well.
Fernando's blunder?
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Looks as though Begovic is set to leave Chelsea.
Would be an excellent signing for probably about £8m.
Would be an excellent signing for probably about £8m.
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I consider that Joe's blunder as Joe shouldn't have passed it to Fernando, with Zlatan just lurking close to him.Fernando's blunder?
I consider that Joe's blunder as Joe shouldn't have passed it to Fernando, with Zlatan just lurking close to him.
God help us if our players can't receive a ball, control and pass with the nearest opponent 6 yards away.
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