Joe Hart (joined Torino on season long loan - Official)

[Krieng_Thai OSC]

Hart plays good when his position is uncertainty. He was good when he was on loan and came back to challenge the position with Shay. If Mancini had one more season here, Hart would be long gone. He needs another good GK sitting in the bench to keep him motivated and cost of good GK plus money when we sell Hart together we can find a very good GK who doesn't want another good GK sitting in the bench for motivation.
Hart need to has self motivation or Pep will make for him.

 

[razman]

Missing the point of Razmans post is more cringeworthy, he is comparing situations where a elder statesman and influential member of the team/squad will be gotten rid of if Pep deems it necessary, ability and position doesn't come into it in this comparison

+1 , I didn't bother to reply to him ... As he was going on repeating the same point while not understanding my post or deliberately ignoring it

 

[Marvin]

I hope Joe plays today. One of my favourite ever City players and I don't recognise these supposed weaknesses some refer to. This is a winner and proven player who has excelled in possession/passing teams. Sure each manager is different, but not that different. And I see no weakness with his passing and distribution. Much better at distributing the ball than Willy for a start.

 

[Neville Kneville]

I hope Joe plays today. One of my favourite ever City players and I don't recognise these supposed weaknesses some refer to. This is a winner and proven player who has excelled in possession/passing teams. Sure each manager is different, but not that different. And I see no weakness with his passing and distribution. Much better at distributing the ball than Willy for a start.

If his distribution is good enough, he'll stay at City, whether he starts today or not. If it isn't he'll be gone.

No point going on & on trying to convince people on here, it's Pep Guardiola who needs to be convinced & I'm sure most of us will be perfectly happy with Joe, if he's happy with Joe.

 

[Marvin]

If his distribution is good enough, he'll stay at City, whether he starts today or not. If it isn't he'll be gone.

No point going on & on trying to convince people on here, it's Pep Guardiola who needs to be convinced & I'm sure most of us will be perfectly happy with Joe, if he's happy with Joe.

I see no evidence that Guardiola is not convinced. We'll see today.

 

[meeesh]

He's asking for trouble,if he does not start Hart

 

[Saddleworth2]

I see no evidence that Guardiola is not convinced. We'll see today.

Marvin, I admire your loyalty to Joe. I really like him too and he is a great ambassador for the club and usually a great shot stopper. However, I cannot be blind to his weakness in distribution. He finds it difficult to play from the back - always has. Now, you could argue that our defence has never made it easy for him - well I hope we see an improvement now Pep is dictating how they play. The telling moment for me though was the start of the second half against Arsenal after having watched Willie all first half trying manfully to follow Pep's instructions, Joe's first touch was to bloater the ball 60 yards up field and lose possession. When he did that I thought he was deliberately telling Pep, 'I will play my way'. Well he may well continue to play that way but it won't be for us.

 

[worsleyweb]

He's asking for trouble,if he does not start Hart

Why is he. 99 percent of fans know he knows far more than us and will be a great success.

 

[kinkysdribble]

Joe Hart is a quality keeper who's having a bad run of form, behind a shambles of a defence for both club and country. This obsession about being poor with the ball at his feet doesn't wash with me, I want my keeper to be good with his hands because that's the advantage a keeper has, he can use 'em, I don't care if my keeper can't spray 50yard diagonal passes around the pitch, most of our outfield players can't either, Delph struggles to pass it accurately from 10 yards

 

[meeesh]

Why is he. 99 percent of fans know he knows far more than us and will be a great success.

OK,

 

[Krieng_Thai OSC]

Hart situation.

 

[worsleyweb]

OK,

Glad you now agree.

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

Joe Hart is a quality keeper who's having a bad run of form, behind a shambles of a defence for both club and country. This obsession about being poor with the ball at his feet doesn't wash with me, I want my keeper to be good with his hands because that's the advantage a keeper has, he can use 'em, I don't care if my keeper can't spray 50yard diagonal passes around the pitch, most of our outfield players can't either, Delph struggles to pass it accurately from 10 yards

This.

 

[Dubai Blue]

Hart & Ronaldinho in the same sentence, cringeworthy stuff.

Well done on completely missing the point. It really wasn't a difficult one to grasp either.

 

[mosssideblue]

If Willy starts tomorrow then it's Pep signalling to the board that he wants a new keeper. Hounding out a legend

How is it hounding out?

 

[meeesh]

Glad you now agree.

I don't,far from it,thing is people like you who read a book,and in Pep we trust scenarios before a ball is kicked are not looking at the bigger picture.

I'll ask you a question,if you had a choice to pick from Joe or Willy....who would you choose......and be honest

 

[worsleyweb]

I don't,far from it,thing is people like you who read a book,and in Pep we trust scenarios before a ball is kicked are not looking at the bigger picture.

I'll ask you a question,if you had a choice to pick from Joe or Willy....who would you choose......and be honest[/QUOTE

Not finished reading it yet. Willy.

 

[mosssideblue]

Assuming the rumours are true, I'd understand it more if Caballero's distribution had been good in pre-season, but let's be frank - it's been fucking awful and has nearly cost us goals on more than one occasion.

Can only assume Guardiola was unhappy with Hart continuing to kick long (presumably against his instructions), or has just decided he's not going to be part of his plans. The latter fits in with something I heard earlier in the summer.

Could all be nonsense of course, guess we'll have a better idea tomorrow afternoon.

I have often wondered if there is something behind the scenes that is behind this

 

[meeesh]

Well your in a minority there,but you had to say that to back up your argument I suppose,anyway enjoy the game,I hope I will,but believe you me if he picks Willy and he drops a bollock,like he has in pre season,I'll be shouting at the manager to get him fucking off the pitch,however if he picks him and he has a stormer,I'll take it back.....until next week

 

[mosssideblue]

We don't play Hart tomorrow then his value drops?

That's not a good reason to play him though is it?