Claudio Bravo

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ethan23 said:
Does anyone else fear he might have a similar start with us as de gea had with united. There's no denying his quality but he's not the biggest presence , I just hope he doesn't get bullied by some of the more physical players in the league. Another problem could be communication does anyone know if he can speak English?
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With our Largely Spanish, French Serbian speaking defense! If he can speak English he might struggle with stones! You make a good point re communication but an experienced keeper like Bravo will know how to communicate with his back 4 - particularly when he's more active utilizing the space left by a high line.
 
It's all a big plot just so we can start selling short sleeved goalie kits, mark my words
Sad to see Joe go but it probably the right time. Will be interesting to see if he still gets the media slating with England if he signs for another club,or indeed if he stays as England no 1. Forum what I've seen of Bravo he's exactly what Pep wants although I've not seen that many clips of him actually making saves, just of his great distribution and ball skills!
 
Does anybody have the distribution stats for keepers around Europe?

Surely we can find someone who's roughly just as good except years ago, so that we don't have to splash another 20-40 million in a couple of years time when he's at the end of his playing life? (Rulli is nothing but a project at his stage, there are zero guarantees).
 
Sky reported this morning that Bravo had the highest pass completion % (around 85%) of any keeper in the top 5 leagues in Europe last season. Think this says it all, why we going after him...Hart was in the 44% range....Sad for Hart that the one area Pep looks for in his keeper's, just happens to be Hart's weakness...
 
ws01 said:
Does anybody have the distribution stats for keepers around Europe?

Surely we can find someone who's roughly just as good except years ago, so that we don't have to splash another 20-40 million in a couple of years time when he's at the end of his playing life? (Rulli is nothing but a project at his stage, there are zero guarantees).
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Why is money an issue
 
TRUE BLUE NO1 said:
Sky reported this morning that Bravo had the highest pass completion % (around 85%) of any keeper in the top 5 leagues in Europe last season. Think this says it all, why we going after him...Hart was in the 44% range....Sad for Hart that the one area Pep looks for in his keeper's, just happens to be Hart's weakness...
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The worst thing is that it's not Joe's fault, it's the shitty backward English system which has never put any emphasis on him learning it in the first place. All our kids are being taught this now.

Makes me laugh Gary Neville talking about how great it is Hart learning from Pep & John Stones becoming Piquet, we've got Sam fucking Allardyce in charge of the England team!
 
Jumanji said:
Otamendi and Mangala are the only two that aren't proficient in English.

I think the language thing has already been causing us defensive issues with those guys.
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Not sure what level he was at when he arrived as his interviews were in French, but Mangala speaks excellent English now.
 
So lets asume Bravo comes in (seems like a serious enough rumor), and let's asume Bravo is brought in to be number one, who do we wanna sell: Hart or Caballero?

You can look at this transfer in two ways. Hart needs more time to get to grips with what Pep wants from his goallie and Hart is given time due to his status within the club. Caballero is nearing an age you want him to go and play regular and he is probably easier to move on. I might even go as far as swap Bravo for Caballero to solve Barca's problem for looking at a new number two.
Or ... Pep simply doesn't rate Hart, never has done so, and will move him on because he figures keeping Hart in a number two role eventually brings trouble in the squad due to the players' influence.

Imo as it is now, Bravo comes in, fights it out with Caballero and Hart is on his way. And to be honest, that was probably the last thing I would say about any changes I expected 3 months ago.
 
ws01 said:
Does anybody have the distribution stats for keepers around Europe?

Surely we can find someone who's roughly just as good except years ago, so that we don't have to splash another 20-40 million in a couple of years time when he's at the end of his playing life? (Rulli is nothing but a project at his stage, there are zero guarantees).
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Distribution success of keepers that played more than 20 games last season:

1. Bravo - 86%
2. Trapp - 84%
3. Neuer - 83%
4. Reina - 82%
5. Buffon - 81%
6. Benaglio - 81%

No-one else over 80%...Only Trapp is under 30years old and he is unattainable.
 
TRUE BLUE NO1 said:
Sky reported this morning that Bravo had the highest pass completion % (around 85%) of any keeper in the top 5 leagues in Europe last season. Think this says it all, why we going after him...Hart was in the 44% range....Sad for Hart that the one area Pep looks for in his keeper's, just happens to be Hart's weakness...
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Not seen the Sky coverage but those are telling stats. I thoughtJoe was quite comfortable with the ball at his feet. I used to watch him warm up in the penalty area and he always struck me as a good footballer so this has surprised me. I'll be sad if Joe goes, but it's good news if we have secured a quality replacement who knows what Guardiola wants. Goalkeeper is such a key position for a team that wants to build up possession.
 
Marvin said:
Not seen the Sky coverage but those are telling stats. I thoughtJoe was quite comfortable with the ball at his feet. I used to watch him warm up in the penalty area and he always struck me as a good footballer so this has surprised me. I'll be sad if Joe goes, but it's good news if we have secured a quality replacement who knows what Guardiola wants. Goalkeeper is such a key position for a team that wants to build up possession.
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That's the thing Marv, in training and warming up Hart does always look a lot more comfortable on the ball. Sadly it never did translate into a match. This tells me it's more of a mental issue as anything else. He's not unique in that regard. I've heard a few stories about players who were deemed world beaters in training until they had to go out in front of 30/40/50 thousand fans and fell to pieces. I'm not saying Joe falls to pieces but he certainly reverts to launching balls once the whistle goes.
 
Slightly off topic here but what's the deal with Joe having trouble diving left? Why does he have such an issue with it?
 
Think joe simply panics and gets rid all the training in the world wont change that in match situations. Think thats why pep seem so disappointed with hart after the arsenal game. I believe he was doing everything right in training but when the pressure is on he panics and clears it.
 
Pablo1 said:
That's the thing Marv, in training and warming up Hart does always look a lot more comfortable on the ball. Sadly it never did translate into a match. This tells me it's more of a mental issue as anything else. He's not unique in that regard. I've heard a few stories about players who were deemed world beaters in training until they had to go out in front of 30/40/50 thousand fans and fell to pieces. I'm not saying Joe falls to pieces but he certainly reverts to launching balls once the whistle goes.
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In which case Pep might be able to train it into him. If I was Hart, I would relish the thought of training under Pep for a year or two and acquiring the knowledge and confidence to add new capabilities that are so clearly needed in the modern game. He is still a relatively young man for a goalkeeper, so he wouldn't be losing much and potentially gaining loads.
 
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