Pep: 'The players deserve a full stadium, we need our fans!'

franksinatra said:
Two years ago an audit of season ticket holders highlighted that 70.6 percent of season ticket holders were from Greater Manchester.

That leaves 11k of the 36,500 travelling a significant distance, into manchester on night matches to be able to attend the match. It must be extremely difficult for the vast majority of those to attend (this includes myself) and as yet we do not have vast numbers of infrequent to fill the gaps. Usually we have around 90k different fans attending over the course of a year.

I completely agree even those outside Mcr are predominantly Mancunian. We have not gained large numbers of supporters from further afield as the choice of a team is a childhood choice and based on 4/5 years of success those who do follow us will not be old enough to travel themselves.

interestingly, statistically Tameside has the highest proportion, per head of population of city season ticket holders than anywhere else in the world, 1 in 53.
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That was down to me working in Tameside for 13 years mate

But fair play to you and everyone else who travels half of England to watch City
 
franksinatra said:
Two years ago an audit of season ticket holders highlighted that 70.6 percent of season ticket holders were from Greater Manchester.

That leaves 11k of the 36,500 travelling a significant distance, into manchester on night matches to be able to attend the match. It must be extremely difficult for the vast majority of those to attend (this includes myself) and as yet we do not have vast numbers of infrequent to fill the gaps. Usually we have around 90k different fans attending over the course of a year.

I completely agree even those outside Mcr are predominantly Mancunian. We have not gained large numbers of supporters from further afield as the choice of a team is a childhood choice and based on 4/5 years of success those who do follow us will not be old enough to travel themselves.

interestingly, statistically Tameside has the higyhest proportion, per head of population of city season ticket holders than anywhere else in the world, 1 in 53.
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Stockport, surely?
 
Besides the fact that the whole statement tells a different story...it would seem that Pep speaking of City fans letting go of an anti champions league sentiment, is pretty much the same as someone suggesting to the dippers that they should let go of their candles and victim mentality...great idea, but probably not going to happen.
 
franksinatra said:
Two years ago an audit of season ticket holders highlighted that 70.6 percent of season ticket holders were from Greater Manchester.

That leaves 11k of the 36,500 travelling a significant distance, into manchester on night matches to be able to attend the match. It must be extremely difficult for the vast majority of those to attend (this includes myself) and as yet we do not have vast numbers of infrequent to fill the gaps. Usually we have around 90k different fans attending over the course of a year.

I completely agree even those outside Mcr are predominantly Mancunian. We have not gained large numbers of supporters from further afield as the choice of a team is a childhood choice and based on 4/5 years of success those who do follow us will not be old enough to travel themselves.

interestingly, statistically Tameside has the highest proportion, per head of population of city season ticket holders than anywhere else in the world, 1 in 53.
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Interesting information thanks, I bet there are plenty of season ticket holders just outside Greater Manchester in places like High Peak, Lancashire, Cheshire so the percentage of season ticket holders living in say a 30 mile radius of the Etihad would be over 80%.

I rarely see any City shirts in towns across the UK outside GM and as you suggested most are probably Manc exiles, some clubs do have large pockets of fans in strange areas usually because it is the home town of a famous ex player i.e. The filth in Barnsley possibly because of Tommy Taylor, Wrexham is full of them possibly because of Les, lots of Evertonians in North Wales possibly due to the proximity to Liverpool and Neville Southall and Kevin Ratcliffe, Leeds used too and still might have strong support in South Wales almost certainly because of John Charles and to a lesser extent Garry Sprake and Terry Yorath, we tend not too although there has always been a small but loyal following from Cheltenham and Gloucester and the East Midlands for some reason.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
Funnily enough, fella, I posted something very similar a while after. SKy made football an armchair sport. Legions of young glory hunters around the country (and the world) have been attaching themselves to United, Arsenal and Liverpool for the reflected canned glory for 25 years. Those clubs will have exactly the same percentage of non-attendees for midweek cup games as we have, but these plastic fans will do one or two games a season and increase their attendances in the less appealing games. We are gaining these fans but haven't gained enough yet to add 20k to the gate in a low-demand televised game. It will happen, and Pep will make it happen.

It really is at at all scientific, but my 8 year old casually announced tonight that his best friend has changed from Liverpool to City this week. And I don't live in Manchester anymore. The Pep effect...
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Its acorns and oak trees mate. This club has been absolutely propelled over the past 7 years and although we have grown substantially in every facet as a club growing a fanbase takes a little bit longer.

We have started from a great base having a loyal and large fanbase but we need the next generation of blues to come through. Unless you had family reasons it would be difficult to think of why any kid would choose City in the late 90/00s. Being a quirky club, which regularly messes up, and grabs defeat from the jaws of victory hardly resonates with a 6 year old whos mates are off to the latest United trophy parade.

It is changing. Being down south the sports shops all sell City stuff now and its not that unique to see a City shirt in a park. Just going to take a bit of time.
 
squirtyflower said:
That was down to me working in Tameside for 13 years mate

But fair play to you and everyone else who travels half of England to watch City
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Come on mate everybody wants to say there from Tameside but just working there does not count.

Ive done the hard yards so not missing out now or letting a bit of travel stop me. Im also lucky as my enployer (local authority) is pretty flexible. It must be horrendois for those with limited holidays. Hats off to them
 
I live in Nottinghamshire and know a few st holders over here, including my sons teacher at the village primary school (he's her favourite pupil as a consequence!).

In terms of the booing of the anthem, I'm of the mindset of if our board is over it, and see Europe as a big deal, then considering everything they've done for the club, I don't see it as much of a sacrifice to make the effort for the CL as much as the PL.

As much as I'm not a fan of some aspects of the competition, there's a lot about UEFA that could be equally levelled at the premier league - implementing that did just as much, if not more, to create disparity in the game.

Cost and travel, absolutely are valid reasons and ones that apply to me too. Dislike of uefa or the competition though, I think we are in danger of having our cake and eating it...
 
I'm down in Essex now with my ST but don't get back for every single game and left the cup schemes for midweek games.
 
philiph20 said:
Interesting information thanks, I bet there are plenty of season ticket holders just outside Greater Manchester in places like High Peak, Lancashire, Cheshire so the percentage of season ticket holders living in say a 30 mile radius of the Etihad would be over 80%.

I rarely see any City shirts in towns across the UK outside GM and as you suggested most are probably Manc exiles, some clubs do have large pockets of fans in strange areas usually because it is the home town of a famous ex player i.e. The filth in Barnsley possibly because of Tommy Taylor, Wrexham is full of them possibly because of Les, lots of Evertonians in North Wales possibly due to the proximity to Liverpool and Neville Southall and Kevin Ratcliffe, Leeds used too and still might have strong support in South Wales almost certainly because of John Charles and to a lesser extent Garry Sprake and Terry Yorath, we tend not too although there has always been a small but loyal following from Cheltenham and Gloucester and the East Midlands for some reason.
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Yes without question. 80 percent would be the minimum I woupd expect. There is a shift in the younger generation, I would say around the Uk. Its unlikely a 30/40 year old bloke is likely to start supporting us so although the fanbase is growing it will take a few years to be converted into bums on seats. Stills its a great legacy for 15/20 years time to know we have widespread support coming through.
 
franksinatra said:
Yes without question. 80 percent would be the minimum I woupd expect. There is a shift in the younger generation, I would say around the Uk. Its unlikely a 30/40 year old bloke is likely to start supporting us so although the fanbase is growing it will take a few years to be converted into bums on seats. Stills its a great legacy for 15/20 years time to know we have widespread support coming through.
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Yes as far as under 10s attending games in the flash I bet we are right up there what with the size of the family stand
 
arfurclue said:
Besides the fact that the whole statement tells a different story...it would seem that Pep speaking of City fans letting go of an anti champions league sentiment, is pretty much the same as someone suggesting to the dippers that they should let go of their candles and victim mentality...great idea, but probably not going to happen.
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It isn't going to happen no matter who says it. We are a fan base used to adversity and putting two fingers up to being patronised and lectured by the so called powers that be. If anything being more or less told to stop doing it will increase the support for carrying it on. The whole world comments on it and now knows our reasons for doing it. Now the corrupt cunts have come up with a sneaky idea of giving more points and money to clubs for PAST glories, no matter how long ago. You really couldn't make it up! This is all the more reasons to boo the wankers and expose this shameful ploy. Pep needs to stick to doing what he is good at....getting teams to play brilliant innovative football and keep out of something he appears to know little about.
 
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The truth is and always has been, is that a lot of City fans just don't do cup games. They see them as a throwaway optional extra, which aren't really that important. A lot wouldn't bother turning up if it was free. That's a difficult position for the club.

While we we have a great record for league attendances, our cup crowds on the whole have been poor for 25 years+. I knew when we first ever qualified for this competition that we would struggle to sell out the stadium because of this, which was confirmed true when our debut against Napoli failed to sell out.
 
ninjamonkey said:
If ever there was value for money, it's watching a Pep team. Should be queues around the ground to see the football we're producing right now.

we also need to get over the fact we will attract tourists. Our attendances have shown we actually need them. Had 2 lads next to me today for who it was clearly their first game, they were live streaming almost the entire game and asking me for lyrics to some of the songs, apart from hiss arm ocassionally getting in my way they were no bother, were enjoying themselves and loving the atmosphere and even tried to join in despite clearly not knowing/understanding the songs. A few idiots though were having a go at them for no reason other than not being lifelong hardcore City fans.Thankfully, i don't think they realised it was aimed at them or they choose to ignore it. They bothered to turn up, they shouldn't be treated any differently.
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Everyone has to have had their "1st City match" Maybe fans that started watching us in the late 60's and early 70's were glory hunters as we were tremendous then. I can say my late father took me to watch my first game when we were in the 2nd tier of English football in 1966 at Gig Lane we lost 2-1. I personally welcome all new fans. Like a double edged sword the more we attract the more successful we'll be.
 
ManCityX said:
The truth is and always has been, is that a lot of City fans just don't do cup games. They see them as a throwaway optional extra, which aren't really that important. A lot wouldn't bother turning up if it was free. That's a difficult position for the club.

While we we have a great record for league attendances, our cup crowds on the whole have been poor for 25 years+. I knew when we first ever qualified for this competition that we would struggle to sell out the stadium because of this, which was confirmed true when our debut against Napoli failed to sell out.
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I've not read all posts, but on this point is there a need for the club to sell packages to supporters just for 'Cup Competitions' totally separate to Season Tickets?!
 
And UEFA, David Gill, Manchester United, the Italian club Mafia, and the UEFA cartel want to give the Italian clubs 4 places in the CL, plus extra coefficient points, and extra prize money, because they've won the European Cup or CL previously. Please!

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Sorry Pep, I love you and your football, but my hatred of UEFA and everything it stands for mean I will continue booing the UEFA anthem.
 
Last night was unique due to the postponement the night before and the club not being able to sell tickets on the night. It was a gloriously warm night and if tickets had been available on a turn up and buy basis I reckon a few thousand more would have attended.
 
Anyone else watching the Europe League highlights? Shocking figures at some of these games, empty seats everywhere.
 
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