Joe Hart (joined Torino on season long loan - Official)

[Delphacito]

Would've stopped that goal.

Lukaku shot it low to the left. That's exactly the type of goal that Joe conceded often.

 

[Bigga]

Lukaku shot it low to the left. That's exactly the type of goal that Joe conceded often.

Very rare Joe conceded these type of goals. Fairly sure Joe would've tipped that one away.

Joe's problem was straight on, down to his left or shooter slightly angled to the right, same shot.

Had to beaten by a better, harder shot than Lukaku's today.

 

[ono]

Why the fuck did we spend all that money on Pep when we could have just asked you.

Beats me.

 

[cleavers]

Would've stopped that goal.

Wouldn't have had to, if our centre back wasn't diving in needlessly 10 yards into their half, and missing the tackle, I won't absolve Clichy of responsibility either, who could have done better. Lukaku had a lot to do after Stones' fuck up, but he did it well, however we shouldn't be 2 on 2 defending for me, ever, Pep or not.

 

[Bluewonder]

Lukaku shot it low to the left. That's exactly the type of goal that Joe conceded often.

It was a one on one - Hart's best attribute was saving one on ones.

 

[RandomJ]

Wouldn't have had to, if our centre back wasn't diving in needlessly 10 yards into their half, and missing the tackle, I won't absolve Clichy of responsibility either, who could have done better. Lukaku had a lot to do after Stones' fuck up, but he did it well, however we shouldn't be 2 on 2 defending for me, ever, Pep or not.

Otamendi was also jogging back from the half way line. All 3 defenders fucked up for that goal but Bravo hardly covered himself in glory either.

 

[cleavers]

Otamendi was also jogging back from the half way line. All 3 defenders fucked up for that goal

Indeed, hence I don't think blaming the keeper makes any sense, Lukaku was also quite clever with the shot. Apart from our part in it, I thought it was a decent finish, having had a lot to do to start with. However if we weren't missing a tackle 10 yards in their half, we'd have won 1-0.

In tight games defending well is important (that wasn't close to "well"), Pep will learn this in the PL, hopefully sooner rather than later, and that isn't a pop at Pep, its a fact.

 

[RandomJ]

Indeed, hence I don't think blaming the keeper makes any sense, Lukaku was also quite clever with the shot. Apart from our part in it, I thought it was a decent finish, having had a lot to do to start with. However if we weren't missing a tackle 10 yards in their half, we'd have won 1-0.

In tight games defending well is important (that wasn't close to "well"), Pep will learn this in the PL, hopefully sooner rather than later, and that isn't a pop at Pep, its a fact.

Not fully to blame no but goalkeepers are meant to be the last line of defence and I really don't think Bravo did enough to attempt to save Lukaku's shot he just came off his line and watched him score instead of making himself big like Joe does.

 

[Armaan]

It was a one on one - Hart's best attribute was saving one on ones.

I used to always say to people that whenever a player was one on one with Joe I actually felt calm and was so sure he'd save it. An unbelievable one on one keeper. I like bravo though his passing is good but joes a better shot stopper no doubt.

 

[FantasyIreland]

According to the Express,Joe feels let down by Pep and will definitely be leaving the club next summer.

Not exactly scoop of the decade stuff,but,saying that,no quotes to support the article.

 

[1961_vintage]

Rush goalie - it's the Pep vision.

 

[mosssideblue]

Would've stopped that goal.

Pathetic attempt at wumming. Really no need for this type of post (unless I have been Clarkied). Half term come early somewhere.

Is this going to be the norm everytime we concede?

 

[Delphacito]

It was a one on one - Hart's best attribute was saving one on ones.

True, just not to his left though.

 

[andyhinch]

Pathetic attempt at wumming. Really no need for this type of post (unless I have been Clarkied). Half term come early somewhere.

Is this going to be the norm everytime we concede?

Getting a bit stale isn't it

 

[i kne albert davy]

To say Joe would have saved the shot is all conjecture all that anybody can say in all truthfulness is he couldn't have done much worse.

 

[Bluewonder]

Pathetic attempt at wumming. Really no need for this type of post (unless I have been Clarkied). Half term come early somewhere.

Is this going to be the norm everytime we concede?

I can think of countless occasions where we've won 1-0 and Joe Hart made a couple of crucial saves. Especially from one on ones.

 

[kaz7]

I can think if countless occasions where we've won 1-0 and Joe Hart made a couple of crucial saves. Especially from one on ones.

Joe is the best one on one stopper anywhere,it's reasonable to think he would have saved it but no-one can say for sure obviously

 

[Terra Passenger]

Joe is the best one on one stopper anywhere,it's reasonable to think he would have saved it but no-one can say for sure obviously

http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/1956...r-has-the-best-save-percentage-in-europe-this

Joe not on the list - Bravo is.

And really? Bravo could/should have done something different for the goal?



Goal is at 1:30 - let me know what on earth Bravo could have done, fractions of a second after Clichy is beaten and point-blank Lukako smashes it low and to Bravo's right.

By sheer chance, the keeper might have stuck his right foot out slightly more... but then he's more susceptible to a nutmeg. No way in my book that Claudio did anything in the slightest bit wrong on the goal.

 

[kaz7]

http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/1956...r-has-the-best-save-percentage-in-europe-this

Joe not on the list - Bravo is.

And really? Bravo could/should have done something different for the goal?



Goal is at 1:30 - let me know what on earth Bravo could have done, fractions of a second after Clichy is beaten and point-blank Lukako smashes it low and to Bravo's right.

One on ones are something you see with your eyes,saved shots stats cover everything,joe is very good at them as we have seen over 10yrs
Look i am not comparing the 2 when i comment on Bravo as they are different sorts of keepers and i appreciate each one for their strenghs and weaknesses,i posted well done in the match thread when he turned it over the bar yesterday,i thought he could have spread himself better for the goal,this needs to be in the bravo thread anyway

 

[Terra Passenger]

One on ones are something you see with your eyes,saved shots stats cover everything,joe is very good at them as we have seen over 10yrs
Look i am not comparing the 2 when i comment on Bravo as they are different sorts of keepers and i appreciate each one for their strenghs and weaknesses,i posted well done in the match thread when he turned it over the bar yesterday,i thought he could have spread himself better for the goal,this needs to be in the bravo thread anyway

My point is that there was literally no time to react once Clichy is beaten. Bravo did well to advance somewhat to cut off angles.. but beyond that it was sheer luck.

For my money, De Hea has the quickest reflexes of any keeper I've watched. But even De Gea wouldn't have had enough time to react to that point-blank shot. Rewatch the video - if you honestly think that Bravo could have done any better... well then we disagree. But I think, if you rewatch the video you'll see that there's literally no time to react.

For the record, I think that Joe had a world class performance for us last year - top 10 in the world. But to think that Joe or anyone else for that matter could have done better (luck not withstanding) against Lukako's goal... is expecting way too much in terms of reaction time from the human physique - no human, freakish De Gea included, could have done anything against that - again, 1:30 for the goal.