Etihad atmosphere

markbmcfc said:
We weren't playing awful, but this is part of the problem. The barometer for judging performance has changed so much with expectations that sections of our home crowd have seemingly forgotten what awful, or similar, actually is. For context, this was awful: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/6185673.stm

We don't have a divine right to win every game, but the sense of desperation and expectation to do so reflects in the atmosphere.

I don't expect the place bouncing every game, and in answer to your question there isn't a ground that is. However, i'd suspect there aren't many that boo when top of the league after drawing, either. Maybe one or two obvious candidates - but do we want to be part of that group?
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Totally agree. The boos were ridiculous. I guarantee that if Stones hadn't gifted them that goal and we'd gone in level at 0-0 there would have been zero boos.

We're turning into the type of fan base that we claim to hate. Entitled and fucking mard arses. Top of the league and getting booed off at half time is more of a disgrace than anything we witnessed on the pitch yesterday.

The players reacted after half time, probably due to getting a rollicking but also due to the crowd being noticably more audible straight after half time. It's not fucking rocket science. Why do we as a fan base only start giving it loads from the stands once we go behind or are chasing a match?
 
Mike N said:
And before anyone says it's the 'new' fans it really isn't. Guys who sit near me in their 30's, 40's and 50's do not support the team until we are three up. They've been going for ever but are now fat, lazy, entitled , silent, crap fans. But they do enjoy a good 'boo'.
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I sit in 105 (half way line 13 rows back). Yesterday there was a couple of tourists sat to my right; an oriental couple. Apart from me, the husband was the only fucker making any noise at all.
Not the first time this has happened; Americans, Germans, Israelis have sat next to me in those seats (they were occupied by a couple of regular season ticket holders for quiet a few years before their kids arrived and their priorities changed) and I'm always embarrassed by the lethargy of the people around me.

How difficult is it to clap your hands and shout 'come on City' when we are building from the back or win a corner or whatever.
How precious and self conscious do you have to be to be so timid you can't shout at a football match?

Get in your seat for the kick off.
Stay in your seat until the half time whistle blows and clap the team off.
Be back in your seat for the start of the second half.
Stay in your seat until the final whistle blows and clap the team off.
While the match is in progress encourage the team by clapping your hands, shouting or joining in with any songs that do materialize in our library of a stadium.

Piece of cake.

More angry with the fans yesterday than the team.
 
GortonBlue62 said:
I sit in 105 (half way line 13 rows back). Yesterday there was a couple of tourists sat to my right; an oriental couple. Apart from me, the husband was the only fucker making any noise at all.
Not the first time this has happened; Americans, Germans, Israelis have sat next to me in those seats (they were occupied by a couple of regular season ticket holders for quiet a few years before their kids arrived and their priorities changed) and I'm always embarrassed by the lethargy of the people around me.

How difficult is it to clap your hands and shout 'come on City' when we are building from the back or win a corner or whatever.
How precious and self conscious do you have to be to be so timid you can't shout at a football match?

Get in your seat for the kick off.
Stay in your seat until the half time whistle blows and clap the team off.
Be back in your seat for the start of the second half.
Stay in your seat until the final whistle blows and clap the team off.
While the match is in progress encourage the team by clapping your hands, shouting or joining in with any songs that do materialize in our library of a stadium.

Piece of cake.

More angry with the fans yesterday than the team.
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I keep shouting 'Bert, Bert, give the ball to Paddy Fagan on the wing' but it disturbs those posting on their phones and tablets. Funny new game innit?
 
People might think i'm completely bonkers but the whole atmosphere/ match day experience over the last 3 years or so has made going to the match a real chore. It just feels so tepid and sterile and lifeless, people don't even get irate at refereeing decisions or flick the vs at away fans anymore, i don't know if it an age thing ( im in my 40s) or the feeling after the QPR game is an anti climax but i only go to games now out of duty. I think back to being a kid and big games and the like i could hardly sleep with nerves but now im just grumpy and pissed off and thinking i'd sooner try and get all the English and Scottish grounds in instead, perhaps i just hate modern football.
 
GortonBlue62 said:
I sit in 105 (half way line 13 rows back). Yesterday there was a couple of tourists sat to my right; an oriental couple. Apart from me, the husband was the only fucker making any noise at all.
Not the first time this has happened; Americans, Germans, Israelis have sat next to me in those seats (they were occupied by a couple of regular season ticket holders for quiet a few years before their kids arrived and their priorities changed) and I'm always embarrassed by the lethargy of the people around me.
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It's not just the tourists though. I'm not a ST holder but get to games when I can. I end up moving around a lot of course. Was in 308 against Everton, sat next to two ST holders (they mentioned this) and, I shit you not, they spent at least 80% of the match talking about anything but the game. I learned all about the stag do they are going on, how their kids are doing and what they were having for tea. They didn't even react much to the goal.
 
philiph20 said:
People might think i'm completely bonkers but the whole atmosphere/ match day experience over the last 3 years or so has made going to the match a real chore. It just feels so tepid and sterile and lifeless, people don't even get irate at refereeing decisions or flick the vs at away fans anymore, i don't know if it an age thing ( im in my 40s) or the feeling after the QPR game is an anti climax but i only go to games now out of duty. I think back to being a kid and big games and the like i could hardly sleep with nerves but now im just grumpy and pissed off and thinking i'd sooner try and get all the English and Scottish grounds in instead, perhaps i just hate modern football.
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Bang on.
 
Cheesy said:
It's not just the tourists though. I'm not a ST holder but get to games when I can. I end up moving around a lot of course. Was in 308 against Everton, sat next to two ST holders (they mentioned this) and, I shit you not, they spent at least 80% of the match talking about anything but the game. I learned all about the stag do they are going on, how their kids are doing and what they were having for tea. They didn't even react much to the goal.
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These two mates catching up at the match, they should be named and shamed. Disgraceful. Imagine meeting your mates at the game and having a natter.

Do me a favour.
 
I just go to home cup games and about 5 Premier League games when I can afford it.


Doesn’t matter where I sit the atmosphere is always awful.


Level 3 of both sides is that quiet I was even whispering to my niece one time as I didn’t want to sound rude being loud. ha! (Sadly thats not a joke)
 
I expect, whilst sat amongst the 9000 or so blues at The Swamp on Wednesday night, that the vast majority will sing themselves hoarse. That is the way, always is, always has been.
So, we play Barcelona next week. I expect the vast majority of fans at The Swamp will be sat at the Etihad, surrounded by other expectant fans, watching 2 of the best teams in Europe, and a good number of Individual players we'd have only dreamt about watching some years ago.
Difference is, most will have lost their ability to get behind the team, why...?
Consider this......, you go into work one particular day for a performance review in front of your colleagues and manager, because that's what the new manager wants you to do. You've been shown the ropes, trained and coached, and given your directives to achieve your goal, but all your colleagues heckle, boo and call you all the names under the sun, the moment you put your foot wrong. Your colleagues all then sit their quietly, offering no words of encouragement, and then they slope off, 10 or 15 minutes before the break, come back late, and then sod off home because things weren't going well.
Well folks, that's what our players experience every bloody game at the Etihad.
We either want to be part of the best period in our wonderful clubs history, and help the team achieve it, or it fails, because we can't get our shit together and show them we care, no matter what they try and do on the pitch.
In my 40 odd years of following City, I've heard and witnessed our crowds both destroy the team, and cheer them onto unexpected victories, it's nothing new.
Our Etihad crowd and atmosphere is the worst I've ever experienced.
It has now't to do with tourists, expensive beer and pies, poor road infrastructure, poor tram organisation, crap car park design, all seater stadiums, no smoking rules, Showsec, the aging demographic of our crowd, new fans, empty seats, the weather, KO times, or the price of tickets, It's us, the fans who couldn't show enough vocal support and passion so long as we've got a hole in our arse. WHY, supporter by definition supports, backs and encourages somebody or something. Shall we...?!
 
philiph20 said:
People might think i'm completely bonkers but the whole atmosphere/ match day experience over the last 3 years or so has made going to the match a real chore. It just feels so tepid and sterile and lifeless, people don't even get irate at refereeing decisions or flick the vs at away fans anymore, i don't know if it an age thing ( im in my 40s) or the feeling after the QPR game is an anti climax but i only go to games now out of duty. I think back to being a kid and big games and the like i could hardly sleep with nerves but now im just grumpy and pissed off and thinking i'd sooner try and get all the English and Scottish grounds in instead, perhaps i just hate modern football.
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I'm the same mate. It's definitely modern football to an extent, I still love away games, but home games... Jeez. I watched Chelsea yesterday and the noise in that stadium, 10k less or whatever, was terrific compared to ours. I know it's a bigger game which was a lot more action packed but still. The real depressing thing is I don't know what the answer is. You have 1894 doing their part but they can't change the attitude of the masses. People seem to genuinely expect us to roll over everyone and for the players to not need, or maybe the modern footballer not deserving, our support until they've 'entertained' us. It's embarrassing, I'll be honest.
 
The poor lady next to me sometimes nearly jumps out of her seat when I start shouting during the match, it's a good job I sit on the end of the row so it's only one person being 'inconvenienced'!! :-)

But, when I was in Canada recently (just showing off there folks!!) I went with my son and his family to watch the Vancouver Whitecaps game and there was very little shouting or anything apart from when a goal was scored, the seats were comfortable you could have a drink at your seat, not sure if it was alcohol though as we took our own, they did search you at the entrance but let you through with bottled drinks. The atmosphere was great though, there was a buzz in the air, it's hard to describe but you just felt that everyone was interested and 'investing' in the game. I kept thinking why doesn't it feel like this at City these days. As I say not a lot of shouting and cheering but a good buzz/vibe/feeling, not sterile as it is sometimes at the Etihad and other grounds around the country. Sorry, just my two penn'orth. :-)
 
Stretford Born Blue said:
I expect, whilst sat amongst the 9000 or so blues at The Swamp on Wednesday night, that the vast majority will sing themselves hoarse. That is the way, always is, always has been.
So, we play Barcelona next week. I expect the vast majority of fans at The Swamp will be sat at the Etihad, surrounded by other expectant fans, watching 2 of the best teams in Europe, and a good number of Individual players we'd have only dreamt about watching some years ago.
Difference is, most will have lost their ability to get behind the team, why...?
Consider this......, you go into work one particular day for a performance review in front of your colleagues and manager, because that's what the new manager wants you to do. You've been shown the ropes, trained and coached, and given your directives to achieve your goal, but all your colleagues heckle, boo and call you all the names under the sun, the moment you put your foot wrong. Your colleagues all then sit their quietly, offering no words of encouragement, and then they slope off, 10 or 15 minutes before the break, come back late, and then sod off home because things weren't going well.
Well folks, that's what our players experience every bloody game at the Etihad.
We either want to be part of the best period in our wonderful clubs history, and help the team achieve it, or it fails, because we can't get our shit together and show them we care, no matter what they try and do on the pitch.
In my 40 odd years of following City, I've heard and witnessed our crowds both destroy the team, and cheer them onto unexpected victories, it's nothing new.
Our Etihad crowd and atmosphere is the worst I've ever experienced.
It has now't to do with tourists, expensive beer and pies, poor road infrastructure, poor tram organisation, crap car park design, all seater stadiums, no smoking rules, Showsec, the aging demographic of our crowd, new fans, empty seats, the weather, KO times, or the price of tickets, It's us, the fans who couldn't show enough vocal support and passion so long as we've got a hole in our arse. WHY, supporter by definition supports, backs and encourages somebody or something. Shall we...?!
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The crowd get behind the team when it needs New stadiums lack atmosphere city is no different. A safe standing area would help .

Yes I remember how we never criticised our players at Maine road. Go and have a chat to Richard edgehill. Fucking ell he used to get hammered by the crowd. Absolutely hammered. The Maine road could be brutal at times to players and managers.
 
The atmosphere has declined as the expectations have grown.

Say pre 2008 and to an extent pre 2012/13 when our fans would go to games in hope of getting a result instead of expecting one, we felt the need to be the 12th man and help give the team an extra edge..Now it's a "well it's Bournemouth at home, we should roll them over" mentality so now, say it's 0-0 in the second half, instead of a "CMON CITYYY"...It's a "for fucksake why aren't we battering these already?"
 
some fair points here and true it is down to each individual fan not price of beer etc.

In 115 the atmosphere is quite good, some games better than others. West Ham & Bournemouth was good but the last two home games have died down a bit. The problem is songs dont spread and even people 3 or 4 blocks away that may join in cant hear the singing until more fans join in for "we've got guardiola". It beats me though that why behind the goals at a football match where we are stood up more fans dont join in singing or only pipe up when a goal is scored to sing "sergio sergio" . Not everybody goes to a game to sing, thats every bodies choice, but you would think behind the goals where we have around 3,000 fans a bigger percentage would sing.

Yesterday I waved a huge city flag as the players came on the pitch. As the team was announced two guys behind me didnt clap once just slagged off half the team as their names where mentioned and made comments like "he is ok" to odd players. As for the fans booing which I could even here in 115, it was disgraceful. Fans being negative like this dilutes the good fans who are there to support the club they have followed for decades.
 
yayas trusty right foot said:
City fans are quiet, that the top and bottom of it..

The only time we have a decent atmosphere is when we play utd ,liverpool or if we are chasing the game after coming from behind, or battling for a win after having a man sent off

I feel embarassed at some of the Champs League games, the away fans are always louder than us..

Pep must be thinking, what has he let himself in for..

There is not much we can do about it really, if people dont want to shout and sing at the game, what can we do to get them to change.
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Added a bit in as the Norwich and Millwall games in Keegans promotion season were two of the loudest I heard at Maine Road
 
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