United post-match thread

Rather than whinge an bitch because our reserve side were overpowered by a full strength red shit an a ref who only seemed to see the home side point of view, lets rise above those glory hunting c*nts pursuit of a shiny thing they disparaged for years an take a fresh look at what we saw.

We witnessed a young man coming of age wearing the shirt with pride, that he will go on to greater heights I have no doubts at all, he not only handled the media`s darling but found time to tangle with their most expensive player an won most of those along with the MOTM from the daily Telegraph no less.

We saw another youngster in Garcia continue to make solid progress in a weakened side against a very strong midfield line up and more than hold his own.

We even saw Wille looking more like a proper goalie.

So dont take this one to heart, it was a ragarse cup final not ours, just laugh at the silly fu*kers because the future is ours.
 
blueonblue said:
Rather than whinge an bitch because our reserve side were overpowered by a full strength red shit an a ref who only seemed to see the home side point of view, lets rise above those glory hunting c*nts pursuit of a shiny thing they disparaged for years an take a fresh look at what we saw.

We witnessed a young man coming of age wearing the shirt with pride, that he will go on to greater heights I have no doubts at all, he not only handled the media`s darling but found time to tangle with their most expensive player an won most of those along with the MOTM from the daily Telegraph no less.

We saw another youngster in Garcia continue to make solid progress in a weakened side against a very strong midfield line up and more than hold his own.

We even saw Wille looking more like a proper goalie.

So dont take this one to heart, it was a ragarse cup final not ours, just laugh at the silly fu*kers because the future is ours.
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Excellently put.
 
Roberto Manciti said:
Some amongst the frothing hoardes in this thread need to step back and get some perspective.

The first thing to note is that City are top, yes TOP of the PL. They're in first place!!! Quite the crisis, this!

The first team has so far played 16 competitive matches across three competitions this season. Of these, three have finished in defeat. All three were away from home.

The circumstances of those matches were:

v BARCELONA (A) 0-4 UCL: An away match in the Camp Nou against arguably the best club side in world football at this time. And City were giving them a game until the sending off of GK Bravo and having to defend against the best attacking trio in the world with ten players for the last 40 minutes. Despite the eventual scoreline, City can draw positives from the 11 v 11 period of the game. Nothing in this match should give rise to a 'press the panic button' mentality. At the outset, any impartial bookie would have expected a Barcelona win in this one.

v TOTTENHAM (A) 0-2 PL: If you accept that no team is likely to win the PL title undefeated in the current environment, which ties are most likely to produce a reverse? How about an away fixture against an in-form fellow title-contender? Yes, it would be great to have won at WHL. But Spuds are a team which will be challenging at the end of the season. A defeat there does not constitute a crisis. Meanwhile, City have also played away against another PL title contender (according to many pundits). The bunch at OT. And City won that one.

v MANCHESTER UNITED (A) 0-1 EFL Cup: Nine changes for City in this one. A second-string side pitted against the Rags' finest in a hostile derby atmosphere. City conceded once in this match, and if in allowing that goal Mr Bean ... sorry, Dean ... makes a blunder of that magnitude again this season I'll be amazed. Although his failure to award City a penalty and the booking of Iheanacho for falling over are right up there. This match was no vintage affair, but United didn't score a legitimate goal in 90 minutes against City's reserves. The result was decided by having Mr Bean in the middle.

Three matches have ended in draws. Celtic away (UCL) was played in a passionate derby cup-final atmosphere ... not easy. Draws against Everton and Southampton were slightly disappointing in view of them being home ties, but both are strong PL sides. Both are top half in the PL at this time and Everton will expect to challenge for a top four place.

And the other ten matches? CITY WON. And there were some tough fixtures in there. W10 - D3 - L3. There's no crisis to see here.

Did anyone genuinely expect Pep to come to a new club in an unfamiliar highly-competitive league and win everything straight off the bat? If so, you must be mad. City's transfer business in the Summer - signing the cream of world football's 18/19 year-olds is the giveaway: Pep's building for the future. The current team is in transition. The older guys are being phased out gradually. And yet with ten wins so far they're still doing just fine. None of the three defeats were a form-book 'upset'.

Chill out and enjoy the ride with Pep. Gabriel Jesus, Marlos Moreno, Leroy Sane, Oleksandr Zinchenko. Joining earlier youthful signings including Patrick Roberts, Enes Unal and Kelechi Iheanacho - now almost a first-team regular. And remember the prospects emerging from the academy: Maffeo, Garcia, Angelino, Adarabioyo, Diaz and so many more. There is so much to look forward to as this group increasingly play alongside "experienced" senior players such as Kevin De Bruyne, Raheem Sterling and John Stones. They're young too. All coached by the best manager in the game and backed by the most professional owners in the sport. The ingredients are in place for a golden era.

There has NEVER BEEN a better time to be a City fan! Stop moaning, show a little patience and enjoy what the next few seasons bring. SMILE! :-)
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This is such a good post!
 
Some blues still obsessed about the rags and the rags alone. We have a plan and bigger fish to fry. They looked like a fanbase where beating City was like their cup final. Just like it used to be for us.

Being out of that trophy is a blessing in disguise. As we are in transition, we still don't have the squad depth to rotate and our team strength not diminish. You can't expect the same 13 players to play with the intensity Pep demands every three days.
 
sir baconface said:
I actually agree with this. Although I don't mind challenging Pep on some stuff, I remain convinced he will move us up a level. He does know a tad more about football than I do ;) That's why I see the current poor run as just a blip.

Meanwhile, the rags will discover the price of sucking the devil's cock. I fcukin hope!
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Hopefully choke on it ?
 
Blue Mooner said:
Some blues still obsessed about the rags and the rags alone. We have a plan and bigger fish to fry. They looked like a fanbase where beating City was like their cup final. Just like it used to be for us.

Being out of that trophy is a blessing in disguise. As we are in transition, we still don't have the squad depth to rotate and our team strength not diminish. You can't expect the same 13 players to play with the intensity Pep demands every three days.
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We are not allowed to be in transition. We are moneybags City, when you've spent what we have blah blah blah....
 
SWP's back said:
I'd say a win and a draw (the point may be very important seeing as BMG will be playing Barca in a dead rubber which is always a worry) would justify Pep's choice in the short term.

That's obviously ignoring the 4 free midweeks we now have that we missed out on last season which makes 12 points in the league easier to come by in the long term.

I'd soon scrap the whole bloody competition like the Spanish and Germans.
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The two LC semi-finals in January (?) last season v Everton took a lot out of us and resulted in KDB getting injured. Although we got through and won the final, I reckon these two tough games impacted negatively on us, coming as they did just after one of the busiest spells of the football season and we never recovered from it in the league.
 
Having had nearly 24 hours to let the performance and result sink in, I am nowhere near as disappointed as I usually am after a derby defeat.

I thought Navas was MotM - he had fatty Shaw pissing out straight all game - but neither Maffeo and Garcia were very far behind him. They both proved that they are already good enough to play against mid-table teams.

And when you consider that the rags were the only team to play their best team, it shows how desperate scum and PEG have become.
 
Funny, isn't it? Google "United City penalty" and what comes up is the Bravo tackle on Rooney, not last night's nailed-on pen. Certainly no equivalent of "The penalty debate: Were United cruelly denied in their Manchester derby defeat to City?"
 
football has never been more demanding than nowadays, physically and mentally. To compete in four comps is not a viable proposition imho, so the team for last night was what we needed. Dippers will benefit from no euro involvement, like Leicester last season who played 17 (iirc) games less than us. To go for everything would require a much better squad than we have at the moment, in a couple of years maybe the academy will be onstream, and the target of two stars for every position will be met.
Last night was just a speed bump on the road to the very top...............
 
quiet_riot said:
Find it hard to believe that people think our second string outplayed their first XI. It was reasonably even for 45mns, I wouldn't say we were ever truly 'on top' - then after Vince went off our arse went, and after the goal we gave up. THAT is the disappointment - not the result.
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this is as spot on as it could be i think..well said quiet_riot
 
Lenblue said:
Emperor's New Clothes= Pep.
Hart decision was incorrect, the Toure situation is farcical , Aguero's treatment is poor, and the petulant banning of wifi is pathetic, we haven't won a game since. The first half v Southampton was the most boring game I have seen in many a year. If Pep went tomorrow , I wouldn't lose a wink of sleep.
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have you taken any positives at all from this season?
 
So we lost .
An experiment gone wrong.
Congratulations Peg.
On paper we should have been overawed and easily overcome by a strong team, but anyone who saw will know that was far from the truth.
Poor old Peg - the incredible shrinking man!
A lonely figure, down from his ivory tower, come to see his inherited 'team' , foul with impunity, dive more than Tom Daley and play dead better than Lassie!
The officials ' inability to see, Wenger like, all the gamesmanship taking place.
Pep saw it all - Peg knew that and slunk off like a thief in the night, in the absolute certainty that, even though they had triumphed , that we had played the game the way it ought to be played. Kids and all!
 
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