Why? The people involved are still alive and should still be held accountable.
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Battle Of Orgreave
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Why? The people involved are still alive and should still be held accountable.
Chippy_boy
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So you think it is acceptable (or maybe your even in favour) for the custodians of law and order in this country to ignore the law, and lie to the court?
32 years ago? Fine by me.
Chippy_boy
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Why? The people involved are still alive and should still be held accountable.
No, we should move on.
32 years ago? Fine by me.
Is that for any crimes or is there a sliding scale? It's just that Rolf and a few BBC Dj's are interested.
No, we should move on.
We absolutely should not move on.
Chippy_boy
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Is that for any crimes or is there a sliding scale? It's just that Rolf and a few BBC Dj's are interested.
You've answered your own question. A sense of reasonableness and proportionality applies here Stony. You seem to be wanting to deal with ideals, when the world is not ideal. An inquest is not free and (and incidentally not guaranteed to yield any meaningful conclusion). In short, it would be a waste of time and money. Maybe you'd like to chip in a few quid to pay for it? I wouldn't.
Chippy_boy
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We absolutely should not move on.
Yes, we should and more importantly, WE HAVE. There will be no inquiry. Get over it.
Prestwich_Blue
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Scargill and his mates weren't there for a picnic or peaceful protest. They were there mob-handed to stop coke lorries leaving the plant by fair means or foul, as they'd done at Saltley. I've no more sympathy for him than I have for SYP (and that's not a great deal as they were and still are a bunch of lying bastards).How the fuck is it appropriate? Do you honestly believe it's appropriate for a policeman to hit someone because of his political beliefs? Fucking outrageous statement.
bronco
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You seem happy that a government can basically turn the UK into a police state with the help of the army to justify a political aim - do you have a photo of the north Korean leader on your mantelpiece?Angry violent mob suppressed by a bit of heavy handed policing. Oh dear, what a shame, never mind.
I do not want a solitary penny of my tax money spent on a pointless enquiry about a non-event 32 years ago. Honestly this should not even have made the news today.
Can I just add that Andy Burnham is a joke.
Chippy_boy
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You seem happy that a government can basically turn the UK into a police state with the help of the army to justify a political aim - do you have a photo of the north Korean leader on your mantelpiece?
No, do you have a photo of Citizen Smith?
Scargill and his mates weren't there for a picnic or peaceful protest. They were there mob-handed to stop coke lorries leaving the plant by fair means or foul, as they'd done at Saltley. I've no more sympathy for him than I have for SYP (and that's not a great deal as they were and still are a bunch of lying bastards).
Neatly dodged. A policeman hit a man for his political beliefs, do you think that is acceptable?
Chippy_boy
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Neatly dodged. A policeman hit a man for his political beliefs, do you think that is acceptable?
You're dealing with principles again Stony. The world runs on practical realities, not principles. It was 32 years ago - enough said.
It isn't acceptable, not now and not then.You're dealing with principles again Stony. The world runs on practical realities, not principles. It was 32 years ago - enough said.
Utter bobbins
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Neatly dodged. A policeman hit a man for his political beliefs, do you think that is acceptable?
Turn that one around is that acceptable
Mustard Dave
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Neatly dodged. A policeman hit a man for his political beliefs, do you think that is acceptable?
No he didn't. He clobbered him because he was acting like a twat by using intimidation to force his beliefs on the nation. I doubt the copper would have felt the urge to clobber him if he'd just written an angry article for the Morning Star.
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Orgreave will never be investigated by tories because of Nicholas Ridleys report for them in 1977, whislch.laid out a systematic plan to destroy major industry in this country to ease it's move into private hands as the tories wanted.
The Tories were planning to use the nation’s police force as a weapon against any who dared to resist their determination to put the nation’s treasure into private pockets.
On the penultimate and final pages of the report, Ridley talks of creating ‘mobile police squads’ in readiness for what he had already termed a ‘battle’ to force through their plans – and for preparing teams of non-union drivers in advance who could breach picket lines under police protection.
So the police were not randomly rogue but following vile orders by an already laid out idiolocal plan by the party that had no issues with using the state against it's citizens.
The Tories were planning to use the nation’s police force as a weapon against any who dared to resist their determination to put the nation’s treasure into private pockets.
On the penultimate and final pages of the report, Ridley talks of creating ‘mobile police squads’ in readiness for what he had already termed a ‘battle’ to force through their plans – and for preparing teams of non-union drivers in advance who could breach picket lines under police protection.
So the police were not randomly rogue but following vile orders by an already laid out idiolocal plan by the party that had no issues with using the state against it's citizens.
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hilts
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We haven't had a good inquiry for a couple of weeks so I'm all for it, getting a dig off a copper can certainly scar you for life, plus Burnhams profile amongst the working classes rises.
Is there a petition or fund floating about for theses mucky faced Yorkshire folk?
Is there a petition or fund floating about for theses mucky faced Yorkshire folk?
He acted outside the law and against the very oath he swore to uphold. He's a **** and so is anyone who sticks up for him.No he didn't. He clobbered him because he was acting like a twat by using intimidation to force his beliefs on the nation. I doubt the copper would have felt the urge to clobber him if he'd just written an angry article for the Morning Star.
Not sure what your point is?Turn that one around is that acceptable