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Trying to look for positives this morning, perhaps, just perhaps, he isn't the buffoon we all assume him to be.

We can criticise all we like the idiotic things he's done and said, but at the end of the day, he's won. So maybe he's a lucky idiot. Or perhaps he's simply realised he couldn't fight Hilary on the experience and policies ticket and therefore as a shrewd operator, he's devised a strategy to win using the cards he's dealt with. i.e. stay off policy debates, keep spouting populist bullshit and keep banging away about Hilary being a crook.

It is not inconceivable that he is actually going to be a whole lot better a president than people assume. I remember similar disgust when Reagan won and yet he's regarded as one of the better presidents of the modern era.
 
If he got banged up for fraud or rape before his inauguration in January or if he got assassinated, would Pence be inaugurated as President?
 
That is fucking hilarious. Every single twat who works for polling company should be sacked, they are fucking useless.

Bring on the carnage :-D

If a polling company asks people how they are going to vote and the people being asked lie, then there's not a lot they can do about it, is there. We saw EXACTLY this with the Brexit vote.
 
Its going to be an interesting next 4 years for us all in the UK and the USA..........a big fuck you to the establishment but will it bite us all on the arse.
 
If a polling company asks people how they are going to vote and the people being asked lie, then there's not a lot they can do about it, is there. We saw EXACTLY this with the Brexit vote.

You mean they are totally useless and it is folly to do what they attempt, great, glad we agree :-D
 
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Hillary is now ahead in the popular vote 58,879,687 to 58,844,144.
A whole 35,543 ahead, not that it's relevant.
 
Looking at the popular vote it is neck and neck, so proves what a divided country it is.

Just like the UK the professional politicians and civil service will stall anything that Trump tries to do that they don't agree with.

I think it shows how strange the Americans are when the only candidates they can come up with for president are a dodgy career politician and a dodgy businessman come reality TV personality.

Good luck to the USA is all I can say.
 
If a polling company asks people how they are going to vote and the people being asked lie, then there's not a lot they can do about it, is there. We saw EXACTLY this with the Brexit vote.
It's not so much lying as a recognised phenomenon in market research. People who hold strong, emotionally-driven opinions, opinions that they cannot justify intellectually, tend to mask those views from researchers and opt for a less-controversial stance when questioned.
 
Looking at the popular vote it is neck and neck, so proves what a divided country it is.

Just like the UK the professional politicians and civil service will stall anything that Trump tries to do that they don't agree with.

I think it shows how strange the Americans are when the only candidates they can come up with for president are a dodgy career politician and a dodgy businessman come reality TV personality.

Good luck to the USA is all I can say.


I think America would be great if they had Neil DeGrass Tyson and SLJ as a double team, send SLJ to put the hammer down and NDJ to form policy.
 
The 'establishment' and the liberal bubbles they live in ignore the concerns of the 'real people' . The 'real people' may be ignorant,prejudiced, ill informed but they should be respected. As with Brexit there is a reaction to being told we are bigoted , racist,little Englanders etc.

There is lot in what you say, I deplore Trump and think it's a sad day for the world but he is a creation of the political class system and the spin culture that has emerged
 
It's not so much lying as a recognised phenomenon in market research. People who hold strong, emotionally-driven opinions, opinions that they cannot justify intellectually, tend to mask those views from researchers and opt for a less-controversial stance when questioned.

Or they might just think

What the f has it got to do with anyone how I vote.


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