Hull (a) Post Match Thread

Prestwich_Blue said:
Why is it contradictory? Yaya does it, Silva does it, KDB does it, Sterling often does it. Players rarely make decisive runs into the box or open up space.

That second goal was a prime example. KDB has the ball and Silva is outside him. When I played, I was told the killer pass was inside the full back for the wide player to run onto. But Silva's hanging back, clearly expecting a square pass in front of the defender. KDB tells him what he's going to do so he accelerates into the space in front of him and gets a yard on the full back. He then has room to pull a beautiful ball to Iheanacho. But he shouldn't need to be told. Silva should be telling KDB where to put the ball.

We do actually use that sort of pass sometimes, particularly when Zab's at right fullback, where KDB has the ball about 25 yards on the right and Zab is slightly ahead of him on the touchline. He plays a beautifully weighted vertical pass inside the defender, into space, that Zab runs onto. It should be devastating but our players are too often all standing on the edge of the 18 yard area watching. When we get it right, like the 3rd against Barcelona, then it's usually a goal.
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The inside ball to Zab was one of the most used routes to a goal under Mancini. Time and again, especially in the last 15/20 mins, when teams were tiring, YaYa, Silva and Zab would set up that move, often to devastating effect.
 
Bravo getting a bit of stick in the press. "Can cause alarm at a moments notice" that from the mails report, think they must mean when Sagna headed off line.

Wonder what the consensus is from those at the game?
 
johnnytapia said:
19 home games. 18 wins, one draw. Yep, nothing routine about that.
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Doesn't matter if we are taking the points at home or away does it?

And you still missed the point which is that we didn't always hammer the "small" teams.

Do people not even read before engaging their brain to post a reply now?
 
chaddblue said:
Could be, I only realised he wasn't on the bench when somebody told me he was injured. Don't know where he got it from
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Dutch reporter quoted Sane was ill. But than again, that man spouted so much rubbish during and after the game I tend to believe he got that one wrong as well.
 
Peggy's a blue said:
Bravo getting a bit of stick in the press. "Can cause alarm at a moments notice" that from the mails report, think they must mean when Sagna headed off line.

Wonder what the consensus is from those at the game?
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It was at the far end but he seemed to move towards the ball stop in the middle point between ball and goal, lucky Sanga was on the cover cos we weren't looking at our best at that stage of the game.
 
i kne albert davy said:
It was at the far end but he seemed to move towards the ball stop in the middle point between ball and goal, lucky Sanga was on the cover cos we weren't looking at our best at that stage of the game.
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He came out for the ball, got nowhere near it but thankfully headed off the line.
Sadly he does not fill me with confidence.

I wonder if all these January transfer denials mean that we are in for somebody? We wont be playing Hull every match! I wish we looked less exposed at the back.
 
SWP's back said:
Doesn't matter if we are taking the points at home or away does it?

And you still missed the point which is that we didn't always hammer the "small" teams.

Do people not even read before engaging their brain to post a reply now?
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In the 2012 season, we scored 59 goals against teams in the bottom ten. And conceded 16. And took a possible 52 points from 60 . If you think Mancini didn’t have City regularly beating lower opposition, fine. I disagree. Mancini utterly transformed City’s mentality against all teams, “smaller” ones included.
 
johnnytapia said:
In the 2012 season, we scored 59 goals against teams in the bottom ten. And conceded 16. And took a possible 52 points from 60 . If you think Mancini didn’t have City regularly beating lower opposition, fine. I disagree. Mancini utterly transformed City’s mentality against all teams, “smaller” ones included.
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Of all of our managers in recent history we owe Mancini the most. Lets see if Pep can overtake that.
 
johnnytapia said:
In the 2012 season, we scored 59 goals against teams in the bottom ten. And conceded 16. And took a possible 52 points from 60 . If you think Mancini didn’t have City regularly beating lower opposition, fine. I disagree. Mancini utterly transformed City’s mentality against all teams, “smaller” ones included.
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Can you give your strawman a fucking rest.

Results against teams that were relegated or finished 17th have already been posted.

None of that denigrates what Mancini did, it simply lets bell ends who state "we used to destroy teams [as opposed to 3-0 away wins at Hull] and now we can't...."
 
SWP's back said:
Can you give your strawman a fucking rest.

Results against teams that were relegated or finished 17th have already been posted.

None of that denigrates what Mancini did, it simply lets bell ends who state "we used to destroy teams [as opposed to 3-0 away wins at Hull] and now we can't...."
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Our record against Hull in 2011/12 was utterly nondescript.
 
Not had chance to post since the match ended, but great result albeit not the best performance. I thought overall Otamendi was excellent and others have mentioned Yaya was superb controlling the midfield and keeping the ball moving.

One criticism is we need to move the ball quicker and look to shoot more rather than try and create the perfect goal. But onwards and upwards a win is a win
 
SWP's back said:
Can you give your strawman a fucking rest.

Results against teams that were relegated or finished 17th have already been posted.

None of that denigrates what Mancini did, it simply lets bell ends who state "we used to destroy teams [as opposed to 3-0 away wins at Hull] and now we can't...."
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Give your selective use of stats a rest too. The 2012 Mancini team put every single team, bar Sunderland, to the sword. Often twice. And often convincingly. Home and Away. There’s nothing “straw man” about it. Facts. Plain and simple.
 
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