Referees/Officials

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Does anyone know how many potential points City have missed because of poor officiating?
Versus Chelsea
Six points gap their game (win for us converted to loss)
Two points gap after spurs game

That's the most obvious games, but even those cut the gap to four points and city in second place.

Thats right, just four points, despite them being on an unbelievable run and no CL, despite us missing key players to injury or suspension, despite our own errors such as missing penalties, despite own ageing, weak midfield and full back positions.
 
To be fair at the Arsenal game they were winning 1-0 when 7 mins went up. Burnley scored so it's at least another 30 seconds plus the time taken to take the pen etc. I don't think that was an issue. Can't comment on the rags game minutes as didn't watch.
The whole thing is bent IMO. If you watched the Southampton Leicester game today, identical push on Southamptons Shane Long as was on Stirling twice yesterday however Southampton get the pen. At the very least the refereeing inconsistency is diabolical at worst it's totally bent.
 
It's really coming to a head now. The standard of officiating, as I include linesman in this, in the league is at an all time low. This weekend alone saw game changing mistakes in games involving 4 of the top 5 sides. The issue is most of the wrong calls aren't even on contentious decisions. A lot of them are easy calls that 4 officials should have no problem getting correct between them.

I would like to believe they are just shit but the level of incompetence is remarkable. I really am not sure if there are alterior motives behind some of the decisions. For everyone saying there's no way it can be kept quiet; Remember South Korea in the World Cup? Blatantly fixed but nothing ever came out.
I am still not convinced it is fixed but the more bad decisions are made the more I begin to think it is. Regardless, something needs doing.
 
Does anyone know how many potential points City have missed because of poor officiating?

And let's not forget the points that have been shovelled to other teams with favourable decisions. We all know the leg-ups MANUre have had over the seasons and the fact that the FArce would do nothing about FatScouseGit reffing games by proxy and by their inaction condoned the fuckin' high board antics of Ash the Crash and FakeRon when he was down The Swamp. It all adds up, and it is so obvious.
 
Just one of many occasions down the years.

The GPC years when they got away with everything.

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Yet we still have to put up with a writing of what happens which will then be come gospel . So the reframing begins and once again the carpet and brush appear

The sycophant and self indulgent Spurs fan Kelly on talksport
"It would all have been put to bed if sterling had been given off side like he should have "
 
So similarly would giving decisions in our favour against the likes of Burnley also. Why do they not follow the money with us if that is the reason for the bias? We are currently, according to latest reports, one of the Big five clubs.

Oh ok so you would agree with me that it is crooked if City is included in the Big Clubs but not otherwise?

City is still not considered Big from TV audience point of view what MU/Ars/Chelsea draw as our recent run of success started less than 5 years ago. On top of it we are considered a middle eastern club. So no we are not getting the same calls as others yet - maybe if the system remained as corrupt as it is and we still managed to win a few titles then we will start getting offside goals that MU enjoys.
 
Desperately clinging to the idea that these decisions balance out over the course of a season. If not, then the integrity of the sport we all love is gone and institutionalised corruption wins again.
 
Oh ok so you would agree with me that it is crooked if City is included in the Big Clubs but not otherwise?

City is still not considered Big from TV audience point of view what MU/Ars/Chelsea draw as our recent run of success started less than 5 years ago. On top of it we are considered a middle eastern club. So no we are not getting the same calls as others yet - maybe if the system remained as corrupt as it is and we still managed to win a few titles then we will start getting offside goals that MU enjoys.
Never going to happen.
 
You always look for black and white Frank, when in reality there are usually just shades of grey. So there's no men stroking white cats and plotting the demise of Manchester City. Fine. There are however, individuals whose integrity is such that they're prepared to be disingenuous about which team they support, and who pass themselves off as "fans" of minnow clubs in neighbouring counties in order to then render themselves eligible to referee the teams they supported as children. There are also (I would imagine, as I cannot prove or disprove it) individuals susceptible to the subliminal pressure heaped on them by the head of the FA touring the world and announcing that a weak Manchester United is bad for business, and by the media whose advertising revenues are adversely affected by United, the Dippers and the Arse not being top of the tree, and by the foam flecked managers of those clubs who pressurise and pressurise and pressurise and use that compliant media to humiliate and denigrate those officials that dare to give big decisions against them, to the point that those individuals may not give those decisions unless they are 100% clear cut at one ground (ie the Swamp), but will give them when they're clearly only 50% certain at other grounds. And then there is the level of personal ambition to consider. Officials are doubtless no different to anyone else in their desire to rise to the top of their profession and manage the truly big games at the truly big clubs. Just like politics, refereeing is show business for ugly people. So when they watch one of their colleagues get ostracised from the Swamp for 15 months (as once happened to Martin Atkinson) for daring to give the opposition (Portsmouth if memory serves) a penalty at Old Toilet and causing Whiskey Nose to tear him to shreds in the press, do you think that might render them more or less inclined to give unpopular decisions when they themselves get the gig?
There are many factors that common sense must tell you are likely at play then, but nothing that you can point to and say with cast-iron certainty, "Yeah, wham, there it is, corruption!"

What I do know for sure then is that while adverse decisions do get given against United and Liverpool and Arsenal, a great many more do not, whilst the reverse is true of City. When was the last time we got a 90th minute game changing penalty of the type Arsenal got today? At home to Spurs 5 years ago? And even then it had to be so nailed on as to be preposterous not to give it. And then there was Sterling last year against Everton in injury time not given, the ludicrous penalty involving the same player against Spurs last season, the non-sending off of David Luiz, the 4 (count them, 4) clear red cards that should have been shown to Rojo and Big Nose in the space of 6 weeks, the Feghouli sending off, or going back further Phil Dowd sending off 2 Newcastle players for nothing at Klanfield on the final game of the season in 2014 to try and help the Dippers snatch the title from us when they were losing, or yesterday when Andre Marriner didn't book Song for the EXACT same offence he booked Aguero for at Burnley 6 weeks earlier, I could go on and on, but suffice to say when was the last time City got a huge decision like that in our favour? Whether you're dealing with intentional or unintentional bias, the result is the same. The team that espouses the best football and enjoys greater possession than any other in the league, somehow top of the red and yellow cards table (and the same thing happened to Pellegrini in 2015 I think).

Yeh, there probably aren't hordes of officials deliberately out to get us (although I will never include Taylor or Mason in any list of the innocent), but equally there's plenty of evidence that City routinely get the shitty end of the refereeing stick compared to any team that plays in red. Let the scales fall away mate......

Good post that. I think you're right, in that the career aspirations/self preservation of refs is a major factor. Make a bad/contentious call against one of the established top clubs, and you won't ref them again for a while. Their managers and the press will see to that.
 
Manchester City manager Pep Guardiola has already met Mike Riley to discuss decisions he is unhappy about, despite stating after the 2-2 Premier League that he wants the referees’ head to explain why his side were denied a penalty. http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...eeting-victims-kyle-walker-foul-a7540566.html

I take no pleasure in calling a referee out but after such a lacklustre display - not the first from Andre Marriner this season – it's only fair to do so.

Marriner appeared unfocused and off the pace throughout this top of the table clash.

As a result he was poorly positioned for the key decision which swung the game away from Manchester City.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4146140/Andre-Marriner-pace-City-s-draw-Spurs.html#ixzz4WXFMZUze
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How was that not a penalty for Hull ?? It's just pathetic now.
What made me even more mad was the BBC refusing to show it out of some ridiculous claim that it would be inappropriate after the injury, but they then go on to show 3 minutes of other highlights from the game?

They didn't even have the decency to say Hull should have had a clear penalty. Bloody disgusting.
 

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