What has the UK become?

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

Can not see how processing centres would help, if they were denied entry they would be off to find the nearest rubber dinghy.

Is it wrong for people to be sick and tired of illegal immigration?

Somebody has to pay to house and feed them.

If they resorted to crossing by Dinghy rather than applying through a processing centre then we would be in our rights to turn them back (this is the assumption that the Australians use) .

They are not ''illegal'' until they have had their application heard and denied. Over 80% are found to be genuine asylum seekers (Under the criteria listed in the UN Refugee Convention of 1951) ... this increases to close to 85% on appeal.

So the actual numbers which are illegal is very small and they should be deported as soon as a decision is reached. However because the Tories slashed the number of case workers there is now a huge backlog and it is taking up to 2 years for an initial decision , this is why they are having to be housed in hotel accommodation at the tax payers expense. There is also a shortage of Return officers.

The UK has the second highest backlog of asylum applications (behind Germany) in Europe despite the UK receiving one of the lowest number of applications in Europe (19th out of 27)



An asylum applicant receives a daily allowance of £1.27 a day . From this they are expected to buy clothes and toiletries, its hardly a fortune compared to the £87.1 billion committed by the Tories to defence by 2030

The UK’s asylum backlog - Migration Observatory

This briefing note examines what we know about the UK’s asylum backlog, its causes, and its consequences.

migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk

The small boat crossings are not really the major problem that is being reported on MSM and in the press

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[MadchesterCity]

They’re taking the easy money, just like Rwanda.

They offered for us to set up a processing centre on their soil and we refused.

We could stop the boats tomorrow if we wanted to, but we don’t seem to really want to, just think up dead cat schemes.

If the situation was reversed, you’d not be campaigning for them to be stopped, so the French won’t either, however much we pay them.

Rwanda is our only hope, I fear its already far too late

 

[BobKowalski]

Ive been living in London for 3 years because of work and it’s such a fucking shithole I can't even describe. Ive been left wing all my life but can see how living here can change a person, it truly is the arsehole of England.

I love London. Loved working there, loved living there and love going there. It’s a great city.

 

[BobKowalski]

Rwanda is our only hope, I fear its already far too late

The idea that people risking their lives to come here will be deterred by the extremely small chance of being sent to Rwanda is, to put it politely, wishful thinking.

 

[MadchesterCity]

The idea that people risking their lives to come here will be deterred by the extremely small chance of being sent to Rwanda is, to put it politely, wishful thinking.

Well it needs to be a certainty that they are sent to Rwanda, we are full for unskilled migrants
Immigration is a good thing if managed correctly and we are only getting the cream of the crop not the dregs

 

[BobKowalski]

Well it needs to be a certainty that they are sent to Rwanda, we are full for unskilled migrants
Immigration is a good thing if managed correctly and we are only getting the cream of the crop not the dregs

There will be no certainty. Firstly, Rwanda are taking a few hundred at best and charging us a fortune for doing so and sending their own refugees to us in return. Secondly, there will be court challenges which will add even more cost and delay.

This policy is spectacularly dumb. It is so dumb I can’t even get worked up about it. The Govt has to simultaneously believe that Rwanda is a safe place to traffic people and yet also be a deterrent to people literally risking their lives to come here. This cognitive dissonance has rotted what was left of this Govts capacity to govern.

I swear, this entire Rwanda nonsense is a experiment to see how stupid you can be in governing a country and see how many gullible idiots you can get to support them.

Brexit was the first attempt and we pegged about half the country as dumb. Now we are getting down to the really hardcore stupid.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Well it needs to be a certainty that they are sent to Rwanda, we are full for unskilled migrants
Immigration is a good thing if managed correctly and we are only getting the cream of the crop not the dregs

How do you know they are unskilled? Nobody is interviewing them they are just arriving and being stuck in hotels. By the law of averages some will be qualified and trained.

We clear the backlog it will cost a mere £100,000,000,000 on the figures quoted. Do you think a competent Govt wouldn't find a better use for that sum of money?

 

[mexico1970]

Well it needs to be a certainty that they are sent to Rwanda, we are full for unskilled migrants
Immigration is a good thing if managed correctly and we are only getting the cream of the crop not the dregs

You're banging your head against a brick wall mate :)

 

[stonerblue]

So how many are leaving in overcrowded rubber dinghies from our shores, that’s right nobody.

We are paying millions to the French to stop this illegal form of entry, and typical of that nation they stand around twiddling their fingers.

Their efforts are about as effective as their much vaunted Maginot line was at stopping the German invasion.

ffs

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

You're banging your head against a brick wall mate :)

Flag day over, time to revert to hating foreign people.