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to be fair to shearer he was right about the 2nd Villa penalty. A lot of nonsense being spouted about getting the ball, irrelevant if you've already taken the guy out. MOTD was much better without Hansen, shame he's not leaving till next summer.

Re: City & The Arse and the Champs League Pots Ill-informed nonsense. We need to be in pot 3. The danger teams are in pot 3 not 2 this year. EDIT: Atletico, Milan and PSG are in Pot 2. Dortmund, Juventus, Ajax and Galatasaray are in Pot 3. PSG would obviously not be easy, but I would...

Nobody is saying there's no room for him. There's room for Barry. But there is no room for them in the strongest 11 to take on Europe.

there's something slightly iffy when it's acceptable for people to call others "pricks" because they don't agree with them. sensible discussion. I like James Milner, but if we're looking at his abilities as a footballer objectively it's impossible to draw any conclusion other than one which...

He wasn't. What he said is true. Milner is unskilful and very limited and low quality. He is hard working and professional and if he was as skilful as his effort levels he'd be as good as messi, but that doesn't make him good enough in terms of providing quality needed to succeed in Champions...

Yaya didn't even travel and was training at Carrington: 2nd from left:

Pretty certain that this is yaya in the training gallery from the website that was posted this morning that had only players not on international duty on it. so assume he hasn't gone on any flight. 2nd from left:

Agree. I hated the games when Mancini played Kolarov at left wing. It was and is shit. Pellegrini won't do that I'm 99% sure of.

This. People jumping on the bandwagon because there were 3 goals conceded in a friendly match.

Re: New Nike Kit 13/14? (Merged) on a random point, it appears they're having a mixed zone this year. Also, only Fulham, Liverpool, Stoke, Palace, Spurs and West Ham have smaller pitches than the 105x68 norm.

they had some loudmouth on 15 minutes ago saying we should be disgraced with the club for not signing isco. Said he couldn't understand why we didn't sign him. presume he's never heard of Real Madrid and the fact that isco is Spanish.

*That* goal was deflected. lol. Legend in my eyes but if the question is how good a player is Dickov, it's obvious that he was limited. When people say "a team of Dickov's/Milner's would give anyone a run for their money" is of course bollocks because hard work is worth nothing without skill.

Not a rag. 17 years season ticket holder. I included Paul Lake. Bit of a funny one. It never materialised how good he was or not because of his injury, so nobody knows how good or not he may have been. So we don't know. But people say as though it's certain he'd have been England captain etc...

add zabaleta to the list. M. Johnson A. Johnson C. Tevez G. Kinkladze. Paul Lake.

I stand corrected. If expected teams qualify it's looking like we get a group of: Bayern / Barca / Real / Porto / Benfica (Pot 1) Atletico / Lyon / Shakhtar / Milan / Schalke / Marseille / CSKA / PSG (Pot 2) Leverkusen / FC Copenhagen / Napoli / Anderlecht / Celtic / Steaua Bucuresti / APOEL...

I think we've sneaked into pot 2 again this year but in many ways would've been easier in pot 3.

3 years.

Surely if you think someone isn't very good, but then you think that you're wrong, then you actually think they are good.

Navas 10/10 Fernandinho 9/10 Jovetic 9/10 Negredo 8/10

biggest non-story of the summer.