“The work of God”?

journolud said:
Sadly the Catholic Church has a lot to answer for in respect of covering up child abuse but it’s not as simple as saying that Catholicism condones and encourages it. Paedophiles will put themselves in a position where they have access to potential victims, the church is a great cover.

i speak as someone who spent time in a Catholic care and education system and while spared the worst of what we know happened to vulnerable children experienced enough to know there were individuals who should have been nowhere near children (or the church for that matter) but also met with kindness and compassion. Less to do with the religion they were attached to and more to do with the type of people they were
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Bingo.

“for those that cause the little ones to sin, it would be better for them to have a milestone tied to their neck and dropped out at sea, than having to deal with me” - Jesus Christ.

He despises paedophiles.
 
journolud said:
Seeing as you don’t believe he’s real a lot of effort going into hedging your bets about how bad he is on the off chance he does exist.

I don’t follow a religion myself and neither believe or disbelieve in the existence of God (although I know which way I would lean) but I believe the essence of Christianity would be found in the New Testament and the story of Jesus, not in Old Testament tales
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Maybe the essence is in the new, but the reality also lies within the old, or that creation and the Noah bit was just made up. Maybe the mad mullers and scribes that wrote them both said fuck me, we have made god look a right nasty piece of work in our first edition. And so they said, write a new version sharpish were he is pure brilliant with everyone.
 
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Two Gun Bob said:
Maybe the essence is in the new but the reality lies within the old or the creation and Noah was just made up bullshit.
Maybe the mad muller lights and scribes that wrote them both said fook me we have made god look a right old nasty piece of work here. And so they all said, write a new version sharpish were he is pure brilliant with everyone.
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Well, it’s a thought...

My understanding (albeit limited) is that the modern thinking is that much of the more fantastical elements of the bubble stories are not to be taken literally but are rather allegorical, or is that metaphorical? You get the gist
 
Ban-jani said:
Absolutely correct with your first line, some of my best mates are atheists and I used to be one.

I have no problem with disagreement, life would be boring if we all agreed. Some of my mates are even Rags.

I am not going to be offended by whatever you think.

Im glad I’m up there on your list, who’s number one btw lol?

The hell point is a good one, but it can be explained. Hell isn’t for rejecting Christ, it’s for sin, Christ is merely the mechanism to avoid it. Like you don’t die from not seeing a doctor, you die from disease, but the doctor is what saves you from disease.
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Why do I want saving? I haven't killed anyone or shagged my neighbours wife. I plod on like the rest of us and live life to the best of my ability with the hand I was dealt. So just because I say gods a bit of a bellsniff and I dont visit him on the sabbath It follows I have to burn in hellfire. Well that is not very nice at all now is it?. Have a rethink Ban because the lads not a full shilling.
 
Ban-jani said:
The hell point is a good one, but it can be explained. Hell isn’t for rejecting Christ, it’s for sin.
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As an atheist, I am clearly not up on the full ins and outs on how religions work exactly.
(Though I did have a practicing Catholic mum, but she allowed us to choose our own path and the only thing she insisted on was we didn't eat meat on Good Friday, something both my sis and myself continue to do to this day, 35 years after her passing. Not for our beliefs, but out of respect for hers)

But could you live the life as a sinner of the highest grade, and then repent and ask for forgiveness at the end of your mortal coil. God would then forgive, and even someone as evil as Hitler, Bundy or Ferguson would avoid the hot place?
 
MCFCTrick said:
As an atheist, I am clearly not up on the full ins and outs on how religions work exactly.
(Though I did have a practicing Catholic mum, but she allowed us to choose our own path and the only thing she insisted on was we didn't eat meat on Good Friday, something both my sis and myself continue to do to this day, 35 years after her passing. Not for our beliefs, but out of respect for hers)

But could you live the life as a sinner of the highest grade, and then repent and ask for forgiveness at the end of your mortal coil. God would then forgive, and even someone as evil as Hitler, Bundy or Ferguson would avoid the hot place?
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I think an all seeing or all knowing God would know if repentance was true and genuine.
 
Two Gun Bob said:
Why do I want saving? I haven't killed anyone or shagged my neighbours wife. I plod on like the rest of us and live life to the best of my ability with the hand I was dealt. So just because I say gods a bit of a bellsniff and I dont visit him on the sabbath It follows I have to burn in hellfire. Well that is not very nice at all now is it?. Have a rethink Ban because the lads not a full shilling.
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You don’t have to be saved, that’s the point, you’re free to go whatever way you wish. God didn’t design hell, it’s the only place He isn’t, so if you think he’s a bell sniff, and you don’t like him, that’s your decision, you’re free to go.

Hell as a concept has taken on a lot of meanings and descriptions that aren’t New Testament.

P.s I’m intrigued, who’s number 1 poster on Bluemoon?
 
Ban-jani said:
You don’t have to be saved, that’s the point, you’re free to go whatever way you wish. God didn’t design hell, it’s the only place He isn’t, so if you think he’s a bell sniff, and you don’t like him, that’s your decision, you’re free to go.

Hell as a concept has taken on a lot of meanings and descriptions that aren’t New Testament.

P.s I’m intrigued, who’s number 1 poster on Bluemoon?
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he isn't real. It isn't real. There's no choice. It's not there.
 
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