“The work of God”?

[Two Gun Bob]

You don’t have to be saved, that’s the point, you’re free to go whatever way you wish. God didn’t design hell, it’s the only place He isn’t, so if you think he’s a bell sniff, and you don’t like him, that’s your decision, you’re free to go.

Hell as a concept has taken on a lot of meanings and descriptions that aren’t New Testament.

P.s I’m intrigued, who’s number 1 poster on Bluemoon?

I am indeed free to go, as was I always with or without a promissory note. However I'm sadly out of debate because my own omnipresent one has just said verily unto me that if her boxing day dinner is not ready to serve at the half time mark then I may have to wank away in the wilderness for forty days and nights. Last nights left over chicken is now carved, the petit pois and carrots are bowled up, the Yorkshires are in the oven and the mash pellets are buttered milked and done to perfection. Just needs microwaving and the all important'e Bisto-Best adding at 20.45 and bobs yer uncle.
Happy are those called to this supper : /

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

I'm sadly out because my omnipresent one has just said unto me verily that if her boxing day dinner is not ready to serve at the half time mark then I may have to wank away in the wilderness for forty days and nights. Last nights left over chicken is carved, the petit pois and carrots are bowled up, the yorkshires are in the oven and the mash pellets are buttered milked and done to perfection. Just needs microwaving and bisto best adding at 20.45 and bobs yer uncle. Happy are those called to this supper : /

I'm out because my omnibenevolent, omnipotent fairy in the sky has given me everything I want, when I want it because they can do so and can't not completely love me so have to give it to me...

I'm off to spend my lottery winnings.

 

[Two Gun Bob]

I'm out because my omnibenevolent, omnipotent fairy in the sky has given me everything I want, when I want it because they can do so and can't not completely love me so have to give it to me...

I'm off to spend my lottery winnings.

There is too much of this lottery winning going on at the moment and where it will end I do not no.

 

[Ban-jani]

As an atheist, I am clearly not up on the full ins and outs on how religions work exactly.
(Though I did have a practicing Catholic mum, but she allowed us to choose our own path and the only thing she insisted on was we didn't eat meat on Good Friday, something both my sis and myself continue to do to this day, 35 years after her passing. Not for our beliefs, but out of respect for hers)

But could you live the life as a sinner of the highest grade, and then repent and ask for forgiveness at the end of your mortal coil. God would then forgive, and even someone as evil as Hitler, Bundy or Ferguson would avoid the hot place?

I’m not the judge mate, I’m not fit to be, I don’t know where people are but as a general, repentance will get you into heaven.

“no one comes to the Father but through me”

What that means exactly, I don’t know. What I do know is God is the most just and Hitler isn’t sat in heaven, having a great time.

 

[Ban-jani]

I am indeed free to go, as was I always with or without a promissory note. However I'm sadly out of debate because my own omnipresent one has just said verily unto me that if her boxing day dinner is not ready to serve at the half time mark then I may have to wank away in the wilderness for forty days and nights. Last nights left over chicken is now carved, the petit pois and carrots are bowled up, the Yorkshires are in the oven and the mash pellets are buttered milked and done to perfection. Just needs microwaving and the all important'e Bisto-Best adding at 20.45 and bobs yer uncle.
Happy are those called to this supper : /

Good luck my friend, I wish you all the best with her :-)

 

[mexico1970]

Hitler isn’t sat in heaven, having a great time.

He's probably in the matchday thread right now waiting to pounce.

 

[Two Gun Bob]

P.s I’m intrigued, who’s number 1 poster on Bluemoon?

Riculas of the Moon and I will follow him, follow him wherever he may go, there isn't an ocean too deep, a mountain so high it can keep me away. He made all this come true. Too many people on here just take him for granted eh.

 

[Brightwell’s left peg]

Too much of a generalisation to suggest the non religious are good and those that follow a religion would be morally suspect without a set of “rules” to follow. There is good and bad in all of us and people are good or bad to greater or lesser degrees, irrespective of their beliefs or non beliefs.

You should open your mind to the fact that there are plenty of followers of religion who are also able to think for themselves and to make the right moral choice not because they are told to but because they are following their own inherent goodness

You should open your mind to the fact that those who are religious and able to think for themselves are ‘selectively religious’, picking the bits of scripture they like and ignoring the bits they don’t like. As such, it is their evolutionary human value, not the values supposedly instilled by a god from a particular faith/book that tells them right from wrong. Unless you believe that religious texts tell you to choose which bits of the very same texts you should believe and which you should ignore as clearly nonsense.

 

[Ban-jani]

he isn't real. It isn't real. There's no choice. It's not there.

He was, He is, He will always be.

 

[sniff]

Sadly the Catholic Church has a lot to answer for in respect of covering up child abuse but it’s not as simple as saying that Catholicism condones and encourages it. Paedophiles will put themselves in a position where they have access to potential victims, the church is a great cover.

i speak as someone who spent time in a Catholic care and education system and while spared the worst of what we know happened to vulnerable children experienced enough to know there were individuals who should have been nowhere near children (or the church for that matter) but also met with kindness and compassion. Less to do with the religion they were attached to and more to do with the type of people they were

i went to catholic schools all the way through, as i said in an earlier post. My headmistress was a Nun and the priest on the estate i lived was a great guy and well liked in the community, he liked a drink ha ha

I never felt like anything bad would have ever happened with them. But i also cant deny the fact that the highest levels knew that they had priest's that was openly abusing children for decades. They did nothing, didn't even remove them from a role, just sent them off to another parish out of sight. Id imagine much like the way the guys in father ted ended up on an island because they had all been in trouble.

I dont have a negative spin on religion, but i can see it for what it is, and its a shame so many good people dedicated their lives to something that did everything they stood against