Tricky_Trev
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A good one for Paul Merson who thinks Jack doesn’t dribble any more.
10 | Jack Grealish - 2021/22 Performances
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Comments here are just hilarious ;D
guy plays at same level in every single match since August, but depending on the result - he is either Super Jack or Super Shite..
I didn't see any difference in his game compared to the other ones TBF, those 2 highlights at the end of the match were OK, but if we judge by 90 minutes, it was same Jack..
I'm not saying it's bad or good, but there was nothing new and exceptional...
What he is good at we already know:
1) First-touch really really good..
2) Controls ball well and never looses it
3) Always finds the space (even in the tight / high-press situations) to find a team-mate and passes the ball, without being selfish
4) Dribbles well
Now the "BAD" moments:
1) Defensively he is our weakest player..
2) Not a hard-worker
3) Always tries to hide, never risks with the ball and if that's good for Zinchenko, that's not acceptable from Jack - especially when club payed 100m and we expect something like Mahrez does or Foden or Sterling or Jesus.. Actually his statistics speak itself..
So I don't know.. We have seen how some of our players have improved defensively under Pep and also have come hard-workers.. I remember Mahrez - Cancelo duo in 2019 / 2020 and they were our weakest players as they were loosing the ball constantly and etc. and etc.
And if somehow his confidence is boosted or he will be shadowed by Haaland's arrival in terms of pressure and get less attention, maybe he will risk more and get more assists & goals.
But right now he is definitely not the 100m player and still has a lot of things to improve..
In overall, potential is there and Pep has ability to justify that money in the end.. Like he did with Mahrez, Cancelo, Rodri and the other ones as well..
guy plays at same level in every single match since August, but depending on the result - he is either Super Jack or Super Shite..
I didn't see any difference in his game compared to the other ones TBF, those 2 highlights at the end of the match were OK, but if we judge by 90 minutes, it was same Jack..
I'm not saying it's bad or good, but there was nothing new and exceptional...
What he is good at we already know:
1) First-touch really really good..
2) Controls ball well and never looses it
3) Always finds the space (even in the tight / high-press situations) to find a team-mate and passes the ball, without being selfish
4) Dribbles well
Now the "BAD" moments:
1) Defensively he is our weakest player..
2) Not a hard-worker
3) Always tries to hide, never risks with the ball and if that's good for Zinchenko, that's not acceptable from Jack - especially when club payed 100m and we expect something like Mahrez does or Foden or Sterling or Jesus.. Actually his statistics speak itself..
So I don't know.. We have seen how some of our players have improved defensively under Pep and also have come hard-workers.. I remember Mahrez - Cancelo duo in 2019 / 2020 and they were our weakest players as they were loosing the ball constantly and etc. and etc.
And if somehow his confidence is boosted or he will be shadowed by Haaland's arrival in terms of pressure and get less attention, maybe he will risk more and get more assists & goals.
But right now he is definitely not the 100m player and still has a lot of things to improve..
In overall, potential is there and Pep has ability to justify that money in the end.. Like he did with Mahrez, Cancelo, Rodri and the other ones as well..
Interesting post mate. I’d suggest the good shows he has all the ingredients to be great for us
I think the first 2 negative points can be coached & the 3rd maybe lack of confidence in a new team?
He’s definitely got something about him
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Perfectly put
This gives me hope because I don't think any of those things are unfixable.
He has the attributes to get better defensively - the burst of pace, the physical strength, and he's a decent tackler. He sometimes seems uncertain or hesitant, which might be partly down to not being completely sure of what's expected of him (also it might be what he's being asked to do - someone posted a link a few pages back to an analysis that talked about the effectiveness of using him in a half-press at false 9).
And I'm not sure "not a hard worker" is quite accurate, although I see where you're coming from. He sometimes seems a little on his heels, whether he's not anticipating what happens or he's complacently assuming his teammates will handle whatever situation - either of these can be corrected with time and coaching. But I do think he puts in a decent shift, it's just that - although obviously he is fit, and has potential to get a bit fitter - he lacks the engine of someone like Bernardo. He's also carrying around a lot more bulk than Bernardo, and has a tendency towards stress injuries, so I don't think it's feasible to use him in the same way. But as he feels more certain of exactly what's expected of him, I think he'll get better in this regard too (although I don't see him losing the casual, languid appearance of his play, however hard he's working).
As for number 3...he'll take more risks as he becomes more confident, and I don't see him staying meek and excessively deferring to our other players for much longer. He'll have been really conscious of not sauntering into the dressing room as if he's a superstar and upsetting the dynamics, and he obviously has a load of admiration for his teammates. But the more he plays with them the more he'll start to see himself as one of them and be wanting to prove to them and us that he belongs with them.
dave_blue12
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Clearly Jack is fantastic (amongst the very best) at some things and not so good at others. City fans unhappy at his performances need to stfu.
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bluethrunthru
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The opposition fans and the gutter media who snipe at Jack will be the one's praying he doesn't get injured at the start of next season as he will be an integral part of the England set up - every day he works with Pep will result in an improvement in Jacks game
shevtheblue
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Yeah but it was the same with some of the other guys, they looked decent to begin with but the thing that gets them is the demands. Pep doesn't want individual performances where you just look good, he needs it as part of a collecting and that can take adjusting to. Grealish isn't used to constant pressing, he's not used to having others available that can do the what he can do in a team. It's starting to click a bit, but we can't expect the consistency yet IMO. The £100m is the thing that's weighing him down in every else's mind.
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Yep I think that that is where people tend to ignore. His low socks make him looking a bit more slender on the screen than he really is. In fact he is very bulky and his body shape is more closed to KDB/Walker. It gives him advantage when protecting ball in the dangerous area but it reduces his covering distance. Running is very easy to "see" on the screen but duels are less noticeable - but every team needs it. A good team needs players in the both types.
The fee is part of the pressure it has always been the same.
I remember paying 1.5 M for Steve Daley, who was when we signed him a very decent player ( probably in the 500k bracket) but never a 1.5 M player. Sadly the fee got to him and he tried to play like a 1.5 M player when he simply could not.
If the fee does get to Grealish, not that I think it will, we are in trouble.
FromPollockToSilva
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That's why the kindest thing the club can do for Jack is to spend shitloads on players this summer to take the pressure off him
It's the only humane choice, if you think about it
andyhinch
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If we get Fdj not sure where he fits in
Just splash the cash regardless, already the abuse is starting re Haaland, music to my ears.....
Huh ? Why would that be the case ? Grealish has not been playing as a #8 this season. Plus if he does in the future… we’ll probs see FDJ battle it out as a #6 with Rodri too.
However there will be one less position available in the team when Haaland and Alvarez arrive as strikers…
andyhinch
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Just airing a thought, it’s what this place is about, so where do you see him ?
I think we'll move towards a 4231. The usual options in defence, Haaland or Alvarez up top, a central midfield pairing of Rodri and FDJ (with cover from Gundogan, and Bernardo can drop back there if need be too).
Then we have a left wing of Foden, Grealish or Sterling (if he stays), a right wing of Mahrez, Foden, Jesus or Sterling (if either of the latter two stay) and a CAM of pretty much any of our attacking players (ideally KDB when possible), including Grealish.
The amount of games we play, we need at least 2 options in each position. Jack will get game time on the left or as a more traditional 10, as well as perhaps occasionally up front if we revert to a false 9 (although I don't think there's much appetite for that).
Alternatively we keep our 4123 and FDJ competes with Rodri to be the 1, with the option of playing further forward, which might impact Grealish's potential transition to an 8 but as he hasn't really played there this year and the whole idea of him in that position is because of some vague rumours plus fans thinking he'd be good there, that might not actually be much impact on him at all.
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Fair enough, in our current system I would like to see Grealish as a #8. If we’re going to keep him as an inverted left winger I would like us to get a new LB in aswell if we can. Along with an actual striker I think we’ll see a completely different Grealish to one we’ve seen this year.
@Lauz9888 for me Jack is perfect for the #10 position if we’re going 4-2-3-1. Whether pep goes with that formation though I’m not so sure…
shevtheblue
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I genuinely don't think it is as much to do with the fee, than an adjustment period for not only him but the players around him. He's got completely different attributes to the other players we have or have had, he does that thing that Pep talks about where he slows the pace down and that's useful but it can be a hinderance if the rest of the team aren't on the same page. I'm sure it will work out, maybe he will move to the 8 where that trait can be fully utilised.
shevtheblue
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Thinking about this again, it's what Spanish Dave used to do and something that Pep used to go on about a lot when people compared Foden to Dave. And if you think back, Dave himself made that transition from out wide into the 8 and adjusted his game. He was obviously a lot further in his development because he'd worked alongside amazing players for Spain and at City, i do think that's what Pep wants for Grealish.
David Silva may have been further along in his development, despite being a year or so younger when he joined us, than Grealish, but still it wasn't until his 6th season that he was playing more often centrally than out wide.
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