10 | Jack Grealish - 2022/23 Performances

[carlosthejackal]

Then if that's the case he is simply not the player for us.

I just think we are seeing the real Jack Grealish, just a hugely over hyped English player, as someone just said Alvarez in one 20 min cameo showed more than Grealish did most of last season.

You could well be correct , one thing I know for certain is that Foden is light years in front of him .

 

[PragueBlue]

I do agree that he's wasted out wide but where to play him. He's no box to box Gerard type not that we need one or play like that.
Alongside and further forward than de Bruyne? Would leave Rodri exposed.
Unfortunately playing him is creating more questions then answers.
Throw in the fact that we are now playing with a different sort of striker and this could be a transitional season.

Minimum disruption would be to play

Foden Haaland Mahrez
Gundo KDB

I'd prefer to see a front 3 of:

Grealish Haaland Foden

I think this would work very well with a left footed LB and either Walker or Cancelo at RB.

 

[Keeper!]

You could well be correct , one thing I know for certain is that Foden is light years in front of him .

Many on our team are including Cole Palmer, a far more naturally talented player for me and more importantly a genuine goal threat in every game he plays.

 

[Damocles]

I was surprised to hear others thought he had a terrible game yesterday. Personally I thought he did pretty well. He was a thorn in their side and an attacking threat.

He's still within himself a bit but that's becoming less of a problem as the games go by

 

[Keeper!]

I'd prefer to see a front 3 of:

Grealish Haaland Foden

I think this would work very well with a left footed LB and either Walker or Cancelo at RB.

Grealish has to go in the center of the park for me, I could see him becoming a very good player in there.

He is never a top class wide player in a million years.

 

[Keeper!]

You could well be correct , one thing I know for certain is that Foden is light years in front of him .

Foden is light years ahead of most players, if he keeps his head, he could become very special.

 

[jimmygrimblesboots]

Grealish taking a bit of criticism but i thought he contributed more than Mahrez in the game , at least Jack was looking for the ball ,Mahrez has a tendency to disappear when the going gets tough. Very hard to make a judgement of either player in the first competitve game of the season , but hopefully Jack keeps screaming for the ball and plays with the positivity he showed at times against the Dippers

 

[PhdWave]

His role in the team (as many have already mentioned) is not at all clear..Like he is never going to be a player who is regularly/reliably beat his man in the wing (he has no pace for that).

He is also not a De bruyne type mid who can pick passes, not like Gundo/bernardo who can reliably bring out the ball from back. They are also very good at not losing the ball when they are pressed. Grealish just gets fouled in those situations.

The only role I can see for him is to replicate the 2018/19 wing bernardo - who without lot of pace made up in lot of other things...

 

[Keeper!]

Grealish taking a bit of criticism but i thought he contributed more than Mahrez in the game , at least Jack was looking for the ball ,Mahrez has a tendency to disappear when the going gets tough. Very hard to make a judgement of either player in the first competitve game of the season , but hopefully Jack keeps screaming for the ball and plays with the positivity he showed at times against the Dippers

Exactly, as long as he is always looking and wanting the ball all will be good, last season he went MIA too often in games.

 

[robbieh]

Grealish taking a bit of criticism but i thought he contributed more than Mahrez in the game , at least Jack was looking for the ball ,Mahrez has a tendency to disappear when the going gets tough. Very hard to make a judgement of either player in the first competitve game of the season , but hopefully Jack keeps screaming for the ball and plays with the positivity he showed at times against the Dippers

Except Mahrez got into at least 5 goalscoring positions. If he'd his shooting boots on we may well have won the game. Both are luxury players but Mahrez has way more end product.

 

[nickamon]

Why blame Mahrez for Grealishs performance, when Mahrez has a poor game, which is less often than Grealish, he can still pull something out (often scoring) other than retaining possession or falling over, Grealish contributing anything else is rarer than a Bluemoon.

Like the beautiful assist he laid off that Kevin should have buried and I don’t think Mahrez had a particularly good game.

 

[Txiki Txiki Bang Bang]

I'd prefer to see a front 3 of:

Grealish Haaland Foden

I think this would work very well with a left footed LB and either Walker or Cancelo at RB.

Based on what? Going by the past year, I would say Grealish is behind Alvarez and Palmer.

I would prefer a front 3 of

Foden---Haaland---Alvarez/Palmer. I am sure most posters here would agree with that.

 

[waspish]

His job should be to get assists! he should be looking at 15 plus assists and at least 5/10 goals

 

[g180aj]

Really think he needs to be playing in the middle as an 8 to see the best of him. Doesn’t seem particularly well suited to the wide left role, especially when paired with another right footer in Cancelo at left-back. Makes the team seem a bit unbalanced.

That could be different with an actual left back to be fair

 

[Lauz9888]

He got a lot of praise in the pre-season friendlies and seemed to look like one of our sharpest and most dynamic attacking players. And he's getting criticism for yesterday for not looking like that.

So, what's different?

I only saw highlights of the Club America match, and I watched Bayern but was admittedly half asleep for most of it. So can someone who's watched all three games closer enlighten me?

What was different, and why?

Was there something different in the way we deployed him? Was he expected to perform a slightly different role in the Community Shield vs the friendlies?

Or was he surrounded by different personnel playing in a different way?

Is it just that the opposition was better yesterday?

Or is it as simple as he just wasn't as good as he'd been in the friendlies?

Or is it the nature of his playing style that he gets praised when we win and criticised when we lose, even if he's doing broadly the same things?

 

[radcliffe1309]

Maybe he was far too overrated at Villa?

He looked very good in a very average team.

He is clearly talented but I think many over value what he will bring to us even if he hits peak form.

This to a tee

 

[Txiki Txiki Bang Bang]

He got a lot of praise in the pre-season friendlies and seemed to look like one of our sharpest and most dynamic attacking players. And he's getting criticism for yesterday for not looking like that.

So, what's different?

I only saw highlights of the Club America match, and I watched Bayern but was admittedly half asleep for most of it. So can someone who's watched all three games closer enlighten me?

What was different, and why?

Was there something different in the way we deployed him? Was he expected to perform a slightly different role in the Community Shield vs the friendlies?

Or was he surrounded by different personnel playing in a different way?

Is it just that the opposition was better yesterday?

Or is it as simple as he just wasn't as good as he'd been in the friendlies?

Or is it the nature of his playing style that he gets praised when we win and criticised when we lose, even if he's doing broadly the same things?

People saw what they wanted to see or rather they believed what they convinced themselves to believe.

 

[nellyonthewing]

So you spend £100m on a flair player but then want to muzzle his "natural strengths"? That makes absolutely no sense. And if that's what City did do, with the understanding that's what Pep intended, it was a really stupid move.

I'm going to try and have some faith for a bit longer that City did know what they were doing buying Grealish and that Pep has a plan for him that will see him able to utilise his strengths and justify the price City paid for him. I'm sure no one wants that more than Jack himself. Presumably they know at least part of the problem is the mismatch with Cancelo, which is why they've been trying to buy a LB to overlap and also do a decent job defensively, which will free Jack up to do his job, rather than having Cancelo in his space and also have Jack spending half his time on the pitch doing defensive work covering for Cancelo. (Surely I wasn't the only one to notice Jack was the one winning a ground duel with Salah yesterday in the LB's area of the pitch?)

Apart from their 1st goal when both Cancelo and Grealish lazily stood off Liverpool players.

 

[Ric]

That could be different with an actual left back to be fair

True. Hopefully Cucurella will come in and add a different dimension to the team.

 

[simon23]

"Grealish needs to focus on his game instead of getting involved in w8nning free kicks and trying yo wind up opposition players and fans "

Is that not what his games was always about?

Winning cheap free kick is simply not good enough, stay on your feet and make the opponent commit and take advantage.

I remember the time when the Birmingham fan came on the pitch and thumped him, he was pissed and took it out on the opposition and scored a wonder goal, that's the Grealish I want to see, the one that was getting into the faces of the rags last season.

Thats the exact problem

We dont need that in our team.....plus he aint good enough to justify it

Tevez use to do it to an extent but he was world class and could get away with it

Barton on the other had was a compete dick head and wasnt good enough to get away with it

I cant think of many players we have had over the last decade in our team that antagonises other players and fans like Grealish does and its detrimental to the team

There is a way of getting in teams faces and being aggressive without antagonising......

Grealish on yesterdays performance along with last year needs to improve......the start of this season for him is huge. Will he cement his place in the team or will he struggle......Im not sure he has the correct attitude at the moment...I konw he is supposedly a really nice guy etc and I dont doubt that but look at the professionalism of players like ruban Dias for instance, David Silva, Kompany and many more in the past...can he be that...I dont think he can (in terms of professionalism)