10 | Jack Grealish - 2024/25

[Brewster's millions]

Pep has a squad with lots of fatigue and injuries so he’s going to be pissed off if a player who hasn’t been available for us, makes themselves available for their national side.

But Jack, having missed the Euro’s, is going to want to be a part of England squads and probably, innocently, thought it would be a good way of finding some fitness. Pep would rather he’s rested up and then fully fit for us rather than breaking down again, and I’d side with him on that. Jack’s shown his commitment to City by flying up to Newcastle to play straight after the birth of his first child.

I don’t think it’s anything more than him wanting to play for his country and feeling it was a good decision. Pep’s had his say, Jack’s reversed his decision. We move on.

Far too sensible a post for this thread.

Grealish is the new whipping boy; 121 pages and counting.

 

[kaz7]

Jan in the rumours, he wants out and pep wants him gone but whether you believe it or not? up to you. all rumours

Pep wants him gone ? lol

 

[Tugay One Cup]

What do you mean minimal information?

We are watching a press conference where the manger of our club is asked about that situation, and portrays to us all that he was less than impressed, with their still being enough time for JG to withdraw, but didn't until yesterday.

Now your "guess" is trying to say that you fully supported the player which is kind of undermining the person that matters the most in all this pantomime, so with him eventually withdrawing, even though he turned up at the camp, possibly and probably against his managers wish, so a line could now be drawn under it....then again who knows, maybe we do all have to keep guessing as what the future brings.

But and this is the money shot now, he chose his country over his wage paying club, and that cannot be denied whatever way you look at it, unless of course nobody wants to see it like that, well I do and did, not the smartest move he will ever make, but he's full of them ideologies in his mind, got form for being a tit.

I want the best for our team, as any fan would

Yes, minimal information. Mentioning the same info twice doesn't make it count as double.

You're welcome to interpret the situation as you want. We've all got to keep ourselves entertained throughout the international break.

The bottom line is that we probably won't know for sure for at least a few weeks. But I'd imagine Pep, as annoyed as he might have been, won't take it all as personally as you seem to.

 

[meeesh]

Guessing and imagining seems to be the best you can offer, and as for me taking it personally, grow up ffs

 

[RegisteredToSeePhotos]

Do we have any "Jack fan boys" on here ? Can't say that I've seen a poster, on here, who's joined up just because he signed for us.

@JTFactsPlz

 

[RayCTID]

In pre-season looked like he could get back in to contention although as the season has currently unfolded not in great form (although partially down to injuries.) Hopefully after this International break he can at least help out with the injuries, fitness and perhaps hunger issues with the squad.

 

[heslops barnet]

Was hoping for a refreshed Jack this season but injuries seemed to have put that on hold…….needs to get fit and produce otherwise I reckon it’ll be goodbye at the end of the season

 

[Invisible Man's Bandage]

Was hoping for a refreshed Jack this season but injuries seemed to have put that on hold…….needs to get fit and produce otherwise I reckon it’ll be goodbye at the end of the season

With two years left on his contract in the summer there may be a decision to be made. The club could offer him an extension but this is highly unlikely I'd suggest. That leaves the other option of looking to sell rather than take the risk of him being down to his final year in 2026.

 

[domalino]

Pep said he was injured. pep said grealish wanted to go on international duty despite being injured. Grealish pulls out.

All those things are 100% facts

Correct. What’s not a fact is you saying Grealish pulled out because Pep was angry at him or that it was a bad judgement call and whatever else your imagination is cooking up.


I’m not saying no one can speculate, I’m saying keep facts and wild speculation separate and don’t mix them up. I made it clear I was speculating, I didn’t just pass off my wild theories as facts and then repeatedly refer to them as FACTS.

 

[Barcon]

@JTFactsPlz

Fangirl.

 

[VOOMER]

He's injured because he has been kicked from pillar to post.
He isn't a winger.
He never asked us to pay £100 million for him.
We know the media has an agenda why do people buy into it.

 

[bluemoon32]

Not a Grealish fanboy by any means but some of the posts in this thread are fucking mental

 

[Fordyboy46]

Wouldn't be the slightest bit bothered if he was sold in the summer, done absolutely nothing to warrant that huge fee which I understand wasn't his fault but his numbers just aren't good enough. Doesn't score enough and doesn't assist enough

 

[AshtonBlueMooner]

Lad helped us to a treble. 3 Premier leagues in the bag. UEFA Super Cup. Club World Cup.
Played his part in all of those.
Worth £100 million? Never
Is it his fault? No
Will shirt sales, endorsements and sponsorship prove to be a sound business decision? Absolutely
I’ll continue to get behind the lad, he’s a great pro, gets who we are, is a great human being and he’s pulling our shirt on.
CTID

 

[jamesha]

I like Jack but he really is not contributing enough to the club in terms of leadership. Maybe he is still a bit intimidated by the likes of KdB but he needs to assume a more vocal role which he seemed to do in his Villa days.
He has sensibly withdrawn from the England squad and can hopefully use this time to get fit and be in contention for our next set of games. If he can play well in those it will go a long way to getting the team back on track.

 

[Dialog]

Lad helped us to a treble.

0 goals and 0 assists in the UCL+SUPER CUP+FA CUP+CLUB WORLD CUP—yet most of his defenders will play the "highest chances created by an English player" card. Honestly, most of those so-called “chances” were just safe passes back or sideways into midfield, leading to nothing. Check the chart; extremely few forward passes among them.

He had a good game against Bayern and some teams.

And as for “helped us to a treble,” well, which player didn’t contribute? It’s not exactly a unique achievement when everyone played their part.

If he was such a standout player like many of you want to pretend, why was he not even nominated for the Ballon d'Or. 7 of our players made the list, he was nowhere to be found on the list. Matter of fact, Phil, Akanji, Ake and Ederson along with the other 7, were more instrumental than him in our treble run. But I do not hear all of you raving about the rest except him.

3 Premier leagues in the bag. UEFA Super Cup. Club World Cup.

We’ve been winning league titles before, during, and we’ll continue to win them long after Grealish.
He was poor in the EUFA SUPER CUP and World Cup, which is his standard level anyway.

FA CUP games, he was ANONYMOUS!

Exactly—it was just three months of decent form in an entire treble-winning season. For all the hype, you’d expect consistency throughout, not just a short stretch. When you look at the whole season, those three months don’t exactly justify the investment or the praise he’s getting now.

Played his part in all of those.

Spot on! If we're crediting "helping with the treble," then every player who suited up contributed in some way, from starters to squad players like Gómez and even the academy players who stepped in here and there. It’s a team achievement, and every player had a role, big or small. Saying someone "helped win the treble" is true, but it doesn't necessarily mean they were instrumental.

Worth £100 million? Never

Exactly! Even £50M would’ve been a stretch for his actual impact and consistency. Given the level he’s shown, that kind of fee would have seemed extremely high, £50M is high too—and we paid way beyond that. It’s hard to justify it based on what he’s brought to the team overall.

Is it his fault? No

Exactly, tough luck indeed. But if that’s the logic, then we could never criticize any player for a high price tag, no matter how underwhelming their performances might be. Price does set expectations, and when a player doesn’t meet them, it’s only natural for fans to question if they were worth the investment.

Will shirt sales, endorsements and sponsorship prove to be a sound business decision? Absolutely

Oh boy, calling the Grealish purchase "a sound business decision" is a stretch, to say the least. I’m not sure what kind of work you’re in or what line of business you’re familiar with, but if your analysis somehow concludes that buying Grealish made financial sense, then I genuinely do not know what to say, on the bright side, you not alone, CITY thought it made financial sense as well, that is why they bought him.

It’s hard to look at that transfer and call it "sound" from a business perspective, especially given the price tag and the output we’ve seen so far. The ROI just doesn’t add up. Transfers like this are sometimes more about hype than substance.

I’ll continue to get behind the lad,

Absolutely, he’ll need all the support he can get, especially from those who still rate him that highly. The pressure is on, and if he’s going to justify that price tag, he’ll need strong backing and probably a good run of form to turn things around.

he’s a great pro, gets who we are,

Lol, I guess a contract extension is on the way then?
Will City be doubling down on their investment, hoping he’ll keep developing and eventually live up to the hype?

Stones has gotten a couple of extensions, no matter how injury prone he is, the club has valued him nonetheless.

If the club sees value in Grealish and believes in his "potential", they’ll likely go ahead with that extension, regardless of his injuries and niggles. Ultimately, the decision comes down to whether they believe he can contribute to the long-term success of the team, and if they’re backing him, they’ll invest in securing him for the future

is a great human being

Lovely lad and all the best to him!

CTID

CTID!

 

[Bill Walker]

0 goals and 0 assists in the UCL+SUPER CUP+FA CUP+CLUB WORLD CUP—yet most of his defenders will play the "highest chances created by an English player" card. Honestly, most of those so-called “chances” were just safe passes back or sideways into midfield, leading to nothing. Check the chart; extremely few forward passes among them.

He had a good game against Bayern and some teams.

And as for “helped us to a treble,” well, which player didn’t contribute? It’s not exactly a unique achievement when everyone played their part.

If he was such a standout player like many of you want to pretend, why was he not even nominated for the Ballon d'Or. 7 of our players made the list, he was nowhere to be found on the list. Matter of fact, Phil, Akanji, Ake and Ederson along with the other 7, were more instrumental than him in our treble run. But I do not hear all of you raving about the rest except him.


We’ve been winning league titles before, during, and we’ll continue to win them long after Grealish.
He was poor in the EUFA SUPER CUP and World Cup, which is his standard level anyway.

FA CUP games, he was ANONYMOUS!

Exactly—it was just three months of decent form in an entire treble-winning season. For all the hype, you’d expect consistency throughout, not just a short stretch. When you look at the whole season, those three months don’t exactly justify the investment or the praise he’s getting now.


Spot on! If we're crediting "helping with the treble," then every player who suited up contributed in some way, from starters to squad players like Gómez and even the academy players who stepped in here and there. It’s a team achievement, and every player had a role, big or small. Saying someone "helped win the treble" is true, but it doesn't necessarily mean they were instrumental.


Exactly! Even £50M would’ve been a stretch for his actual impact and consistency. Given the level he’s shown, that kind of fee would have seemed extremely high, £50M is high too—and we paid way beyond that. It’s hard to justify it based on what he’s brought to the team overall.


Exactly, tough luck indeed. But if that’s the logic, then we could never criticize any player for a high price tag, no matter how underwhelming their performances might be. Price does set expectations, and when a player doesn’t meet them, it’s only natural for fans to question if they were worth the investment.


Oh boy, calling the Grealish purchase "a sound business decision" is a stretch, to say the least. I’m not sure what kind of work you’re in or what line of business you’re familiar with, but if your analysis somehow concludes that buying Grealish made financial sense, then I genuinely do not know what to say, on the bright side, you not alone, CITY thought it made financial sense as well, that is why they bought him.

It’s hard to look at that transfer and call it "sound" from a business perspective, especially given the price tag and the output we’ve seen so far. The ROI just doesn’t add up. Transfers like this are sometimes more about hype than substance.


Absolutely, he’ll need all the support he can get, especially from those who still rate him that highly. The pressure is on, and if he’s going to justify that price tag, he’ll need strong backing and probably a good run of form to turn things around.


Lol, I guess a contract extension is on the way then?
Will City be doubling down on their investment, hoping he’ll keep developing and eventually live up to the hype?

Stones has gotten a couple of extensions, no matter how injury prone he is, the club has valued him nonetheless.

If the club sees value in Grealish and believes in his "potential", they’ll likely go ahead with that extension, regardless of his injuries and niggles. Ultimately, the decision comes down to whether they believe he can contribute to the long-term success of the team, and if they’re backing him, they’ll invest in securing him for the future

Lovely lad and all the best to him!

CTID!

Agree with a lot of that mate.
If we're paying Jack a million a month that's 60 million over 5 years plus the 100 million fee to Villa, I doubt we could flog enough Grealish shirts to make that a sound investment.
(Unless Jack's buying loads).

Still thats not Jack's fault.

Why the fuck doesn't Pep play him in his best position, it's all his fault the bald twat....:-)

 

[Dialog]

Agree with a lot of that mate.

Many will disagree.

If we're paying Jack a million a month that's 60 million over 5 years plus the 100 million fee to Villa, I doubt we could flog enough Grealish shirts to make that a sound investment.
(Unless Jack's buying loads).

Actually its more like £15.6M a year in wages for 6 years, which is £93.6M plus the £100M fee + signing on fee. It exceeds the £200M mark. That is a massive investment!

Still thats not Jack's fault.

That argument could be made for any player, really.

Why the fuck doesn't Pep play him in his best position, it's all his fault the bald twat....:-)

What exactly is his best position? CAM?

For most of his Premier League career not in the CHAMPIONSHIP, he’s been playing mainly as a left winger. We bought him as a LW whilst he was at Villa. Back when he was in the Championship, he did play in midfield, but that was during his younger years, from his teens to around 21. Since then, most of his career has been spent as a winger. He is a winger unless if you want Championship Grealish back, who played mainly as a CAM.

As for why Pep doesn’t play him in the middle, it’s simple—he’s just not a Pep midfielder. If you look at all the midfielders Pep has worked with, Grealish doesn’t quite fit the mold. Pep's midfielders are typically brilliant football minds, capable of scoring, assisting, and possessing exceptional vision. Grealish doesn’t quite offer that same level of creativity, vision, intelligence, read of the game or productivity in the middle.

At this point, Pep might as well give him a shot in the middle—what’s the worst that could happen? With the way things are going, we’re in a position where a bit of experimentation might not hurt. If he can offer something different, it could shake things up, even if it’s a risk.

 

[Bill Walker]

At this point, Pep might as well give him a shot in the middle—what’s the worst that could happen? With the way things are going, we’re in a position where a bit of experimentation might not hurt. If he can offer something different, it could shake things up, even if it’s a risk.

Yes yes and yes.

 

[Keeper!]

Agree with a lot of that mate.
If we're paying Jack a million a month that's 60 million over 5 years plus the 100 million fee to Villa, I doubt we could flog enough Grealish shirts to make that a sound investment.
(Unless Jack's buying loads).

Still thats not Jack's fault.

Why the fuck doesn't Pep play him in his best position, it's all his fault the bald twat....:-)

The Grealish shirt sales is utter nonsense , No1 by a country mile is Haaland , I would say living here in Asia, Haaland sells 1000 shirts to ever sale of Grealish's.

He, Grealish will always be a legend of this club for this image...