#10 | Sergio Agüero - 2020/21 Performances

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She's absolutely nailed it. Can't believe that's come from talksport, actually.

Of course, a City player is in the wrong and people on here are trying to flip it on it's head so that anyone taking issue with it is the real problem. Like clockwork.

"Something something morally outraged, something something this generation is soft, blah blah blah you're the real sexists."

It's inappropriate physical contact with someone; even before you get into the specifics like social distancing and her gender, it was a fucking stupid move and he should be called out on it.

I don't know whatever happened to a bit of balance. You don't have to call him a sexist bastard that should be banned for life nor do you have to blindly defend him.

His actions were out of order and no one should be putting their arm around a woman like that when she's doing her job, a job that she does brilliantly I might add.
 
Laura Woods nails it.


Was fine until she said “if I was at a bar...”. Football isn’t played in a bar. There are no universal rules to physical contact. Context matters. If I was in a bar and someone slide tackled me I would be pissed. But that’s okay on a football pitch. She talks about not comparing different incidents and evaluating things separately but then goes on to a use a completely different example to drive home her point. Same fucking mental gymnastics every time. It’s not okay to touch a woman you don’t know in a bar or literally anyone at work but football isn’t a 9-5 desk job. And if we absolutely must have the same rules for every work environment then ban massage parlours.
 
Is this molehill still growing?
Of course it is, a City player escaped a yellow card for an inquisitive grab on an official's shoulder and people on here are trying to say everyone who doesn't lose their heads over it are in the wrong. They're trying to make out anyone calling out sensationalism when they see it, are in need of "correcting". Why is it some always go down the path of assuming the worst case/intentions on these things? It was the same with the Foden incident.

"Something Something defend players through anything, something something must be ok with patronising/bullying women, something something inappropriate shoulder-contact, blah blah wouldn't do that to a male official... Oh he has has he? Well that's besides my point, blah blah..."

In this case, he certainly wasn't happy but I don't think he was trying to intimidate or patronise personally.

Should he have done it? No, I'm not condoning it but are people twisting what was done? Yes and it's justifiable to take issue with that for balance.

You can condemn an action but what happened to keeping perspective to avoid it going on for too long or going too far? It's like Chinese Whispers(probably not PC anymore but "telephone" would just be confusing), people will forget what actually happened at this rate, before long. There's literally people likening it to violent assault and sexual assault the longer this story is dragged out and people don't think there's justification to say too many people are going way over the top? Deary me.
 
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That's the beginning and end of it. The rest is white noise.
I've been saying he should have got a yellow card is that not enough? My point is, he shouldn't have done it but lets be clear on what "it" is and not make it something it isn't. The following players all did wrong to some extent but Bernardo is not a racist, Foden is not a **** and Aguero is not a <insert what they finally agree his intent was here>. Just because you're not accepting a false narrative, it doesn't mean you're saying they've done nothing wrong.

I get it, intent is hard to prove and we don't want grey areas but the context was easy to see with the video evidence. Context is a concept that some people don't seem to grasp the importance of. He was pissed off at a decision and wanted to be heard, end of. Why anyone is looking at it through any other lens than that, I don't know.

What are they talking about bars for? Are they seriously saying Aguero should be made an example of for other guys touching women up at bars or even in the workplace? Sorry no, that is too much of a leap to put it mildly. There is no need to put it in a sexual context whatsoever, arm round the shoulder, hugging, this was not.

As for aggression, we could see with our eyes, although he was pissed off initially and he did cross the line with the hand on the shoulder to pull her back. The direct aggression shown to her was minimal, if at all. I say it wasn't there in that contact, it looked like a "wait" reaction, may have even said sorry in that moment for all we know. So if there was a red mist moment, there was also a moment where he caught himself loosing it and cooled his boots, right before he spoke, just before walking away from it. Look at his face when he says whatever he says, that's not said with anger/aggression, whatever it was.
 
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I've been saying he should have got a yellow card is that not enough? My point is, he shouldn't have done it but lets be clear on what "it" is and not make it something it isn't. The following players all did wrong to some extent but Bernardo is not a racist, Foden is not a **** and Aguero is not a <insert what they finally agree his intent was here>. Just because you're not accepting a false narrative, it doesn't mean you're saying they've done nothing wrong.

I get it, intent is hard to prove and we don't want grey areas but the context was easy to see with the video evidence. Context is a concept that some people don't seem to grasp the importance of. He was pissed off at a decision and wanted to be heard, end of. Why anyone is looking at it through any other lens than that, I don't know.

What are they talking about bars for? Are they seriously saying Aguero should be made an example of for other guys touching women up at bars or even in the workplace? Sorry no, that is too much of a leap to put it mildly. There is no need to put it in a sexual context whatsoever, arm round the shoulder, hugging, this was not.

As for aggression, we could see with our eyes, although he was pissed off initially and he did cross the line with the hand on the shoulder to pull her back. The direct aggression shown to her was minimal if at all. I say it wasn't there in that contact, it looked like a "wait" reaction, may have even said sorry in that moment for all we know. You still can't do it but it's a yellow card.

I'm pretty sure we're in agreement, for the most part. All I'll say is that people should keep in mind where the most extreme reactions are coming from because I don't see any of that on here.

The people I mostly take issue with are those who want an over the top punishment and those who act like he did nothing wrong. I'm glad you're in neither camp.
 
I'm pretty sure we're in agreement, for the most part. All I'll say is that people should keep in mind where the most extreme reactions are coming from because I don't see any of that on here.

The people I mostly take issue with are those who want an over the top punishment and those who act like he did nothing wrong. I'm glad you're in neither camp.
Fair enough, it's been bothering me that this could become another Bernardo type hounding. I might have been reading too far into to some post that could lend way to certain narratives. I guess we can't control it either way, people will do what they do. What a shit way to end his City career that would be though, last 12 months of his current contract and all.
 
I hope it‘s not a Suarez case where a world class striker loses 20-30% quality within 3-4 months.
 
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