11 | Jeremy Doku - 2024/25

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Have watched the game back with an eye on Jeremy. A lot of good some not so good.
What I have noticed is all his cock ups come when he goes inside especially as the game goes on and they start reading him but is best work is the odd time he goes outside.
Imo he needs a change of plan and go outside about 70:30 and develop a little dink left footed Cross. Shouldn't be that hard.Would transform him.
Would be a shame to give up on such a talent but needs to work on this can't have more of the same.

He should sometimes when he comes back on his right foot cross it with height to the back post never seen him do that! Nunes did it first time he played there and found Haaland! Don't know what we practice in training or they chat about but it ain't crossing the ball
 
At the same point in his career Mo Salah was sent to Fiorentina on loan having delivered worse numbers than Doku for City this season. Mahrez was in Ligue 2 with Le Havre.

A bit of patience and respect wouldn't hurt.

Rodri was 25 when our fans were doubting him...

3 years later he went 74 club games without a defeat (more than any player in the history of football), won the Euros with Spain and then Ballon d'Or.
 
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At the same point in his career Mo Salah was sent to Fiorentina on loan having delivered worse numbers than Doku for City this season. Mahrez was in Ligue 2 with Le Havre.

A bit of patience and respect wouldn't hurt.

If he comes good I will say he is good, it's his thread for discussing his performances. If I can say Haaland has been poor this year with his numbers then I can say it about Doku.

We ain't Fiorentina or Le Havre, we can't give players 3 season to do the basics.
 
He's a professional footballer.

He's been playing and training football all his life and throughout his professional footballing career.

It isn't hard to learn how to pass a ball and find another player inside the box when you have beaten a defender.

If Doku had an end product he would be a great winger. As it is, he's fast, skilful, but has no or very little end product, bar the odd good goal.
Moving at speed into a a busy penalty box its an exceptionally difficult skill which is one big reason why DeBruyne was such a special player he really had that skill more than anyone else.
It is definitely a skill that can be developed and is likely to grow as you learn the movement s of your fellow attacking players and the plays of defenders.
As it is he produced some critical assists for us this season , the one against VIlla changed the mood of the run in.
No one can know how he will develop but suggesting at his age that he can't is nonsense. He could become an outstanding winger or he may remain a good but mercurial one who still worries defenders.
 
Moving at speed into a a busy penalty box its an exceptionally difficult skill which is one big reason why DeBruyne was such a special player he really had that skill more than anyone else.
It is definitely a skill that can be developed and is likely to grow as you learn the movement s of your fellow attacking players and the plays of defenders.
As it is he produced some critical assists for us this season , the one against VIlla changed the mood of the run in.
No one can know how he will develop but suggesting at his age that he can't is nonsense. He could become an outstanding winger or he may remain a good but mercurial one who still worries defenders.


I remember reading that when Adama Traore was at Boro, they brought in Darren Campbell, the sprinter, to do acceleration coaching with players. He said Traore was essentially too fast and he should actually slow down to improve his end product. Clearly he never did do that as he never improved but still..

KDB is a special talent that can deliver a ball while running at pace, but it's also fair to say he wasn't going as fast as these either.

Point is, maybe he needs to use that acceleration to beat a man, but know how to slow it down slightly when he's about to pull the trigger. I think his timing is poor, Savinho too.
 
Again, he made the penalty with his drive and pass to Gundogan in the second half. Right before that Fulham had an attack from his side which Ederson saved, and as it often happens Doku was nowhere near the defense. But the moment Ederson picked up the ball I thought ok get it to Doku because there is space now on the counter. And he delivered right then.

Doku's contributions are not always visible in the boxscore. But he creates the most out of any attacking player in each game he plays. The biggest chances City have are either directly or indirectly created by him whenever he plays. You can't fault Doku for not being able to pick out the perfect pass when the box is crowded.

Just because he looks like Ronaldinho when he has the ball doesn't mean he has the same vision or passing skill. When the opposition defends in numbers its often about just getting that little space to try to get the ball inside; because its so difficult to find even that space, its even harder to make the perfect pass which is needed in those circumstances.

He suffers from the same problem Haaland does, which is not playing a vertical game as a team. Pep ball being wrong for the two most dangerous attackers on this team is wild.
 
The thing is (excepting Yamal who seems to be a total anomaly) were any of salah, dembele or Raphinha better at 22? And do you give up that potential?
I’m afraid of giving up on players especially after Palmer. After he never scored a PL goal for us then went to score a bunch with Chelsea. I’m going to be patient but we deffo can’t rely on them rn
 
Again, he made the penalty with his drive and pass to Gundogan in the second half. Right before that Fulham had an attack from his side which Ederson saved, and as it often happens Doku was nowhere near the defense. But the moment Ederson picked up the ball I thought ok get it to Doku because there is space now on the counter. And he delivered right then.

Doku's contributions are not always visible in the boxscore. But he creates the most out of any attacking player in each game he plays. The biggest chances City have are either directly or indirectly created by him whenever he plays. You can't fault Doku for not being able to pick out the perfect pass when the box is crowded.

Just because he looks like Ronaldinho when he has the ball doesn't mean he has the same vision or passing skill. When the opposition defends in numbers its often about just getting that little space to try to get the ball inside; because its so difficult to find even that space, its even harder to make the perfect pass which is needed in those circumstances.

He suffers from the same problem Haaland does, which is not playing a vertical game as a team. Pep ball being wrong for the two most dangerous attackers on this team is wild.
He's not gonna shag you
 
Looks stronger at holding off close markers at least. Rest of his game looks exactly the same as the day he arrived tbh, staying fit more though.
 
The thing is (excepting Yamal who seems to be a total anomaly) were any of salah, dembele or Raphinha better at 22? And do you give up that potential?
Dembele was definitely better but yeah Doku needs more chances. Still creates the most and can only get better when getting more support + a faster game plan. If he played for Bilbao, Liverpool or whoever counter attacks we would cry for him to join us
 
If he comes good I will say he is good, it's his thread for discussing his performances. If I can say Haaland has been poor this year with his numbers then I can say it about Doku.

We ain't Fiorentina or Le Havre, we can't give players 3 season to do the basics.

What you said that I was responding to wasn't that though.

I don't disagree that he can be frustrating to watch sometimes but suggesting he'll never learn end product and rewriting history that he only hit the ball into players legs in that game isn't fair.
 
What you said that I was responding to wasn't that though.

I don't disagree that he can be frustrating to watch sometimes but suggesting he'll never learn end product and rewriting history that he only hit the ball into players legs in that game isn't fair.

It doesn't take 100 games after playing football for 20 yrs to learn an end product.

But to be positive I enjoyed how he dribbled past a player and kicked it against a defenders legs several times.

If he comes good I will say he is good, it's his thread for discussing his performances. If I can say Haaland has been poor this year with his numbers then I can say it about Doku.

We ain't Fiorentina or Le Havre, we can't give players 3 season to do the basics.

Never said he couldn't learn to be better at end product, I even said if he plays good i will say so, my only points were we can't give players seasons and you can't compare other players at other clubs.
 
Adama Traore V2. Good player off the bench and that’s about it.
 
Never said he couldn't learn to be better at end product, I even said if he plays good i will say so, my only points were we can't give players seasons and you can't compare other players at other clubs.

You said "it doesn't take 100 games after playing football for 20 years to learn an end product". You're writing him off.

I can certainly compare players at other clubs and will continue to.

Also you said he just kicked the ball into players legs. Who found Gundogan in the box for the penalty?
 
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