18 | Stefan Ortega - 2024/25

[skillman]

Tricky one for Pep. Ortega for his shot stopping or Ederson for his passing? Which of the two is more competent in both areas?

Ortega is comfortable with the ball but you can just tell is causes unrest.

Ederson’s shot stopping has become fantastic…but Pep made a point recently about the first attacking usually resulting in a goal.

I used to be of the thinking that was Ederson’s fault but I’ve come to realise that when the opposition get a chance, it’s usually a brilliant one which can’t be/shouldn’t be missed rather than the keeper being at fault.

I presume Ederson’s fuck ups on Tuesday made a big different in Pep’s mind and nothing today from Ortega suggests that he should be dropped again on Wednesday.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

Needs to be number one for a bit IMO.

I love Ederson but he’d have conceded a lot more today.

 

[johnny crossan]

Tricky one for Pep. Ortega for his shot stopping or Ederson for his passing? Which of the two is more competent in both areas?

Ortega is comfortable with the ball but you can just tell is causes unrest.

Ederson’s shot stopping has become fantastic…but Pep made a point recently about the first attacking usually resulting in a goal.

I used to be of the thinking that was Ederson’s fault but I’ve come to realise that when the opposition get a chance, it’s usually a brilliant one which can’t be/shouldn’t be missed rather than the keeper being at fault.

I presume Ederson’s fuck ups on Tuesday made a big different in Pep’s mind and nothing today from Ortega suggests that he should be dropped again on Wednesday.

Could he have avoided giving away the pen?

 

[ninjamonkey]

Amazing how different the opinions are purely based on the name on the back of the shirt.

Ortega did fine, saved the efforts that were straight at him and you'd expect a keeper to make, only notable save was one that was offside anyway. distribution was just about on the acceptable end but not good by any means. Should be tipping away the cross for the first goal imo, that's reachable, if thats ederson, there's dozens of comments about him not getting there.

Then the penalty, he's done exactly what ederson did against feyenoord, had no choice but to come for something he wasn't favourite for, got absolutely nowhere near it, cost us a goal and the games done when we finally started to look a threat. Ederson got slaughtered for the exact same thing midweek. It's not a keeper issue, it's a structure problem that leaves the keepers up shits creek.

 

[Barcon]

Amazing how different the opinions are purely based on the name on the back of the shirt.

Ortega did fine, saved the efforts that were straight at him and you'd expect a keeper to make, only notable save was one that was offside anyway. distribution was just about on the acceptable end but not good by any means. Should be tipping away the cross for the first goal imo, that's reachable, if thats ederson, there's dozens of comments about him not getting there.

Then the penalty, he's done exactly what ederson did against feyenoord, had no choice but to come for something he wasn't favourite for, got absolutely nowhere near it, cost us a goal and the games done when we finally started to look a threat. Ederson got slaughtered for the exact same thing midweek. It's not a keeper issue, it's a structure problem that leaves the keepers up shits creek.

Spot on mate. Some of the posts on here are completely bizarre.
People calling for Ederson to be dropped are voting Ortega man of the match.

 

[bhayes]

It seemed to me like he should have dealt better with the first goal, he should have got his hand to it and dealt with it. I didn't see the rest of the game only the highlights but that was clear to me

 

[Monsters.]

Not a big Ederson fan, but Ortega isn’t the answer.

 

[nellyonthewing]

It seemed to me like he should have dealt better with the first goal, he should have got his hand to it and dealt with it. I didn't see the rest of the game only the highlights but that was clear to me

Maybe he'd be sharper if he played regularly as No1.

 

[bhayes]

Maybe he'd be sharper if he played regularly as No1.

Maybe, regardless he was at fault for the first goal

 

[Cassandra]

Maybe, regardless he was at fault for the first goal

Yes he was partly responsible for the first goal but the cross. could have been stopped before it got to him and I suspect Stones, had he been playing, might have got to the ball before Gakpo. But this is a team game and at the moment the whole team is not playing well consistently. Sure individual players are making mistakes but to blaming individual players doesn’t seem particularly helpful.