wearethesouthstand
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Dante here. A few things will come out in the wash. We've had gofundme campaigns on and off over the last 7 years for 1894. People who donate are usually close to the organisation and not only trust us but are pleased with the results. All of a sudden with this one a group of people - probably desperate for attention themselves and who ask City fans to PAY to listen to their opinion on City - are throwing it out there 8 grand this 8 grand that.
They have been irresponsible and have whipped a section of the support up Into hysterics.
First of all you've got to be thick as pig shit if you hadn't realised 10% of the money we don't even see because gofundme take a fee for allowing the platform. We are not a charity so we have to pay charges. So first of all they need to apologise to City fans for perpetuating the lie about how much is available.
Out of that money there were costs for designing, vectoring, drone hire and some other bits and pieces. The final cost is only known when we have done the display but the actual cost of the banner was a lot less than £8k.
We've just worked in the same way that we always do, put a fundraiser out and plan a display off the back of it. We work with a number of printing firms at home and abroad. Some of them will try and help 1894 by providing favourable rates.
Anyone with half a brain would realise that for such a sensitive display such as this we cannot falsely implicate the club and we are not going to negatively affect businesses who have other production rates set With their trade partners.
Just because someone with a podcast with about 20 listeners needs a story we are not obliged to bow to their demands or timescales especially when they just sit on the sidelines and don't attempt to improve the atmosphere. No they just sit on the sidelines and expect people to pay to listen to their opinion on City ! Amazing !
I've personally got no problem with people saying they weren't happy with the display because everyone will have their own view. We realised that we can't please everyone.
However what can be in no doubt is that we achieved our objective clearly which was to get the maximum amount of coverage for the display - a big task considering no fans in the ground at the moment. Had it gone in the stadium on the night it would have gone round the world. As it was the image and message still went round the world. So job done. Even people who don't like the image can't stop talking about it so it's memorable.
Everyone has had a chance to get involved over the years in terms of the atmosphere and putting pressure on the club over prices etc but no let's just sit on the sidelines and moan about everything. "Oh you don't speak for us" no problem at all we'll just speak for who want us to represent them and we will feed their views directly into the club. But then if you keep your distance from us - don't write an article moaning about how dear it is to go to football when you are doing fuck all campaigning yourself and still wanting City fans to PAY to listen to your opinion. What's wrong with starting at the bottom and working your way up the ladder. Wait outside a dressing room and wait to speak to a manager. Some of these guys just want to go straight in and expect adulation and not do any real hard work.
As for the usual tossers "oh they would never have got it in, they are not polish ultras, you don't have that kind of sway with the club" how the fuck would you know? There's always a line of communication with the club and we wouldn't have gone to the trouble of preparing a display unless we felt it was gong to get in the ground.
They have been irresponsible and have whipped a section of the support up Into hysterics.
First of all you've got to be thick as pig shit if you hadn't realised 10% of the money we don't even see because gofundme take a fee for allowing the platform. We are not a charity so we have to pay charges. So first of all they need to apologise to City fans for perpetuating the lie about how much is available.
Out of that money there were costs for designing, vectoring, drone hire and some other bits and pieces. The final cost is only known when we have done the display but the actual cost of the banner was a lot less than £8k.
We've just worked in the same way that we always do, put a fundraiser out and plan a display off the back of it. We work with a number of printing firms at home and abroad. Some of them will try and help 1894 by providing favourable rates.
Anyone with half a brain would realise that for such a sensitive display such as this we cannot falsely implicate the club and we are not going to negatively affect businesses who have other production rates set With their trade partners.
Just because someone with a podcast with about 20 listeners needs a story we are not obliged to bow to their demands or timescales especially when they just sit on the sidelines and don't attempt to improve the atmosphere. No they just sit on the sidelines and expect people to pay to listen to their opinion on City ! Amazing !
I've personally got no problem with people saying they weren't happy with the display because everyone will have their own view. We realised that we can't please everyone.
However what can be in no doubt is that we achieved our objective clearly which was to get the maximum amount of coverage for the display - a big task considering no fans in the ground at the moment. Had it gone in the stadium on the night it would have gone round the world. As it was the image and message still went round the world. So job done. Even people who don't like the image can't stop talking about it so it's memorable.
Everyone has had a chance to get involved over the years in terms of the atmosphere and putting pressure on the club over prices etc but no let's just sit on the sidelines and moan about everything. "Oh you don't speak for us" no problem at all we'll just speak for who want us to represent them and we will feed their views directly into the club. But then if you keep your distance from us - don't write an article moaning about how dear it is to go to football when you are doing fuck all campaigning yourself and still wanting City fans to PAY to listen to your opinion. What's wrong with starting at the bottom and working your way up the ladder. Wait outside a dressing room and wait to speak to a manager. Some of these guys just want to go straight in and expect adulation and not do any real hard work.
As for the usual tossers "oh they would never have got it in, they are not polish ultras, you don't have that kind of sway with the club" how the fuck would you know? There's always a line of communication with the club and we wouldn't have gone to the trouble of preparing a display unless we felt it was gong to get in the ground.