1894 group safestanding meeting

[dennishasdoneit]

if the club endorse a safe standing area then so be it, i dont think it would greatly improve atmosphere with safe standing

Earlier in the season I went to Bristol Rovers (Conference) with some relatives and they had standing terraces, and trust me, the atmosphere was electric and the place was rammed. We could really do with safe standing.

Sometime last season i went to Harrogate to see Darlington with a darlo mate, standing, the place was rammed and the atmosphere brill, took me right back to why i first started being hooked on football..it took a trip back to grass roots footy to really strengthen my resolve..all seater stadiums are basically crap..give folk a choice, and reduce the prices for standing..£10..why not? seriously why not??
the clubs can afford it, give the younger generation the chance to attend within their budget, not having to sit with parents and behave in that fucking sterile antiseptic atmosphere.ffs

 

[dennishasdoneit]

I'm all for bringing standing back, held the banner against hull and constantly pushing for it.

But I can't help thinking wtf is going on seriously when you look at the pictures of the blue seat rails / safestand units. I mean we are not learning to stand all over again as we have been standing up since 9 months old, they look like lines of zimmer frames welded together. I've stood up at EDS games, rugby, lower league on normal terrace without feeling as though I was going to fall over or start a mass riot.

Ok we know eufa insist to play in their chumps league that you must have some sort of all seat stadium to be highly credited enough to play in their most gracious cup, but how patronising is it to be inprisoned in 10 ton of scaffold to watch a game of football !

Who knows the penny may drop in years to come with those loons who have set this rule.

Great post.

 

[kippaxed54]

Am a Blue, a supporter of 1894 and a pilot return of Safestanding. If anyone involved in this campaign could get in contact directly, I'd be grateful

 

[PragueBlue]

I'm all for safe standing but I don't know that it is really going to make a huge difference to the atmosphere. There isn't that great an atmosphere generated in the areas which allow standing at the moment. It's just the way Premier League football has gone and I can't see the atmosphere of the 'good old days' coming back anytime soon.

 

[cyberblue]

I'm all for safe standing but I don't know that it is really going to make a huge difference to the atmosphere. There isn't that great an atmosphere generated in the areas which allow standing at the moment. It's just the way Premier League football has gone and I can't see the atmosphere of the 'good old days' coming back anytime soon.

Sometimes in fact many times in the "good old days " the atmosphere was crap

 

[Dogtanian]

Turns you into football hooligans, took my boy to the nycfc game today and within 5 mins of being in the standing end he chanted does your boyfriends know you're here at the Bromby fans,was looking to blame my ex for the way she is raising him but i don't hear a peep from him when we are in seated areas.

 

[wythenshaweblue£££]

Persistent standing has been going on years (since we moved to the new stadium and before at Maine Road for the North Stand and AA lower)...have you considered moving to a seated part of the ground at all? Just asking. For example the second tier which isn't that much more expensive in the south stand.

Perhaps ground expansion will sort all these issues out once and for all if the club get a grip of the issue properly.

i like where i sit i have sat there for years, and its only this season that standing has been coming round to my part of the south stand. I should not have to relocate because of the selfishness of others in an all seater stadium. Me moving seats is NOT the answer

The demand is so high for big standing sections that problems like the one you find yourself in are going to happen more and more in the next few years. It's a very British attitude of 'I've sat here for so long, I'm not gonna move for no one!!!'. I think most people would end up being pleasantly surprised after moving to different sections.

At the end of the day, there should be sections in the ground for every type of match going fan. So people like yourself who would prefer somewhere to sit down should be facilitated without the inconvenience of someone standing up all game infront of you, and people who want to stand up all game should be facilitated. Then everyone's happy.

Well said couldn't agree more

 

[Blue Streak]

I'd welcome safe standing I really would although I think it might be quite difficult to implement at the Etihad due to the angle of the terracing/concrete. However we can bang this drum as much as we want. Until we have a huge change in the law it isn't going to happen. And lets not look at it through rose tinted specks. The atmosphere on the old Kippax was often shit.

 

[Dunne's own goal]

I'd welcome safe standing I really would although I think it might be quite difficult to implement at the Etihad due to the angle of the terracing/concrete. However we can bang this drum as much as we want. Until we have a huge change in the law it isn't going to happen. And lets not look at it through rose tinted specks. The atmosphere on the old Kippax was often shit.

why on earth would it be difficult to implement at the Etihad?

 

[Manchester33]

Turns you into football hooligans, took my boy to the nycfc game today and within 5 mins of being in the standing end he chanted does your boyfriends know you're here at the Bromby fans,was looking to blame my ex for the way she is raising him but i don't hear a peep from him when we are in seated areas.

Ridiculous comment. In fact I'd say it does the opposite.

 

[Carver]

I'd welcome safe standing I really would although I think it might be quite difficult to implement at the Etihad due to the angle of the terracing/concrete. However we can bang this drum as much as we want. Until we have a huge change in the law it isn't going to happen. And lets not look at it through rose tinted specks. The atmosphere on the old Kippax was often shit.

why on earth would it be difficult to implement at the Etihad?

Don't get this either, the average person's head will be the same height above the row in front as it is now or the same height as the row in front if each step takes more than one row. Kids and smaller adults may be at a disadvantage though.

 

[noely]

I'd welcome safe standing I really would although I think it might be quite difficult to implement at the Etihad due to the angle of the terracing/concrete. However we can bang this drum as much as we want. Until we have a huge change in the law it isn't going to happen. And lets not look at it through rose tinted specks. The atmosphere on the old Kippax was often shit.

why on earth would it be difficult to implement at the Etihad?

Don't get this either, the average person's head will be the same height above the row in front as it is now or the same height as the row in front if each step takes more than one row. Kids and smaller adults may be at a disadvantage though.

will be the same for a small adult or child when sat down too as the person in front is sat in front so just the same disadvantage to being a small adult or child stood up

 

[SteWadda]

why on earth would it be difficult to implement at the Etihad?

Don't get this either, the average person's head will be the same height above the row in front as it is now or the same height as the row in front if each step takes more than one row. Kids and smaller adults may be at a disadvantage though.

will be the same for a small adult or child when sat down too as the person in front is sat in front so just the same disadvantage to being a small adult or child stood up

It's not the same because you don't have to take the length of the tall persons legs in to account when they are sat down. Everyones waist is the same height off the floor when they are sat on a seat the same height.

 

[Manchester33]

Let's not get hung up on the length of peoples legs. The fact of the matter is they would have the choice! If you're 4 ft 10, then you would probably choose to sit rather then stand. But they wouldn't be stopped from standing, it would be THEIR choice. Let the little people make up their own mind! :P

 

[The_Maverick]

If it doesn't make a difference how would you feel stood behind me. I'm 6' 8" and 17 stone.

 

[Manchester33]

If it doesn't make a difference how would you feel stood behind me. I'm 6' 8" and 17 stone.

Well I probably wouldn't say much.


Anyway, it's a stupid argument. If you were sat in front of someone who was less than 5ft tall there would be the same problem again, so it's pointless to say it's a downfall of standing.

 

[SteWadda]

If it doesn't make a difference how would you feel stood behind me. I'm 6' 8" and 17 stone.

Well I probably wouldn't say much.


Anyway, it's a stupid argument. If you were sat in front of someone who was less than 5ft tall there would be the same problem again, so it's pointless to say it's a downfall of standing.

Your forgetting about legs again. We stand in the south stand my lads have to stand on their seats to see, when we get moved for cup games they can see perfectly fine sat down.

 

[samrmcfc]

If anyone is missing the point it is you 'stewadda'

The simple fact is the majority of the stadium will still stay seated even if it is implemented. If it were to be implemented within the stadium it would be in the south stand and the corner blocks of 111 etc (at least that would the logical thing to do) so this would mean the people who already stand would still be standing making no difference to their match day experience apart from making it safer for them (something to hold onto when we score or something to lean on when the effects of the alcohol start to take their toll)

The length of someones legs is irrelevant.

Also i get the feeling you may be 5 ft 5 and have something against people who are taller than you ;)

 

[SteWadda]

If anyone is missing the point it is you 'stewadda'

The simple fact is the majority of the stadium will still stay seated even if it is implemented. If it were to be implemented within the stadium it would be in the south stand and the corner blocks of 111 etc (at least that would the logical thing to do) so this would mean the people who already stand would still be standing making no difference to their match day experience apart from making it safer for them (something to hold onto when we score or something to lean on when the effects of the alcohol start to take their toll)

The length of someones legs is irrelevant.

Also i get the feeling you may be 5 ft 5 and have something against people who are taller than you ;)

I'm 5 ft 9 and have nothing against taller people. I'm just pointing out there is a difference between a small person sitting behind a tall person and a small person standing behind a tall person. Which keeps being said there is no difference when clearly there is because people keep forgetting about legs. No one was arguing it wouldn't matter because everyone in them areas stand anyway.
I'm all for safe standing like I said we already stand in the south stand and presume the kids will be able to stand on the seats that have been folded away.

 

[samrmcfc]

If anyone is missing the point it is you 'stewadda'

The simple fact is the majority of the stadium will still stay seated even if it is implemented. If it were to be implemented within the stadium it would be in the south stand and the corner blocks of 111 etc (at least that would the logical thing to do) so this would mean the people who already stand would still be standing making no difference to their match day experience apart from making it safer for them (something to hold onto when we score or something to lean on when the effects of the alcohol start to take their toll)

The length of someones legs is irrelevant.

Also i get the feeling you may be 5 ft 5 and have something against people who are taller than you ;)

I'm 5 ft 9 and have nothing against taller people. I'm just pointing out there is a difference between a small person sitting behind a tall person and a small person standing behind a tall person. Which keeps being said there is no difference when clearly there is because people keep forgetting about legs. No one was arguing it wouldn't matter because everyone in them areas stand anyway.
I'm all for safe standing like I said we already stand in the south stand and presume the kids will be able to stand on the seats that have been folded away.

i dont think people are forgetting about legs i just dont think anyone cares.

you never know someone might have short legs and a long body and long neck. Then your leg theory has fell flat on its arse.

im pretty sure the discussion is about safestanding and not about people with abnormaly long legs anyway.