mrtwiceaseason said:Posted on this thread hours ago and still havnt seen one reason why standing would improve the atmosphere. The only thing I can think is it would attract the younger element and by creating a youff stand might be a bit noiseier .but would probably end up blue on blue with the ale money they saved like a lot of our always do.
In favour of it if people want it but don't get the atmosphere bit .maybe the two sides of the
Southstand could sing the same songs at the same time for starters. ?
Wouldn't laugh at anyone having a go at their ideals.BUT would question what exactly was so great in the era that they want to take us back too ?,mancityvstoke said:Corky said:mancityvstoke said:Moving is not necessarily more expensive when expansion is completed.
If you have a complaint you should take it up with the club not people on bluemoon as we cannot control what fans do. Believe it or not most are trying to help.
Better still go down to the bottom of the block and shout "hey you lot, new fuckers, sit the fuck down, c**ts"
then "where were you when we were shit and sitting down?"
Better still start a fans group like 1894 after just getting a season ticket and demand meeting with UEFA via twitter. Got to laugh.
Laugh at what?
Not sure if thats true .not sure what every other clubs policy is to persistent standing ? As all prem grounds are all seated ?.which grounds have this super atmosphere ? Have read on rawk / rag cafe no atmosphere there .no atmosphere in the holte end .Stoke seems to be dying off .that leaves crystal palace that's regually mentionedCheadle_hulmeBlue said:mrtwiceaseason said:Posted on this thread hours ago and still havnt seen one reason why standing would improve the atmosphere. The only thing I can think is it would attract the younger element and by creating a youff stand might be a bit noiseier .but would probably end up blue on blue with the ale money they saved like a lot of our always do.
In favour of it if people want it but don't get the atmosphere bit .maybe the two sides of the
Southstand could sing the same songs at the same time for starters. ?
you've kind of answered your own question there. You only have to look at every loud singing part of every ground in the country, its usually the standing bit. People who sit dont sing as much, dojnt know why, but that is the case in football, music gigs, lots of things tbh.
Carver said:Blue Note said:100% sure a standing unreserved stand would be the answer to our atmosphere problems. Also it would mean people who wanna stand are separated from those who wanna sit. Win win situation.
This is nearly Bob on. It would go a long way to sorting the atmosphere if people had to come in early to get their preferred standing spot with their mates rather than staying in the bar till the last moment / up to 10 min into the game.
if some prick stands up at the front and wont sit down then it has a knock on effect all the way up the stand .... get a gripftg said:mekonmcfc said:mancityvstoke said:Persistent standing has been going on years (since we moved to the new stadium and before at Maine Road for the North Stand and AA lower)...have you considered moving to a seated part of the ground at all? Just asking. For example the second tier which isn't that much more expensive in the south stand.
Perhaps ground expansion will sort all these issues out once and for all if the club get a grip of the issue properly.
i like where i sit i have sat there for years, and its only this season that standing has been coming round to my part of the south stand. I should not have to relocate because of the selfishness of others in an all seater stadium. Me moving seats is NOT the answer
How selfish can you get. If standing has come round to your section then it seems the majority of people around you want to stand up - if it was just one or two that did it and everyone else was against they would get told to sit back down. So instead of moving to another section where you can sit down all you like, with a *slightly* different view, you'd rather force hundreds of people to sit down to keep you happy. All because of a seat that you have no real ownership of. Get a grip.
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:i agree with what your doing, But I believe its pricing that is the biggest effect on atmosphere. young lads like me, in the 18- 25 bracket can't afford to go, its just to expensive for this group of fans. Safe standing will hopefully bring these fans together but only if its unallocated and low priced.
We are missing the local young lads that used to make the atmosphere, now the only people in the main that can afford to go are middle aged men. theres no where in the ground for people that age like there used to be, safe standing areas will help this. You only have to look at some of the away day videos to see how old our fan base is at the minute, the young vocal support is there. Focus on lowering price and it will get better imo
mekonmcfc said:if some prick stands up at the front and wont sit down then it has a knock on effect all the way up the stand .... get a gripftg said:mekonmcfc said:i like where i sit i have sat there for years, and its only this season that standing has been coming round to my part of the south stand. I should not have to relocate because of the selfishness of others in an all seater stadium. Me moving seats is NOT the answer
How selfish can you get. If standing has come round to your section then it seems the majority of people around you want to stand up - if it was just one or two that did it and everyone else was against they would get told to sit back down. So instead of moving to another section where you can sit down all you like, with a *slightly* different view, you'd rather force hundreds of people to sit down to keep you happy. All because of a seat that you have no real ownership of. Get a grip.
furthermore the majority of people that sit near the back have had their season tickets for many many years going back to Maine road where everyone was sat down !! some new kids come along and think its great to stand up at the front and piss everyone off.
I'm gonna side with mekon here .if he has paid his £50 to have a nice seat with his mates with a good view then thats exactly what he should get .why should some fuckwitt at the front spoil it by making the whole stand .stand up ?eversince 76 said:mekonmcfc said:if some prick stands up at the front and wont sit down then it has a knock on effect all the way up the stand .... get a gripftg said:How selfish can you get. If standing has come round to your section then it seems the majority of people around you want to stand up - if it was just one or two that did it and everyone else was against they would get told to sit back down. So instead of moving to another section where you can sit down all you like, with a *slightly* different view, you'd rather force hundreds of people to sit down to keep you happy. All because of a seat that you have no real ownership of. Get a grip.
furthermore the majority of people that sit near the back have had their season tickets for many many years going back to Maine road where everyone was sat down !! some new kids come along and think its great to stand up at the front and piss everyone off.
To get rid of these "new kids" is one of the reasons a lot of fans want a safe standing area. But the way you put it you seem to prefer to hold on to your seat instead of moving it for the good of a safe standing area. That to me sounds weird and selfish.
I'm (unfortunately) live abroad but I would definitely get myself a seasonticket if there was a safe standing area. If I look at the atmosphere in the German stadiums it's much better than in England nowadays. Maybe the atmosphere to be created at Etihad by the safe standing area will get you out of your cosy seat with the spectacular view ...