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Jimma
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Re: De Jong injury to Ben Arfa
sorry if already posted, but our good mate IAN WRIGHT has had his say now
sorry if already posted, but our good mate IAN WRIGHT has had his say now
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NIGEL DE JONG should be banned for the whole time that Hatem Ben Arfa remains on the sidelines.
After watching the Premier League action last weekend, I wonder what has happened to the art of tackling.
And where has this scissor tackle come from? That's the one that saw De Jong break the leg of Newcastle's French star who has only just arrived in this country.
The referee didn't even give a free-kick against the Manchester City player, so he'll be back for their next game.
Unfortunately it will be a long time before Ben Arfa plays again - and we need a punishment that will make players think twice before going into challenges like that.
The FA should bring in a rule banning players for the same time injured players are out.
I've heard it said that De Jong touched the ball, so the referee deemed it was not even worthy of a free-kick. But you can't tell me that just because someone gets the ball it can't be a bad challenge.
I'm amazed Wigan's Jordi Gomez is also not facing a long spell on the treatment table because Karl Henry's tackle on him for Wolves was probably the most reckless I've seen in a long time.
Players need to think about the consequences of what they're doing - otherwise they are going to see the careers of their fellow pros ended.
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Re: De Jong injury to Ben Arfa
Says the man who deliberately went into a tackle to hurt peter schmeichel.
Looks like wrighty has got dimensia.
Jimma said:sorry if already posted, but our good mate IAN WRIGHT has had his say now
IAN WRIGHT - Columnist
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NIGEL DE JONG should be banned for the whole time that Hatem Ben Arfa remains on the sidelines.
After watching the Premier League action last weekend, I wonder what has happened to the art of tackling.
And where has this scissor tackle come from? That's the one that saw De Jong break the leg of Newcastle's French star who has only just arrived in this country.
The referee didn't even give a free-kick against the Manchester City player, so he'll be back for their next game.
Unfortunately it will be a long time before Ben Arfa plays again - and we need a punishment that will make players think twice before going into challenges like that.
The FA should bring in a rule banning players for the same time injured players are out.
I've heard it said that De Jong touched the ball, so the referee deemed it was not even worthy of a free-kick. But you can't tell me that just because someone gets the ball it can't be a bad challenge.
I'm amazed Wigan's Jordi Gomez is also not facing a long spell on the treatment table because Karl Henry's tackle on him for Wolves was probably the most reckless I've seen in a long time.
Players need to think about the consequences of what they're doing - otherwise they are going to see the careers of their fellow pros ended.
Says the man who deliberately went into a tackle to hurt peter schmeichel.
Looks like wrighty has got dimensia.
Re: De Jong injury to Ben Arfa
This from Andy Townsend makes more sense than some of the sensational rubbish I have read in the last couple of days.
'It is a disgrace that Bert van Marwijk has dropped Nigel de Jong from the Holland squad.
There have been lots of tackles worse than De Jong’s on Hatem Ben Arfa this season - his leading leg went straight for the ball. Momentum is what broke Ben Arfa’s leg and that is unfortunate. It is the sort of challenge I have made a thousand times.
He could make that same challenge again all season and he wouldn’t break anyone’s leg. The referee didn’t even stop the game.
I feel sympathy for Ben Arfa, because he has made a good start for Newcastle and has influenced games. De Jong’s tackle was a full-blooded, strong challenge. The ball was there to be won and he wasn’t setting out to break a leg.
It shouldn’t even be mentioned in the same breath as De Jong’s tackle on Xabi Alonso or Karl Henry’s on Jordi Gomez on Saturday.
We have to be careful that we don’t deem every challenge ‘reckless’ when a player is stretching for the ball at speed. We don’t say the same when goalkeepers come out to claim the ball in front of a striker and their momentum brings them down.
The tackle on Ben Arfa was like the Henry one which saw Bobby Zamora break his leg - there was not much wrong with it.
People are condemning De Jong but they need their heads tested. He’s a committed player for City and Holland. He’s there to be physical and competitive and he is brilliant at it. If we take his type of tackling out of Premier League football, we won’t have a product. Are we trying to take tackling out of football?
De Jong is in the Dutch team to tackle - and Van Marwijk is mad to drop him and make an example of him in this way. I can only assume there are other reasons we don’t know about. If I was De Jong, I would refuse to play for Holland again while he is in charge.
The kung-fu tackle De Jong made on Alonso in the World Cup final was reckless and a disgrace. It seriously endangered Alonso and he only got booked.
So why was Van Marwijk not outraged enough by the challenge to substitute him straight away for going against the principles of the beautiful Dutch game? And now all of a sudden he has found a conscience. Is he trying to protect his own reputation?
During the summer, Van Marwijk sent out a team to kick Spain off the pitch. He thought he would come home to an open-top bus ride after South Africa but instead he came back to a load of criticism about his team’s physical approach. So now he’s made De Jong a scapegoat.
And why is De Jong dropped and Mark van Bommel not? Van Bommel made more cynical challenges in the World Cup than anyone else - and Van Marwijk didn’t do anything about that. I hope it has nothing to do with him being married to Van Marwijk’s daughter.'
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This from Andy Townsend makes more sense than some of the sensational rubbish I have read in the last couple of days.
'It is a disgrace that Bert van Marwijk has dropped Nigel de Jong from the Holland squad.
There have been lots of tackles worse than De Jong’s on Hatem Ben Arfa this season - his leading leg went straight for the ball. Momentum is what broke Ben Arfa’s leg and that is unfortunate. It is the sort of challenge I have made a thousand times.
He could make that same challenge again all season and he wouldn’t break anyone’s leg. The referee didn’t even stop the game.
I feel sympathy for Ben Arfa, because he has made a good start for Newcastle and has influenced games. De Jong’s tackle was a full-blooded, strong challenge. The ball was there to be won and he wasn’t setting out to break a leg.
It shouldn’t even be mentioned in the same breath as De Jong’s tackle on Xabi Alonso or Karl Henry’s on Jordi Gomez on Saturday.
We have to be careful that we don’t deem every challenge ‘reckless’ when a player is stretching for the ball at speed. We don’t say the same when goalkeepers come out to claim the ball in front of a striker and their momentum brings them down.
The tackle on Ben Arfa was like the Henry one which saw Bobby Zamora break his leg - there was not much wrong with it.
People are condemning De Jong but they need their heads tested. He’s a committed player for City and Holland. He’s there to be physical and competitive and he is brilliant at it. If we take his type of tackling out of Premier League football, we won’t have a product. Are we trying to take tackling out of football?
De Jong is in the Dutch team to tackle - and Van Marwijk is mad to drop him and make an example of him in this way. I can only assume there are other reasons we don’t know about. If I was De Jong, I would refuse to play for Holland again while he is in charge.
The kung-fu tackle De Jong made on Alonso in the World Cup final was reckless and a disgrace. It seriously endangered Alonso and he only got booked.
So why was Van Marwijk not outraged enough by the challenge to substitute him straight away for going against the principles of the beautiful Dutch game? And now all of a sudden he has found a conscience. Is he trying to protect his own reputation?
During the summer, Van Marwijk sent out a team to kick Spain off the pitch. He thought he would come home to an open-top bus ride after South Africa but instead he came back to a load of criticism about his team’s physical approach. So now he’s made De Jong a scapegoat.
And why is De Jong dropped and Mark van Bommel not? Van Bommel made more cynical challenges in the World Cup than anyone else - and Van Marwijk didn’t do anything about that. I hope it has nothing to do with him being married to Van Marwijk’s daughter.'
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Re: De Jong injury to Ben Arfa
One thing you can always rely on Shauny's dad for is talking absolute bollocks. He's bizarrely managed to make quite a career out of it.Jimma said:sorry if already posted, but our good mate IAN WRIGHT has had his say now
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NIGEL DE JONG should be banned for the whole time that Hatem Ben Arfa remains on the sidelines.
After watching the Premier League action last weekend, I wonder what has happened to the art of tackling.
And where has this scissor tackle come from? That's the one that saw De Jong break the leg of Newcastle's French star who has only just arrived in this country.
The referee didn't even give a free-kick against the Manchester City player, so he'll be back for their next game.
Unfortunately it will be a long time before Ben Arfa plays again - and we need a punishment that will make players think twice before going into challenges like that.
The FA should bring in a rule banning players for the same time injured players are out.
I've heard it said that De Jong touched the ball, so the referee deemed it was not even worthy of a free-kick. But you can't tell me that just because someone gets the ball it can't be a bad challenge.
I'm amazed Wigan's Jordi Gomez is also not facing a long spell on the treatment table because Karl Henry's tackle on him for Wolves was probably the most reckless I've seen in a long time.
Players need to think about the consequences of what they're doing - otherwise they are going to see the careers of their fellow pros ended.
City Raider
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Re: De Jong injury to Ben Arfa
Brilliant - and Alan Brazil sticking up for him too this morn
Nocle said:This from Andy Townsend makes more sense than some of the sensational rubbish I have read in the last couple of days.
'It is a disgrace that Bert van Marwijk has dropped Nigel de Jong from the Holland squad.
There have been lots of tackles worse than De Jong’s on Hatem Ben Arfa this season - his leading leg went straight for the ball. Momentum is what broke Ben Arfa’s leg and that is unfortunate. It is the sort of challenge I have made a thousand times.
He could make that same challenge again all season and he wouldn’t break anyone’s leg. The referee didn’t even stop the game.
I feel sympathy for Ben Arfa, because he has made a good start for Newcastle and has influenced games. De Jong’s tackle was a full-blooded, strong challenge. The ball was there to be won and he wasn’t setting out to break a leg.
It shouldn’t even be mentioned in the same breath as De Jong’s tackle on Xabi Alonso or Karl Henry’s on Jordi Gomez on Saturday.
We have to be careful that we don’t deem every challenge ‘reckless’ when a player is stretching for the ball at speed. We don’t say the same when goalkeepers come out to claim the ball in front of a striker and their momentum brings them down.
The tackle on Ben Arfa was like the Henry one which saw Bobby Zamora break his leg - there was not much wrong with it.
People are condemning De Jong but they need their heads tested. He’s a committed player for City and Holland. He’s there to be physical and competitive and he is brilliant at it. If we take his type of tackling out of Premier League football, we won’t have a product. Are we trying to take tackling out of football?
De Jong is in the Dutch team to tackle - and Van Marwijk is mad to drop him and make an example of him in this way. I can only assume there are other reasons we don’t know about. If I was De Jong, I would refuse to play for Holland again while he is in charge.
The kung-fu tackle De Jong made on Alonso in the World Cup final was reckless and a disgrace. It seriously endangered Alonso and he only got booked.
So why was Van Marwijk not outraged enough by the challenge to substitute him straight away for going against the principles of the beautiful Dutch game? And now all of a sudden he has found a conscience. Is he trying to protect his own reputation?
During the summer, Van Marwijk sent out a team to kick Spain off the pitch. He thought he would come home to an open-top bus ride after South Africa but instead he came back to a load of criticism about his team’s physical approach. So now he’s made De Jong a scapegoat.
And why is De Jong dropped and Mark van Bommel not? Van Bommel made more cynical challenges in the World Cup than anyone else - and Van Marwijk didn’t do anything about that. I hope it has nothing to do with him being married to Van Marwijk’s daughter.'
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1318056/Andy-Townsends-insight-Bert-van-Marwijks-disgrace-dropping-De-Jong.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... -Jong.html</a>?
Brilliant - and Alan Brazil sticking up for him too this morn
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Re: De Jong injury to Ben Arfa
So SWP's contract talks have not gone well then?
Jimma said:sorry if already posted, but our good mate IAN WRIGHT has had his say now
IAN WRIGHT - Columnist
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Published: Today
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NIGEL DE JONG should be banned for the whole time that Hatem Ben Arfa remains on the sidelines.
After watching the Premier League action last weekend, I wonder what has happened to the art of tackling.
And where has this scissor tackle come from? That's the one that saw De Jong break the leg of Newcastle's French star who has only just arrived in this country.
The referee didn't even give a free-kick against the Manchester City player, so he'll be back for their next game.
Unfortunately it will be a long time before Ben Arfa plays again - and we need a punishment that will make players think twice before going into challenges like that.
The FA should bring in a rule banning players for the same time injured players are out.
I've heard it said that De Jong touched the ball, so the referee deemed it was not even worthy of a free-kick. But you can't tell me that just because someone gets the ball it can't be a bad challenge.
I'm amazed Wigan's Jordi Gomez is also not facing a long spell on the treatment table because Karl Henry's tackle on him for Wolves was probably the most reckless I've seen in a long time.
Players need to think about the consequences of what they're doing - otherwise they are going to see the careers of their fellow pros ended.
So SWP's contract talks have not gone well then?
Matty
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Re: De Jong injury to Ben Arfa
Andy Townsend talking perfect sense. Isn't that one of the precursors of the apocalypse?
Nocle said:This from Andy Townsend makes more sense than some of the sensational rubbish I have read in the last couple of days.
'It is a disgrace that Bert van Marwijk has dropped Nigel de Jong from the Holland squad.
There have been lots of tackles worse than De Jong’s on Hatem Ben Arfa this season - his leading leg went straight for the ball. Momentum is what broke Ben Arfa’s leg and that is unfortunate. It is the sort of challenge I have made a thousand times.
He could make that same challenge again all season and he wouldn’t break anyone’s leg. The referee didn’t even stop the game.
I feel sympathy for Ben Arfa, because he has made a good start for Newcastle and has influenced games. De Jong’s tackle was a full-blooded, strong challenge. The ball was there to be won and he wasn’t setting out to break a leg.
It shouldn’t even be mentioned in the same breath as De Jong’s tackle on Xabi Alonso or Karl Henry’s on Jordi Gomez on Saturday.
We have to be careful that we don’t deem every challenge ‘reckless’ when a player is stretching for the ball at speed. We don’t say the same when goalkeepers come out to claim the ball in front of a striker and their momentum brings them down.
The tackle on Ben Arfa was like the Henry one which saw Bobby Zamora break his leg - there was not much wrong with it.
People are condemning De Jong but they need their heads tested. He’s a committed player for City and Holland. He’s there to be physical and competitive and he is brilliant at it. If we take his type of tackling out of Premier League football, we won’t have a product. Are we trying to take tackling out of football?
De Jong is in the Dutch team to tackle - and Van Marwijk is mad to drop him and make an example of him in this way. I can only assume there are other reasons we don’t know about. If I was De Jong, I would refuse to play for Holland again while he is in charge.
The kung-fu tackle De Jong made on Alonso in the World Cup final was reckless and a disgrace. It seriously endangered Alonso and he only got booked.
So why was Van Marwijk not outraged enough by the challenge to substitute him straight away for going against the principles of the beautiful Dutch game? And now all of a sudden he has found a conscience. Is he trying to protect his own reputation?
During the summer, Van Marwijk sent out a team to kick Spain off the pitch. He thought he would come home to an open-top bus ride after South Africa but instead he came back to a load of criticism about his team’s physical approach. So now he’s made De Jong a scapegoat.
And why is De Jong dropped and Mark van Bommel not? Van Bommel made more cynical challenges in the World Cup than anyone else - and Van Marwijk didn’t do anything about that. I hope it has nothing to do with him being married to Van Marwijk’s daughter.'
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1318056/Andy-Townsends-insight-Bert-van-Marwijks-disgrace-dropping-De-Jong.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... -Jong.html</a>?
Andy Townsend talking perfect sense. Isn't that one of the precursors of the apocalypse?
Bluemoon115
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Re: De Jong injury to Ben Arfa
It's already half a story, in a couple of days, no-one will care.
This dipper takeover has come at quite the perfect time for us :)
It's already half a story, in a couple of days, no-one will care.
This dipper takeover has come at quite the perfect time for us :)
Kakhaber Tskhadadze K.O.T.A.
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Re: De Jong injury to Ben Arfa
totally agree, the lazy sports journo's will now be plagiarising from Financial Times instead.
Bluemoon115 said:It's already half a story, in a couple of days, no-one will care.
This dipper takeover has come at quite the perfect time for us :)
totally agree, the lazy sports journo's will now be plagiarising from Financial Times instead.