194.5m losses 2010/2011

mancunial said:
Sky sports have just had David bicks sports finance expert telling the presenter what he doesn't want to hear, saying city are being very shrewd and stating that our beloved sheik what a really brilliant business man he is, to the extent they swiftly moved to their get out clause advertisements?

This has really pissed off the Sky reds, especially when Tom Cannon agrees with David Bicks. A lot of the blame seems to fall at agent Hughes feet with his crap buys, clear that lot out and we're cooking with gas!
 
to add some more flavour ..a few classic point of views from Swamp Cafe


I think that, besides for the bolded point, a London club (probably Spurs) would have been a better choice.

Bear in mind Mansour (iirc) specialises in property development, I think the choice was fairly obvious.

Ouch. It's not like it will hurt them though, their owner is more than capable of taking a hit like that. They've built their squad and achieved Champions League football now, so I'm assuming that they'll scale back their expenditure (they have to really, with FFR).

Despite the losses Manchester City should be fine from the FFP. Unlike us, City don't have a large amount of corporate sponsors, but what they can and probably will do, is instead of seeking out these sponsorship deals, they will just create them using the Sheiks friends as the sponsors. For example, our huge DHL warm-up kit deal can be replicated, for more money.

I honestly don't think UEFA will care how a team went about complying with the FFP regulations, as long as they do comply. If they really cared, UEFA would of said something when Manchester City sold the name for the stadium and were paid 300 million more than Arsenal, who are in fact a bigger brand name than Man City.

City have 3.3m fans? Give over. More like 30,000. If they win the next couple of leagues i.e. Chelsea, it will rise to 1m at most., and thats if they're lucky.

I agree Newcastle might have been an option. But City was the obvious choice.

Dominated by much more famous neighbours with Manchester in the name - check
Decent new stadium - check
Plenty of opportunity for development of the surrounding area - check
Good international airport - check
Old club with decent and crucially, ancient history of success - check
Turning City around after 35 years of failure would send biggest message about shifting world economic power and profile of Abu Dhabi - check

There would have been zero point in buying an already successful club, and I don't think any of the other "underperforming" clubs offered the same combination of <cough> "qualities" City had to offer.

City were a sugar-daddy-takeover waiting to happen really. We got majorly lucky in who it turned out to be taking us over though.

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i am so excited to see these morons cant digest our financial muscle in their discussions
 
Rammy Blue said:
What happens when we spunk £150mil buying Messi?

;-)

Wont bother any of them as he is clearly not in the same league as Phil "the next Duncan Edwards" Jones ;-)
 
blueinsa said:
Rammy Blue said:
What happens when we spunk £150mil buying Messi?

;-)

Wont bother any of them as he is clearly not in the same league as Phil "the next Duncan Edwards" Jones ;-)


Hey or Tom "Messi" Cleverley!!!!

What a rush I get being a blue....Seriously fucking orgasmic...

"The Courteeners"-Take over the world - Is how I feel about our beloved MCFC.
 
babua_blue said:
to add some more flavour ..a few classic point of views from Swamp Cafe


I think that, besides for the bolded point, a London club (probably Spurs) would have been a better choice.

Bear in mind Mansour (iirc) specialises in property development, I think the choice was fairly obvious.

Ouch. It's not like it will hurt them though, their owner is more than capable of taking a hit like that. They've built their squad and achieved Champions League football now, so I'm assuming that they'll scale back their expenditure (they have to really, with FFR).

Despite the losses Manchester City should be fine from the FFP. Unlike us, City don't have a large amount of corporate sponsors, but what they can and probably will do, is instead of seeking out these sponsorship deals, they will just create them using the Sheiks friends as the sponsors. For example, our huge DHL warm-up kit deal can be replicated, for more money.

I honestly don't think UEFA will care how a team went about complying with the FFP regulations, as long as they do comply. If they really cared, UEFA would of said something when Manchester City sold the name for the stadium and were paid 300 million more than Arsenal, who are in fact a bigger brand name than Man City.

City have 3.3m fans? Give over. More like 30,000. If they win the next couple of leagues i.e. Chelsea, it will rise to 1m at most., and thats if they're lucky.

I agree Newcastle might have been an option. But City was the obvious choice.

Dominated by much more famous neighbours with Manchester in the name - check
Decent new stadium - check
Plenty of opportunity for development of the surrounding area - check
Good international airport - check
Old club with decent and crucially, ancient history of success - check
Turning City around after 35 years of failure would send biggest message about shifting world economic power and profile of Abu Dhabi - check

There would have been zero point in buying an already successful club, and I don't think any of the other "underperforming" clubs offered the same combination of <cough> "qualities" City had to offer.

City were a sugar-daddy-takeover waiting to happen really. We got majorly lucky in who it turned out to be taking us over though.

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i am so excited to see these morons cant digest our financial muscle in their discussions

I think you are wrong, calling them morons. The author of that piece has made some very salient points and it is, without doubt well written and researched. It does, as always have the flavour of Rag entitlement culture absorbed within it, plus the fact that the author is talking purile shite gleaned from their archives of arrogance and is yet another forgettable diatribe of desperation sounding bilge.
 
There is a light said:
The Billionaire club is a live studio debate on SSN on Monday night to discuss the FFP legislation. The live guests are Christian Purslow and Ivan Gazidis.

I'm sure that will be a completely balanced debate and in no way biased towards City.

Think you mean "in no way biased AGAINST City" ?
 
I might be overtly optimistic but I am going to stick my neck on the line with the following statement:

Next financial year (or perhaps the year after), we wont simply comply with FFP, we will blow people away with our profits.

I'm not a financial expert, but when you factor everything in: Champions League money, increases in TV rights, increase in commercial sponsorship (including the deal with Etihad), increase in fan-base and gate receipts, increase in operations oversees. Then on top of that, decrease in player amortisation, decrease in wages, decrease in Carlos Tevez.

Not to mention these guys are shrewd accountants, and so any other cost that may have otherwise been spread over the course of the next 2 or 3 years will have all been put into last years and this years figures. The Sheikh and his people have done exactly what everybody else in the history of football seems to have failed at, in the long term they are turning us not only into a global power house, but a profitable business.

I think when you add all these things together, we should be looking at the start of recouping the investment within a couple of years. By 2020, I actually think it's possible that the Sheikh will have is money back.
 
Still have to look at increasing revenue streams. This might include having a different sponsor on the training kits. Seeing if it is possible to have some other sponsor of the new ground for the 2nd team.

Maybe the best may of increasing revenue streams is to buy a kit manufacture and do it for ourselves, thus eliminating the midddleman.
 

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