1986 youth team

Mad Eyed Screamer said:
Can I just jump right in and say that myself and a friend have written a book called ''Teenage Kicks'' that will be out (hopefully) around Easter that is the definitive story of the 1986 FA Youth Cup winning team.

Starting in October in 1983, when Moulden, Scott and White make their A team debuts against UMIST and ending in March 1998, when Ian Brightwell plays his last game for City in the reserves against Huddersfield, the book covers the City career of each of the 14 players who featured in the 9 games City played to lift the cup - and follows their after City career right up to what they are doing today.
We tracked down all of the 13 surviving players (with email interviews as far and wide as South Africa, New Jersey and Dublin!) and the family of the player who tragically died of cancer a few years ago, who all contributed so much towards the book.
Paul Power has written a foreword for the book :)

We will be plugging the book a little nearer it's time of being available in the shops :)

For the record, the team names given in the original post had the name of the 12 players on duty for the 1st leg final at Old Trafford.

John Bookbinder was the sub for the 2nd leg and Steve Macauley (now assistant manager / coach at Fleetwood Town) reveals in the book why - thanks to Garry Birtles - he wasn't sub for the 2nd leg!!)
John Clarke was the sub for the first 6 games in the competition.
sounds good MES. Can you inbox me when this is out. You and my dad are the same era so he would appreciate this. Especially written by you.
 
mscenterh750 said:
Now then, seen as Mancini is starting to give some of the youth lads a game here and there, I've been thinking how many of the youth cup winning team from 86, would be good enough to hold down a regular place in the current side, for me the core of that team which was Hinchcliffe, Redmond, Brightwell, Lake, White, Moulden and Scott, at least 4 would get in the current team.

The full 12 is :

1. Crompton
2. Millis
3. Hinchcliffe
4. Brightwell
5. Redmond
6. Thackeray
7. White
8. Moulden
9. Lake
10. Scott
11. Boyd
12. Macauley

Have a look and decide who you think would be good enough.

White; the fastest player I've seen only Bale comes close. He easily replaces Sinclair

Lake: nuff said would easily at least be a squad player in this current team.

Hinchcliffe; One of the best left pegs I've seen seen. The last decent corner taker we've had. went on to be an England International, we sold him for a load of brass to Everton, easily a squad player at least in this current squad.

I still think Redmond could be a squad player but I think I may be looking through blue tinted glasses on that one.
 
Only player who would get anywhere near the current city team may be Paul lake. Most of the others did not do very much over their whole careers twenty years ago when the standard was much much lower. If you watch old clips of the first division the, looks like a conference game now
 
andy1971 said:
Only player who would get anywhere near the current city team may be Paul lake. Most of the others did not do very much over their whole careers twenty years ago when the standard was much much lower. If you watch old clips of the first division the, looks like a conference game now
Lakey would definatelly get in.pure class.and hinchcliffe would be very close.wouldnt like to call with him and clichy.
 
That team will always have a big place in everyone's heart who was around at the time. Mainly due to it been the only thing we had to get excited about for about 20 years. The crowd at that 2nd leg wil never be known, due to thousands been let in for free when they opened the exits to get everyone in but even the official number of 18,000 was more than we were getting for a lot of first team games at the time.

As for the actual question. It really is impossible to compare eras with any certainty. Maybe an easier question to answer would be how many of that team could of got near the dominant English team of the time, Liverpool. We all like to think Lake would of done. But no matter how many people say he would have been a future England captain, the fact is we will never know how good he could have been. Although there were 10 years between his first and last games, his career in effect was over after three seasons and told us nothing more than that he was a very promising prospect. As for the rest, as much as I loved White and Brightwell, the fact that playing in a very average City side was the pinnacle of their careers, I think answers the question.

It could be argued that the side that lost the '89 final to Watford, collectively achieved more in their careers than the side that won it. I went to both legs of that final and we outplayed them in both games and lost due almost entirely to a one man show from their 'keeper, David James.
 
That book sounds tremendous and i will certainly get it, any more details normally with books by Gray James we get plenty of tasters and pics in advance. I remember as a very young Kid watching the Youth semi against Villa in the late 70s but i'm sad to say i didn't got to the '86 Final, shame on me.
 
philiph20 said:
That book sounds tremendous and i will certainly get it, any more details normally with books by Gray James we get plenty of tasters and pics in advance. I remember as a very young Kid watching the Youth semi against Villa in the late 70s but i'm sad to say i didn't got to the '86 Final, shame on me.

Oh go on then, seeing as you asked nicely ;)
This snippet is from the 1983 / 84 season. I'll try and get a few pics up, but need the wife to do all that stuff....

20th March. Just as they made their 'A' team debuts together five months previously, both Ian Scott and David White became the first two of the Class of 86 to play for the reserves - Scott started the game and White came off the bench in the 2-0 (Wilson, Simpson) home win against Chesterfield.
The call up came as a complete surprise to White, who two hours before the kick-off, recalls he was playing in a school game!
David White: ''This was all quite bizarre. I was playing in a house game on the school fields at about 4.30pm. I was also 'managing' the team as my house (Lincoln) only had one teacher keen enough on football to stay behind, so he was looking after a different age group on another pitch. Now my dad watched every game I played wherever it was when it came to City games and Salford Boys - but he had to draw the line at school games. Suddenly, he appears on the side-lines beckoning me over to him. When there was a break in play, I ran over to him and he told me I was wanted at Maine Road for the reserves that night! I couldn’t believe my ears and I had to sub myself there and then and leave prompto! The reserve games kicked off at 6.45pm, so we just about had enough time to get over to report by 5.30pm deadline. I was sub and remember getting on later in the game, which was a massive honour.''
 
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