tidyman said:It could be argued that the side that lost the '89 final to Watford, collectively achieved more in their careers than the side that won it. I went to both legs of that final and we outplayed them in both games and lost due almost entirely to a one man show from their 'keeper, David James.
big blueballs said:Lake possibly you must be joking....he would have walked into our team now, the only player I can think of in football never mind only City who could play and did play in every position on the pitch and play as if he had played there all his life, there is no doubt but for injury he would have played regular for and even captained England and would of no doubt moved for a British transfer record to whom ever, they all wanted him Liverpool who were the top team then, the Rags, Arsenal, Spurs, Everton the lotLavinda Past said:IMO only Andy Hinchcliffe would get in the current squad, but would soon be on his way at the expense of Karim Rekik.
Lakey & Whitey possibly... but only because they're English.
Peter Reid was on that fantasy football show on Sky with Fenners and Merson, he was asked to pick his all time greatest team of players he played with, bear in mind that Peter Reid won the league, European Cup Winners Cup, FA Cup etc with Everton, he played for England so has played with some top players, he picked Lakey in his all time 11 at Centre Half and said he could of actually put him in anywhere in the outfield players he was that good he said he would have been one of the greatest players this country has produced but for his injury,
this for me sums up how good Lakey was especially as Reid will have only played with him for a short period of his own career, so those who don't think he would be good enough for the current team obviously are to young to remember or something
SaddleworthBlueRhino said:Tommy Muir had the five signed England U21 shirts, Redmond, White, Hinchliffe, Scott and Lake [captain]. #sigh#
But we have no history... CTID
Remember that match at Maine Rd as a very special memory. Stood on the Kippax watching five of our lads in an England match. No club or country conflict there then!
Lavinda Past said:big blueballs said:Lake possibly you must be joking....he would have walked into our team now, the only player I can think of in football never mind only City who could play and did play in every position on the pitch and play as if he had played there all his life, there is no doubt but for injury he would have played regular for and even captained England and would of no doubt moved for a British transfer record to whom ever, they all wanted him Liverpool who were the top team then, the Rags, Arsenal, Spurs, Everton the lotLavinda Past said:IMO only Andy Hinchcliffe would get in the current squad, but would soon be on his way at the expense of Karim Rekik.
Lakey & Whitey possibly... but only because they're English.
Peter Reid was on that fantasy football show on Sky with Fenners and Merson, he was asked to pick his all time greatest team of players he played with, bear in mind that Peter Reid won the league, European Cup Winners Cup, FA Cup etc with Everton, he played for England so has played with some top players, he picked Lakey in his all time 11 at Centre Half and said he could of actually put him in anywhere in the outfield players he was that good he said he would have been one of the greatest players this country has produced but for his injury,
this for me sums up how good Lakey was especially as Reid will have only played with him for a short period of his own career, so those who don't think he would be good enough for the current team obviously are to young to remember or something
Good points made BBB, but I still think Lakey would struggle to be a first choice in City's current team. He was very special but despite his obvious talent was still very much a 'work in progress' when he got injured. Andy Hinchcliffe was good enough to walk into any top team.
I think we all tend to look at injured player's careers through blue tinted glasses... Lakey was a giant among some good / some average players. Had he stayed fit, I doubt very much we'd have seen him at City for too long.
Having watched the Blues for over 50 years, the only past player I can honestly say I believe would walk into the current first team is Colin Bell.... But all that's history.
We are watching the greatest City squad ever - Enjoy.
BlueDan91 said:http://i48.tinypic.com/2zhi4xe.jpg
Guess who the player is
Mad Eyed Screamer said:tidyman said:It could be argued that the side that lost the '89 final to Watford, collectively achieved more in their careers than the side that won it. I went to both legs of that final and we outplayed them in both games and lost due almost entirely to a one man show from their 'keeper, David James.
For the book, we also made a comparison with the other 5 City teams that reached the youth cup final, in terms of appearances in the first team.
The names in bold are those who played in the 1st team and the number of all appearances (including sub)
1986
Steve Crompton
Steve Mills
Andy Hinchcliffe 139
Ian Brightwell 382
Steve Redmond 287
Andy Thackeray
David White 342
Paul Moulden 79
Paul Lake 134
Ian Scott 34
David Boyd
Sub Steve Macauley (John Bookbinder)
Total appearances 1397
1989
Martyn Margetson 59
Neil Lennon 1
John Wills
Mark Peters
Gerry Taggart 13
Mike Quigley 13
Ian Thompstone 1
Ashley Ward 3
Jason Hasford
Michael Hughes 33
Michael Wallace
Sub Mike Sheron 119
Sub Colin Small
Total appearances = 242
Interestingly the 1989 team had the most City 1st team appearances out of all 6 teams (8, compared to 7 in 1986) - yet the second least number of total appearances! (the least was the 2008 winning team)
I'm not sure collectively the 89 team achieved more than the 86 team. Lennon apart, not much else to big up.....
tidyman said:Mad Eyed Screamer said:tidyman said:It could be argued that the side that lost the '89 final to Watford, collectively achieved more in their careers than the side that won it. I went to both legs of that final and we outplayed them in both games and lost due almost entirely to a one man show from their 'keeper, David James.
For the book, we also made a comparison with the other 5 City teams that reached the youth cup final, in terms of appearances in the first team.
The names in bold are those who played in the 1st team and the number of all appearances (including sub)
1986
Steve Crompton
Steve Mills
Andy Hinchcliffe 139
Ian Brightwell 382
Steve Redmond 287
Andy Thackeray
David White 342
Paul Moulden 79
Paul Lake 134
Ian Scott 34
David Boyd
Sub Steve Macauley (John Bookbinder)
Total appearances 1397
1989
Martyn Margetson 59
Neil Lennon 1
John Wills
Mark Peters
Gerry Taggart 13
Mike Quigley 13
Ian Thompstone 1
Ashley Ward 3
Jason Hasford
Michael Hughes 33
Michael Wallace
Sub Mike Sheron 119
Sub Colin Small
Total appearances = 242
Interestingly the 1989 team had the most City 1st team appearances out of all 6 teams (8, compared to 7 in 1986) - yet the second least number of total appearances! (the least was the 2008 winning team)
I'm not sure collectively the 89 team achieved more than the 86 team. Lennon apart, not much else to big up.....
I wasn't particularly claiming the '89 team achieved more. I was just going off the top of my head and had done no research into it. The only point I was making was that that team never gets a mention despite producing a well above average number of players who went on to have successful careers. Lennon, Warhurst, Ward, Hughes, Taggert, Sheron, all did pretty well for themselves but understandably aren't thought of with the same affection as the '86 players as none of them really did much at City.
kippaxkid74 said:BlueDan91 said:http://i48.tinypic.com/2zhi4xe.jpg
Guess who the player is
Looks like Steve Mills, though i could be wrong!
Sounds like a great book - i loved this team!! :)