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I dunno mate. I've not stayed up all night and am just doing my own analysis now. After my previous (hopeful) comment that I think BIden is still on course to win, I have to say I think I have changed my mind and that earlier comment was mistaken.

Biden is sure to win Nevada, Arizona and Maine... which will take him to 243. But where is he going to get the other 27 from?

Pennsylvania is IMO gone - a 9 point gap is too big, even iwith many votes still to count. Michigan, ditto. Alaska ditto.

That leaves Wisconsin, North Carolina and Georgia as the only places where IMO Biden can pick up votes from. He needs two of the three and yet he's behind in all of them with (in the case of N.C. and Ga.) not many votes left.

It's starting to look to me right now that Trump may have held on. God help us all.

(I have no clue what this situation is with Hawaii and why it is never talked about.)
Pennsylvania is not far from gone.

I grew up in PA. It's a very simple state to understand. Eastern PA has Philly, and western PA has Pittsburgh. Everything else is rural farm and coal country (we called it Pennsyltucky).

What you're seeing right now for PA is in person votes, largely from the rural middle of the state which skews heavily Republican. Philly and Pittsburgh, which are largely democrat, have mostly not been counted yet.

Is that enough to tip the state? Maybe, maybe not. Nobody knows at this point. PA is as much of a tossup as a state can be right now.
 
This is awful.

so at this stage Trump likely to remain president ?
Too early to say, but the polls suggesting a landslide for Biden were either incompetent or corrupt. Worth noting that it's generally the case that a sitting president gets a second term so purely from that point of view it's perhaps no surprise that it is so close or a trump victory.
 
Pennsylvania is IMO gone - a 9 point gap is too big, even iwith many votes still to count.
Virginia looked similar. There are 2m votes still to count and they should heavily favour Biden. Stick CNN on, they keep going through Penn and the counties still to count in great detail.
 
You have to hand it to Trump. According to every news outlet he would not get a second term. The predictions are wrong again. He is ahead in the states that matter and looks to have won.

Same with city, media narrative is biased and one sided as people don’t want to acknowledge he has a huge voting base.
Shit, my stream must be slow. How did Penn and Georgia end?
 
Virginia looked similar. There are 2m votes still to count and they should heavily favour Biden. Stick CNN on, they keep going through Penn and the counties still to count in great detail.

They are so bias though. They were still arguing that Florida was blue about 1am last night when it was clearly lost.
 
If the traditional media are trying to drive a move to the centre, I have to say I don’t think their strategy of telling everyone what to think is working in the US. Social media exacerbates this. Or are they pulling one of those double Clarkies I’ve heard about on here? Don’t know what to believe anymore.
 
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