2020 US Elections

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west didsblue said:
The fact that you take the effort to find the bit where you think he might have misspoken in the sea of vitriolic diarrhoea that comes out of his mouth explains what you're all about. And it's nothing to do with being objective.
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And this laughable irony is what you and others have been focused on; a nanosecond's worth of word to spawn multiple pages.

But you won't see that cos you need to hold your pitchfork up.
 
domalino said:
The problem is that it's been apparent for at least 2 1/2 years that if Trump stays in power for another term, there will never be a change, or a return to normal.

He has already appointed 217 federal judges. Out of 870.

If he is reelected, that number will top 500. And he's appointing 40 year old fundamental right wing christians who are deemed unsuitable by the American Bar Association.

When that happens, there is no path back to normal. Bigga often talks about how much he hates the neolibs, well guess what, all of those judges are the extreme embodiment of Neoliberalism.

If you care at all about consumer rights, women's rights, LGBT rights, the environment, universal healthcare or anything that Mitch McConnell doesn't personally endorse, you would never question how important it is to get Trump out of office.

If he actually cared about the things he rallies against on this forum, he'd have been supporting anyone but running against Trump for years.
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You’re not the first to make that excellent point mate, but I doubt you’ll have any better luck in it hitting the mark.
 
Bigga said:
And now your complete shite is out of the way, any chance anyone wants to focus on #45's direct attack on the '94 Crime Bill and the 'Super Predators' commentary and Biden had no comeback??

No...?

Does that not sit well with the board...??
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Biden never used that word as far as I can see, but Hillary Clinton apparently did and Biden used "predators".

theintercept.com

Joe Biden Supported “Exceptionally, Exceptionally Tough Treatment” for Juvenile “Predators”

In a 1998 address, then-Sen. Joe Biden supported the ability of the court to try “these 100,000 bad kids” in the adult criminal system.
theintercept.com theintercept.com

Trump will recognise Biden's approach as LAW & ORDER (which can be seen on the President's twitter feed daily usually early around 7am ET - bet it'll appear today at some point).

The fallout from the approach taken by Biden is discussed here ... https://reason.com/2020/09/29/trump...cans-superpredators-that-was-hillary-clinton/

However, the popular narrative about the '94 crime bill isn't correct. Fordham Law professor John Pfaff has argued persuasively that, though it was certainly a bad bill, it neither created mass incarceration—which was already chugging along by the 1990s—nor was a significant driver of imprisonment.
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Bigga said:
And this laughable irony is what you and others have been focused on; a nanosecond's worth of word to spawn multiple pages.

But you won't see that cos you need to hold your pitchfork up.
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Talk about fucking projection!

You should get a job working in the back room of a cinema.
 
It's very hard to watch that debate and view it through any neutral lens.

You just wanted Biden to defeat him with policy facts, outline his failings, show him for the liar he is but he resorted to appealing to the lefts core hate filled base message.

I'd say Trump won if only because the things that should of been said weren't said and the rest was just ugly.
 
Bigga said:
Ah now, Doc, he said "Stand by" not "stand back" which is what everyone is freaking out over saying he meant to say it and thus why I said what I said about thinking on his feet and political suicide.

He would have to be genius to find a way of sounding a call to arms to the Pussy Boys through all the gibberish he mostly spoke of, this morning!!

A genius, he is not.
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https://reason.com/2020/09/29/trump...s-instead-tells-them-stand-back-and-stand-by/

Found it. "Stand back and stand by" clear as the nose on my face. Maybe he misspoke and actually meant to say stand down instead which would have rather clearer. He didn't though. I have drawn my own conclusions. This has been reinforced by the response from said proud boys, it has not formed my opinion, merely, as I say, reinforced it.
 
TheRemainsOfTheDave said:
Biden never used that word as far as I can see, but Hillary Clinton apparently did and Biden used "predators".

theintercept.com

Joe Biden Supported “Exceptionally, Exceptionally Tough Treatment” for Juvenile “Predators”

In a 1998 address, then-Sen. Joe Biden supported the ability of the court to try “these 100,000 bad kids” in the adult criminal system.
theintercept.com theintercept.com

Trump will recognise Biden's approach as LAW & ORDER (which can be seen on the President's twitter feed daily usually early around 7am ET - bet it'll appear today at some point).

The fallout from the approach taken by Biden is discussed here ... https://reason.com/2020/09/29/trump...cans-superpredators-that-was-hillary-clinton/
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A) I don't recall Biden denying the usage of that phrase. H emay have, I just don't recall it and anyway, it's semantics to separate 'predators' and 'super predators' at this point.

B) There are many opinions citing that Biden's policy drive contributed to more imprisonment of the lower class(very often not being able to pay for fines) and created a bridgeway to build MORE prisons to contain that increase. I think Pfaff's opinion is flawed based upon this simple assertion, imo.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...-biden-1994-crime-bill-law-mass-incarceration
 
DrBlueBob said:
https://reason.com/2020/09/29/trump...s-instead-tells-them-stand-back-and-stand-by/

Found it. "Stand back and stand by" clear as the nose on my face. Maybe he misspoke and actually meant to say stand down instead which would have rather clearer. He didn't though. I have drawn my own conclusions. This has been reinforced by the response from said proud boys, it has not formed my opinion, merely, as I say, reinforced it.
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Another way of looking at it is that by saying "Stand back and stand down" or even ".. stand by" he has confirmed that he thinks he has the ability (rightly or wrongly) to instruct that group specifically, a connection is now inferred. Politically that is extremely poor for something so important - i.e. untrained militia walking the streets of some US cities. That will come back to haunt him and the dems need to keep pushing on it.
 
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