2020 US Elections

[DrBlueBob]

Another way of looking at it is that by saying "Stand back and stand down" or even ".. stand by" he has confirmed that he thinks he has the ability (rightly or wrongly) to instruct that group specifically, a connection is now inferred. Politically that is extremely poor for something so important - i.e. untrained militia walking the streets of some US cities. That will come back to haunt him and the dems need to keep pushing on it.

Sadly all true. All a little too close to a call to arms for my tastes.

 

[Bigga]

Another way of looking at it is that by saying "Stand back and stand down" or even ".. stand by" he has confirmed that he thinks he has the ability (rightly or wrongly) to instruct that group specifically, a connection is now inferred. Politically that is extremely poor for something so important - i.e. untrained militia walking the streets of some US cities. That will come back to haunt him and the dems need to keep pushing on it.

This I agree with.

He should not have put himself in a position where it looks like they are under his control.

It was foolish in amongst an ocean of further foolish things said.

 

[Dage]

Why is this even close?

 

[mat]

Being impartial, despite many of the group of tools accusations, I think he misspoke.

I think he meant to say "stand back". It doesn't make it any better, but I have to be honest on what I thought about it.

And by the 'acceptable' parameters of the board, it's better to be a 'little bit racist' than 'fully all-the-way-in racist'.

That's how it works with the thread, right...?

If he mis spoke a bunch of one brain called rednecks took it as a call to arms and he doesn’t seem to be rushing to say he did.

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

Another way of looking at it is that by saying "Stand back and stand down" or even ".. stand by" he has confirmed that he thinks he has the ability (rightly or wrongly) to instruct that group specifically, a connection is now inferred. Politically that is extremely poor for something so important - i.e. untrained militia walking the streets of some US cities. That will come back to haunt him and the dems need to keep pushing on it.

Good point

 

[TheRemainsOfTheDave]

A) I don't recall Biden denying the usage of that phrase. H emay have, I just don't recall it and anyway, it's semantics to separate 'predators' and 'super predators' at this point.

B) There are many opinions citing that Biden's policy drive contributed to more imprisonment of the lower class(very often not being able to pay for fines) and created a bridgeway to build MORE prisons to contain that increase. I think Pfaff's opinion is flawed based upon this simple assertion, imo.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...-biden-1994-crime-bill-law-mass-incarceration

It's a complex subject and I only have time to skim read these articles but the chart alone in your linked article appears to suggest that incarceration increased dramatically between 1975 and 1996 and then levelled off around then so there was a significant challenge to the governments in the late eighties and early nineties you would imagine. Your article points out the parts of the bill that have since been lauded and got support from people like Bernie Sanders to allow the bill to pass. These politicians are also, in part guilty, if it is such a bad set of laws, they could have stopped it then could they not.

Unfortunately I don't know enough about the context and etymology of the word predators and super-predators and its relevance to racism from 1994 up to the current day. It's not a word I instantly relate to racism myself but of course in the US it sounds as if it's a much different issue. I am sure it never originally meant to be a derogatory term towards non-white people but at some point it has gained that status and like a lot of things continues to gain new meaning.

 

[mat]

Why is this even close?

Social media is a very powerful tool to influence. It can lie and target the people Trump needs to vote for him.

He wouldn’t be president otherwise.

 

[The perfect fumble]

 

[The perfect fumble]

You’re too smart for inane false equivalencies, and trolling is a bad look.

He posts like a man in desperate need of a shit.

“Old men bad” then, I guess?

Old white man good, old orange man bad.

I'm knocking the T shirts out as we speak.

 

[kaz7]

Polling day in dem states is going to be a blood bath , he is sending the white supremisists (sp) in and federal troops to cause trouble and shut polling stations down , he is doing what all despots do , intimidate people , i hope the dems are strong enough . I am dreading what is nailed on to happen and i really think people will die on polling day , the federal troops will be told to let the his right wing racists do what they like

The moderator was absolute shit , fox news right ? He just let him shout and interupt, be aggressive and act like a bully , just what was the point , bit ironic calling out joes son when him and his son are clearly on drugs , i think they gave him speed for last night

Piece of shit , someone take him out