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You didn't mention, I did and you were responding to that post.

If you want specific responses to specific points, quote that point specifically and there's no need for a broad response.

Or just put your fingers in your ears.

And you don't find me defending #45 on what he had to say about his tenure. I picked out one point, being objective (cos I can be), and thought he misspoke.

What a second of speech I pick out and your vitriol is out of control?!

Laughable.
The fact that you take the effort to find the bit where you think he might have misspoken in the sea of vitriolic diarrhoea that comes out of his mouth explains what you're all about. And it's nothing to do with being objective.
 
He said stand back and stand down. If he misspoke meaning stand down then by that logic he meant to say stand down and stand down which would clearly be mental.

In my opinion he had an opportunity to denounce white supremacists but it would seem that as someone who is not politically suicidal he feels that by obfuscating he furthers his own agenda, ie by tacitly giving the proud boys etc enough fog to interpret his words as a call to arms. Judging by the reaction from said groups and further from his own tweet asking for polling overseers then I would say he has had his desired effect.

As you say we all knew how this would play.

Ah now, Doc, he said "Stand by" not "stand back" which is what everyone is freaking out over saying he meant to say it and thus why I said what I said about thinking on his feet and political suicide.

He would have to be genius to find a way of sounding a call to arms to the Pussy Boys through all the gibberish he mostly spoke of, this morning!!

A genius, he is not.
 
Ah now, Doc, he said "Stand by" not "stand back" which is what everyone is freaking out over saying he meant to say it and thus why I said what I said about thinking on his feet and political suicide.

He would have to be genius to find a way of sounding a call to arms to the Pussy Boys through all the gibberish he mostly spoke of, this morning!!

A genius, he is not.
I will have to try and find it to relisten but when I heard it I believe him to have said both; "Stand by and stand back". Again, judging by the fact the the proud boys have adopted it as a new moniker then I would say that at the very least he was unclear enough to foster doubt and to foment.
 
It sounds like you want someone who isn't a millionaire or part of the system to represent you. It's a nice thought that that could happen but you're in for a long wait. They could go the Cuba route if they wanted, I suppose. I mean Castro was one of the people wasn't he? Once?

Tell me a time a well established millionaire/ billionaire could tell you how much the average person earned or what they dealt with on a monthly basis? Routinely I have seen these kind of people asked questions about average life and they struggle.

A closer connection would be nice for a change.
 
You're fucking insane.

What your saying is "Yeah, sure the Republicans and Trump are ransacking the country, killing people and fucking everything up, but the Democrats didn't break longstanding rules to stop them, so really it's all the same".

No! It's not the fucking same!

You live in this fantasy where there's a 3rd powerful party that'll fix everything and throw out both real parties. That party doesn't exist, and sitting around pretending both parties are as bad as each other is literally something the Republicans have spent billions trying to convince people in order to disenfranchise them.

Alright, so you haven't actually proved that the Dems haven't voted in the same way?

Did the Dems ever have the power to vote in a way that benefited the people they say the Republicans have hurt over the years?

If the voter chose #45, they must have been disenfranchised enough to get him over the line. A happy people wouldn't select a nutjob to lead them or would they??

Again, if must be hard for you to understand that you have to have certain conditions for this to happen but, apparently, I'm insane!!

I thought you were more expansive in your thinking.
 
I will have to try and find it to relisten but when I heard it I believe him to have said both; "Stand by and stand back". Again, judging by the fact the the proud boys have adopted it as a new moniker then I would say that at the very least he was unclear enough to foster doubt and to foment.
It is an instruction to them made directly that they have heeded and acknowledged. It isnt a condemnation, it is a personal request to them to keep quiet for a couple of weeks. It is similar to his direct request to Russia to go and find some emails made in the debate 4 years ago.
 
Tell me a time a well established millionaire/ billionaire could tell you how much the average person earned or what they dealt with on a monthly basis? Routinely I have seen these kind of people asked questions about average life and they struggle.

A closer connection would be nice for a change.
Well Trump's neither of these, ask him.


;)
 
It is an instruction to them made directly that they have heeded and acknowledged. It isnt a condemnation, it is a personal request to them to keep quiet for a couple of weeks. It is similar to his direct request to Russia to go and find some emails made in the debate 4 years ago.
That is most equivocally my viewpoint.
 
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